Frank Meza 2:53:10 at LA Marathon (70 years old) unofficial time (just finished)

Roderick Powell wrote:

Gene fractured his scapula midway after taking a hard fall at a trail 10k recently. He will be out of running for a couple months.

Knowing your post history of making seemingly innocuous posts to throw shade while also absolving yourself from being accusatory... Are you implying that Gene injured himself on purpose just so that he can save face by not competing against WR-Holder Frank?

Scott Dominguez wrote:

I find no humor in your videos Tony Rigdon and neither does Frank, expect to hear from us soon!

I really should take up a new hobby. But I like running. And computers. And detailed analysis of available evidence. And for you computer geeks, I like curl commands which allow me to batch download a series of race photos in chronological order. I’m personally thoroughly convinced that FM cheated in pretty much every race he’s been in for the last decade.

This post is for those who continue to support FM.

One of the problems with cheating is you don’t always know where the race photographers will be. These two contact sheets are from the 2018 Long Beach Marathon, where FM claimed a 2:53:26 finish time.

The first photo in this series is the lead pack. It doesn’t look like #2637 or #2638 finished, but #2199 did in a time of 2:28:06. The last runner in this series of photos, #2545, ran 3:09:27. FM does not show up in any of the photos between the first and last.

For the FM supporters who will say, “oh, he must have been behind another runner at that spot”, I offer you….another spot. And another contact sheet. To paraphrase a book I read to my kids when they were young, and with apologies to Waldo, “Where’s Frank?”

And just because he’s that kind of guy….

Any questions?

No questions, just a comment, wish I knew how to do that, I could have saved myself a shitload of time and effort throughout this thread.

Haha, the hits keep coming.

More please.

HI SUCKERS (Oh shite, hang on a sec...)

Well of course you can't see him. The photographer should have focused more on the sidewalk if he want to capture the great man in action.

It's not Franks fault

And lest I be accused of cherry-picking…..follow up to my last post.

2017 Long Beach Marathon. The first photo in the contact sheet shows #2320 who finished in 2:26:42.

https://imgur.com/a/3svZio7

The second contact sheet is sequential to the first, since MarathonFoto only does 50 shots per “roll” on its site before starting the numbering over again.

https://imgur.com/a/yLXWDrZ

Frank claimed a time of 2:54:26 at Long Beach 2017, but he appears nowhere between the first runner on the first contact sheet who ran 2:26:42, and the last runner on the second contact sheet, #1067, who finished 3:06:35.

Maybe he’s like a vampire and a mirror? He just doesn’t show up in photographs?

Groovy wrote:

Roderick Powell wrote:

Gene fractured his scapula midway after taking a hard fall at a trail 10k recently. He will be out of running for a couple months.

Knowing your post history of making seemingly innocuous posts to throw shade while also absolving yourself from being accusatory... Are you implying that Gene injured himself on purpose just so that he can save face by not competing against WR-Holder Frank?

Funny....no, you know from earlier posts on this thread that Gene Dykes relished the idea of having someone his age to compete with. We still do not know if he reached Frank to "congratulate" him. We do know now from recent reporting that he feels that competition is unlikely to happen. Personally, having fallen face first twice in the last 6 months, after never having fallen...we over 60 runners need to be careful. Gene Dykes is so much the opposite of FM. His running life is an open book for all to see. FYI, I have put posts out there, such as the Pasadena HM 2019 photos of FM, honestly not realizing that he had re-entered the course to run with his family, and given his sons wife his bib. I have been sold for a while now hat FM is guilty of cheating. Even now though, I wonder if when he ran the NYRR HM in Staten Island 2009 in 1:39:42, if that was his real ability. That's a 7:36 pace. The KTLA live feed post on page 3 is so damning for FM...most likely another FM re-entry....I am still surprised that no sleuth has diagnosed what exactly he did. I have watched that clothing change and bib popping out many times and can't figure it out. The post tonight was to throw it out there that FM may actually not have been aware of such things as ineligible courses and requirements for records that it be "clock" time. He not only cheated, he carefully manipulated what time he would get well before the races. The LAM 2019 announcer as FM is approaching the finish line clearly had no clue of the magnitude of what FM had just done, nor anyone else seemingly....just amazing...and no one looked at him and thought hummmm....also amazing

And finally, before I head off to bed, I give you the 2016 Long Beach Marathon.

