+1 for that last part
+1 for that last part
HITHEREYOU wrote:
America's fury wrote:
Shocked that Hoka is so low on that list. I think i see more people wearing those than Nike.
Not really, how many kids do you see with Hoka shorts, tops, caps on? I.e. zero. Hoka pretty much only do moon boots for middle aged runners and that's it.
To be fair, middle aged runners are probably a good portion of runners. At the high school level we're definitely nominated by Nike and Brooks though, but I can certainly see Hoka outselling say adidas or some other brands in terms of running shoes
Why doesn't LetsRun.com put up the money and pay a researcher to do a study on the various carbon fiber shoes?
180 ml/kg/km? Girl needs to eat some carbs.
America's fury wrote:
Shocked that Hoka is so low on that list. I think i see more people wearing those than Nike.
Hoka seems to be very American based company, find it hard to get Hoka in many running stores in Europe, but it has improved. Can't find fault in them, extremely comfortable. I've done a few marathons in Germany and easily 70% shoes are Adidas Adizero.
What's interesting is as shoe companies accelerate their own innovation and development of updates to their carbon plate racing shoes, and including Saucony, the "best shoe" for an athlete will be more similar than it is different, by the time of the Sapporo 2021 Marathon. Really Malindi could be wearing one of any 4 or 5 brands' carbon plate racing models and do great in any of them, as by the time the 2020ne Olympics arrive, the Endorphin Pro v1 will be old news.
Work in a university exercise science lab that could theoretically do this type of study, good points made here. The biggest barrier is the cost IMHO. It's a study I'd love to see done, but I can see why it hasn't been done in a more neutral environment.
Normally, with studies involving shoes (or other "devices" such as prosthetics, braces, implants etc.) there is some type of funding agreement where the items are given to you. In some cases this is somewhat indirect (ie. medical company we worked with provided NB trainers for use in testing of their non-shoe products).
It is unlikely that all/any shoe company would do in-kind donations for this type of study because it might result in their product looking bad. The best hope would be an investor who is interested in a more neutral result such as a running store, Letsrun/running media (though admittedly both orgs rely a bit on advertising money, so maybe not so inclined). A federal sports agency might fund this, but I think for the most part they tend to focus research money on sports that their countries do well in (ie. not distance running if you're in a G8 country lol).
The cost is not trivial. If you want a decent sized study (maybe 20-30 people, men and women) and you want to test a decent array of shoes (Nike vs. adidas, vs. Hoka, vs. Saucony vs. NB) at ~$200-300 per pair that's 10s of thousands on shoes alone (recall: not all participants will have same shoe size, so can't just buy 1 of each).
How does Saucony Endorphin Pro 2 compare to original?
Can buy the original online for $99 VS $199 for Pro 2. What would you do.
Be detailed and/or provide link if this been discussed extensively on prior thread.
Thanks in advance.
I was wondering the same thing but honestly I don't ever see Endorphin shoes making podiums at ether local or international events.
Pro & Pro 2 are largely the same shoe. Only difference is in the upper but I found both to be comfortable for all races 5k to marathon. $99 is a steal for the original and I’d go with that! While the vaporfly is probably faster for most people, the endorphin pro is not far behind and you’ll likely get double the miles out of it.
That’s more of a function of the athletes who these companies sponsor, not the shoe itself. Kipchoge (and any Nike athlete) would still run a ridiculous time in the endorphin pro haha
American men regularly now run sub 13 5k and sun 27 10k but marathons stuck at 2:07. What gives?
2024 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion
Gjert did it again - produces another Diamond League champ. Nordas over Lobalu and Grijalva 7:33.49
Nordas running 3:34 with one shoe is proof that supershoes don’t work