Here in France we have scanning systems to evaluate how healthy or not food is by scanning the barcode. For example in France we use YUKA. I assume they have the same kind of APP’s in the USA.
Here in France we have scanning systems to evaluate how healthy or not food is by scanning the barcode. For example in France we use YUKA. I assume they have the same kind of APP’s in the USA.
Ghost1 wrote:
Bobo’s Demoor’s go to breakfast food. Looks tasty not sure how healthy though?
https://eatbobos.com/
A billion carbs, like all supposedly "healthy whole grain" foods.
Ghost1 wrote:
Seth Demoor is a famous ultra marathon runner from Denver, Colorado, and he runs 130 miles a week normally. His best marathon time is 2:23:40 from Amsterdam in October 2019.
Breakfast: Bobo’s with butter and a cup of coffee before his morning run. The bobo’s bar contains 14 g of fat, 125 g of sodium, 41 g of carbohydrates, and 14 g of sugar, and finally 7 g of protein.
During his 30 mins to 1 hour drive for his morning run, he eats cashews and different nuts and finishes his coffee and sometimes eats half a banana.
Drinks: first of all his drinks include straight water and in the winter tea especially turmeric tea and also Bigs recovery drinks which contain tablets for example orange mango and more coffee. He also drinks raw hibiscus tea, probiotic and organic.
Seth used to drink beer but he’s really cut back on beer his favorite used to be KOLSCH. He’s more of a red wine drinker these days.
Lunch: 2 fried eggs, cut tomatoes, can of tuna, jalapeño sauce from Trader Joe’s, mixed with some more nuts. No bread, no rice, no potatoes.
For dinner: he has a huge mixed salad with two more eggs, the big salad contains spinach and then sometimes chicken, tuna, steak. No rice, pasta or bread - zero.
Where does he get his carbs from? From cashews and nuts and also from popcorn which he has as a night snack every night or most nights a week, five nights a week. His typical dessert after his evening meal contains chips and salsa sometimes with guacamole and he sometimes adds raisins.
He has a unique system for eating in that he eats most of his meals on his own despite having a wife and three kids because he does not like to eat spaghetti or rice or carbs in general. That is to say he does not like to eat most conventional carbs. He gets his carbs from cashews, nuts, popcorn, and chips.
Here is the complete list of foods which comprise most of his diet on a weekly basis:
Bananas, honey, walnuts, spinach, Fried eggs, Red peppers, chicken, tuna, pickles, hard-boiled eggs with salt and pepper, chips and salsa, dark chocolate from Trader Joe’s, wine, guacamole, sometimes the vegetables in the salad contain mushrooms, onions, peppers, and carrots.
Remember the snack at about 8 PM when his kids go to bed is popcorn with butter, raisins, cashews and sometimes honey.
So, he eats oat bars, bananas, honey, popcorn, chips, carrots, recovery drinks + long run fuelling, but this is low carb?
As others have stated, he doesn't normally run 130mpw. His Strava shows some very aggressive rest weeks and tapers. It probably averages out to more like 90 mpw.
Carbs are the preferred fuel source for intense exercise, so if he isn't eating enough, that just holds him back. Unless you are doing ultras and are fully fat adapted like Zach Bitter. That's a different game, though.
absolutely laughable wrote:
I take it you subscribe to Seth's channel?
Not sure if I am a subscriber or not, but I really like the dude. Comes across as very sincere and a real fan of running. The videos I've seen of him climbing are impressive. Makes it look effortless. I suppose it helps that he's only 125lbs., or whatever he weighs. Am always curious about other runner's diets. And his performance at Pikes Peak was stellar!
Well he did represent the US in Argentina (World Mountain Champs).
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
His Bobo bar has 41 grams of carbohydrates. That's only low carb to most on this board.
Yea....and the banana....and the carbs here and there in his other foods.
He's probably at or just below 100g carbs a day.
If the body requires sugar it will make it by other means. Look up gluconeogenesis.
Alan
This is nothing to do with running and everything to do with habit.
For over a decade I've been eating a protein bar 4 x a day that has 14g fat and ~40 carbs.
Hundred grams of carbs is nothing in a diet which should be around 2500 to 3500 calories for a man running 130 miles a week.
Most Asian athletes consume between 500 to 800 g of carbs minimum per day mostly in the form of rice and it does not seem to hurt them. This includes Japanese marathon runners who have bowls of rice with every meal and usually those bowls of rice container around 150 to 200 g of rice, if you count second helpings. A Japanese elite marathon runner would find Demoor’s diet rather strange.
Yup, and most Kenyans eat between 70/15/15 and 80/10/10 Carb/fat/protein ratio I think
But not everyone is a kenyan and that doesn’t apply to everyone of course
okayy wrote:
But not everyone is a kenyan and that doesn’t apply to everyone of course
Your comment is correct in that the Kenyans who eat predominantly carbohydrates at 70 to 80% of their diet are runners in the rift valley who choose that kind of diet for energy and the cheapness of carbohydrate foods compared to proteins and other more expensive commodities.