The first photo is a wheelchair racer whose number I can’t see, but the first runner is #170, who ran 2:43:51. The last runner in the series is #1454, who ran 3:13:13.

https://imgur.com/a/47MJwyN

Frank claimed a 2:55:07 at this race.

I can do this all day long, Frank. Are you *so* fast you don’t even appear in race photos? Asking for a friend.

Frank just has a habit of starting out too fast, from back when he was a 2:20 runner. That's why you don't see him in the photos of the midpack runners.

That also explains his stretching at 9 km, as well as the washroom breaks which he uses to sit down because of his over-pacing.

Roderick Powell wrote:

I have gotten to know Gene Dykes through this thread. Gene fractured his scapula midway after taking a hard fall at a trail 10k recently. He will be out of running for a couple months.

The last run of his on Strava I can see is a 4.95 mile recovery run on Saturday 22nd June.

Too much time on my hands.... wrote:

Scott Dominguez wrote:

I find no humor in your videos Tony Rigdon and neither does Frank, expect to hear from us soon!

I really should take up a new hobby. But I like running. And computers. And detailed analysis of available evidence. And for you computer geeks, I like curl commands which allow me to batch download a series of race photos in chronological order. I’m personally thoroughly convinced that FM cheated in pretty much every race he’s been in for the last decade.

Well Scott Dominguez, since you posted at 11:27PM on 6/23/2019 (Page 186) there's been a shitload more evidence posted and it certainly ain't humorous (most of it anyway), so instead of hearing from you soon can we hear now what you and Frank think of it.

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

Roderick Powell wrote:

I have gotten to know Gene Dykes through this thread. Gene fractured his scapula midway after taking a hard fall at a trail 10k recently. He will be out of running for a couple months.

The last run of his on Strava I can see is a 4.95 mile recovery run on Saturday 22nd June.

Hmmmmm

Have someone else upload Strava data in your name, perhaps?

Data thief wrote:

Hmmmmm

Have someone else upload Strava data in your name, perhaps?

You are seeing crazed conspiracies where none exist, go and have a look, he is completely open and above board.

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

Roderick Powell wrote:

I have gotten to know Gene Dykes through this thread. Gene fractured his scapula midway after taking a hard fall at a trail 10k recently. He will be out of running for a couple months.

The last run of his on Strava I can see is a 4.95 mile recovery run on Saturday 22nd June.

Not sure what race, but it must have been Sunday. I have been reading a book called The Ultimate Guide To Trail Running. You have to be tough to run/race “on the trails”.

Too much time on my hands.... wrote:

And finally, before I head off to bed, I give you the 2016 Long Beach Marathon.

The first photo is a wheelchair racer whose number I can’t see, but the first runner is #170, who ran 2:43:51. The last runner in the series is #1454, who ran 3:13:13.

Frank claimed a 2:55:07 at this race.

I can do this all day long, Frank. Are you *so* fast you don’t even appear in race photos? Asking for a friend.

Damned fine work.

I did the same thing a few weeks ago looking for Frank on a bike on the sidewalk. No luck. I used autohotkey though and urldownload, incrementing. I also tried doing a pixel search by color for his shirt in every photo, but there were way too many false positives because of the lighting, and one guy's rainbow colored socks kept showing up. :lol:

My $0.02

Challenging FM to run a 5K at 20 min, or even a 10K at 40 min, is a TERRIBLE idea.

Watch the video of the 2018 LAM finish. Frank's visible from 1:26 LEFT to 1:22:50 left. At 1:22:50 LEFT in the video he's at the front of the visible field. To me, he appears to keep pace with the other runners for the 3 minutes he's visible. Presumably the other runners are 2:55 marathon finishers, so about 6:45 pace.

The evidence is already overwhelming. If he were to come close and run even 21 min 5k or even a 42 min 10k, I think it'd cloud the issue for many people. No challenges.

https://ktla.com/2018/03/18/live-video-watch-final-leg-of-l-a-marathon-on-finish-line-cam/?fbclid=IwAR3EV-OciBrZOFEOviXTBqUPSauSpb2fDe7M6j8Rgh8NY-VCV2NnFIDQAoQ