If you observe the middle class in Nairobi, and those who don’t run, their weight is quite a bit more and there is a growing diabetes problem and the middle class in Nairobi who eat a lot more meat and other foods not a simple diet of the elite runners in the R.V. mostly based on carbs.
Having said this, Ugali, is still the staple of choice for most Kenyans no matter the economic level. Westerners will find this type of maize carbohydrate rather tasteless unless added to other foods to give it zest.
EdisonCityRunner wrote:
With that said who really cares what he eats?
His subscribers care, man. They care what he eats, how he ties his shoes, if he tucks in his shirt or not, how many times a day he poops etc. etc.. Thats how all these youtube cultist consumers are these days. They want to know every little detail about these people they follow.
Not sure I would call that "competing ". He was over 7 mins behind the winner (USA Joe Gray) in a 15k race. The women possibly ran faster than him that day?
absolutely laughable wrote:
EdisonCityRunner wrote:
With that said who really cares what he eats?
His subscribers care, man. They care what he eats, how he ties his shoes, if he tucks in his shirt or not, how many times a day he poops etc. etc.. Thats how all these youtube cultist consumers are these days. They want to know every little detail about these people they follow.
...Just to clarify.......Yes, I care what he eats and how many times a day he poops (been having trouble getting through any races longer than 10K without a potty break, these 'breaks' are costing me upwards of 50 seconds (not sure how Shalane does 16 sec. pit stops but I'm working on getting quicker)), BUT, if you think I care how he ties his shoes or whether or not he tucks in his shirt, you must be joshing.
He also often has Andy’s custard. From celebrating W’s
Even Kipchoge had a bad day. Point is having been selected to represent a country in an international race usually indicates a runner is a elite, no?
Seth DeMoore never reached his potential in the marathon so far and his time of 2:23 in Marathon does not reflect his intrinsic worth which I believe would be around 212 to 215. If you look at his body shape, running form, biomechanics, everything to do with running high performance of the marathon he almost seems pre-formatted to be an elite marathon runner so Demoor’s time of 2:23 is not at all representative of his worth in the marathon.
I feel he had been sidetracked by other things he was doing in his life during his 20s and now that he’s in his mid-30s it might not be so easy to improve his times in a marathon but still he’s a great guy and we love his YouTube channel in general.
Ghost1 wrote:
Seth DeMoore never reached his potential in the marathon so far and his time of 2:23 in Marathon does not reflect his intrinsic worth which I believe would be around 212 to 215. If you look at his body shape, running form, biomechanics, everything to do with running high performance of the marathon he almost seems pre-formatted to be an elite marathon runner so Demoor’s time of 2:23 is not at all representative of his worth in the marathon.
I feel he had been sidetracked by other things he was doing in his life during his 20s and now that he’s in his mid-30s it might not be so easy to improve his times in a marathon but still he’s a great guy and we love his YouTube channel in general.
Sounds about right, I would have run 2:11ish as well, if I hadn't been sidetracked.
BS, Seth DeMoore is a 2:23 Marathoner because that's what he ran. Would have, could have doesn't count.
Don't be fooled again wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:
Seth DeMoore never reached his potential in the marathon so far and his time of 2:23 in Marathon does not reflect his intrinsic worth which I believe would be around 212 to 215. If you look at his body shape, running form, biomechanics, everything to do with running high performance of the marathon he almost seems pre-formatted to be an elite marathon runner so Demoor’s time of 2:23 is not at all representative of his worth in the marathon.
I feel he had been sidetracked by other things he was doing in his life during his 20s and now that he’s in his mid-30s it might not be so easy to improve his times in a marathon but still he’s a great guy and we love his YouTube channel in general.
Sounds about right, I would have run 2:11ish as well, if I hadn't been sidetracked.
BS, Seth DeMoore is a 2:23 Marathoner because that's what he ran. Would have, could have doesn't count.
Seth ran 2:23:37 in Amsterdam after going through the half in sub 2:14:00 pace with the pacesetters (chasing Butter) for the top-Dutch guy, Frank Futselaar who finished in 2:14:06. Seth admits it was not a smart decision to go out that fast.
Two weeks later, he ran 2:24:01 in New York after starting behind a group of charity runners that were led into the starting area between the elites and the faster first wave guys. If I remember correctly, he was on 2:19:00 pace but slowed in the end. Not a smart move to try to race a marathon after a "crash and burn" debut marathon two weeks earlier.
Twelve days later after NYC, he ran the World Mountain championships as part of the US Team and, predictably, did not have a great day.
His Amsterdam race shows he was probably in 2:17:00 to 2:18:00 shape in late 2019. His Pikes Peaks win and his FKT improvements in 2020 indicate that he is in better shape now.