This is, in a nutshell, the Democrat party. if you are a Democrat they will support you no matter what you do. Murder someone, they will fight for your release. The Democrat party - the party of crime. just a shame.
This is, in a nutshell, the Democrat party. if you are a Democrat they will support you no matter what you do. Murder someone, they will fight for your release. The Democrat party - the party of crime. just a shame.
You slaughtered someone? Let's work on getting you released so you can slaughter again. The Democrat Party -THE PARTY OFCRIME AND CRIMINALS. We supporter criminals.
no idea why you think this is a point worth debating.
If you haven't figured it out yet. Our two resident Trumpers who deny being Trumpers simply like to debate. They like to argue for arguing sense. They are not interested in arriving at truth. They like threads to go on and on and involve themselves as the focus of attention.
. . . Which is why there's a "Block" option. Works great!
no idea why you think this is a point worth debating.
If you haven't figured it out yet. Our two resident Trumpers who deny being Trumpers simply like to debate. They like to argue for arguing sense. They are not interested in arriving at truth. They like threads to go on and on and involve themselves as the focus of attention. Don't take the bait. Reserve your debate time for honest brokers.
Adult is a politician. Every response is something he’s already said. Every response is in support of a political side. Politicians aren’t honest. Politicians are persistent.
If you haven't figured it out yet. Our two resident Trumpers who deny being Trumpers simply like to debate. They like to argue for arguing sense. They are not interested in arriving at truth. They like threads to go on and on and involve themselves as the focus of attention. Don't take the bait. Reserve your debate time for honest brokers.
Adult is a politician. Every response is something he’s already said. Every response is in support of a political side. Politicians aren’t honest. Politicians are persistent.
he's in the trump/desantis school of running the country as an angry zero sum, violent fight to the death. They all seem to favor using state power to quash their political views. Scary, undemocratic stuff. They should move to Poland, Russia, Turkey or Hungary - those places are more to their tastes.
Good post. I, and I suspect others (with less self-restraint than you and others), wrestle with this on a regular basis. Tons one could say about it, but at the moment this is in the front of my mind: Many sane, decent American watch a Trump rally and see the Trumper Neanderthals behind him and shake our heads (and perhaps yell at the screen). Or dozens of other indicators one gets daily about how many dangerous morons this country has.
Coming to a board like this and interacting with real, live Trumper Neanderthals is kind of interesting. You can get a feel for what Trump/Fox America is thinking without tolerating a few minutes of Fox (which can be HARD). And perhaps a bit of a vent to tell them what you can't tell a TV screen or news article.
But in the end, is it worth the time? Probably not. But depending on the day.....
And as I've mentioned before, I've also found in interesting that sometimes it seems that the non-Trumpers actually find arguing with the lost-cause Trumpers more desirable than discussing things with the sane ones. I know that might sound whiny, and it's certainly not universally true....but notable, and yes, somewhat disappointing.
Yes. I get what you are saying. I live in Florida and I see people still buying "Trump won" flags for their cars at roadside stands and I have to admit that I am captivated by it. I want to fully understand it. I certainly don't know any of these people. Do they truly believe what they say? Or what Trump tells them? Or is it like a Football fan that simply follows his favorite team no matter how bad they suck.
I guess that is why I come here as well. A bit of an opportunity to see how these people think.
But rarely do these boards every get into a search for the truth. Much less arrive at truth. Truth is not the target. It is just a pissing match of deflection and whataboutisms.
Honestly, I think the people on this board like that are similar to the FL car flag wavers. They simply want attention. They want to feel they matter, if they can get a rise out of some people, it justifies their existence.
Honestly, I think the people on this board like that are similar to the FL car flag wavers. They simply want attention. They want to feel they matter, if they can get a rise out of some people, it justifies their existence.
I am a middle class white guy who is marginalized at work. Globalization and illegal immigration are ruining things for people like me. People who are 15 years older than me were able to get good jobs without good grades. They got to retirement without seeing their jobs taken by an immigrant or shipped across an ocean. Guys like me are living in fear of losing our jobs and are facing a bleak retirement. The generation before may have not been the greatest generation, but they got to live the greatest life. They did not have to see their promotions be destroyed by DEI or spend hours trying to learn how not to micro-insult black people and women. They didn't have to learn how to use pronouns nor did they have to pretend to care about trans rights. So yes I am supporting the guy who believes that America needs to be more like it used to be in order to be great again. I want my birthright. I am willing to overlook a lot of stuff that may not be that important to me, but meaningful for other parts of the DJT coalition so that I can get what is coming to me. I am Ok with a strong authoritarian government if it frees me from the woke stuff.
absurd. Americans have never had it as well as they have it today. Unemployment rates used to be thought fine at 6,7,8% and anything under 5% was considered a boom time. Now it's 3.4%, wages are rising, and people like fetterman are still whining. Grow up.
Americans today are the richest they've ever been, have the highest incomes, and far, far outearn people in our peer nations. If you can't make it today in America you aren't really trying.
Brave of fetterman to say that he's fine with getting rid of democracy though. A growing number of Republicans agree. Ugly and awful, but at least they are being honest now.
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CNN — Federal prosecutors have obtained an audio recording of a summer 2021 meeting in which former President Donald Trump acknowledges he held onto a classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran, multiple sources told CNN, undercutting his argument that he declassified everything. The recording indicates Trump understood he retained classified material after leaving the White House, according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation. On the recording, Trump’s comments suggest he would like to share the information but he’s aware of limitations on his ability post-presidency to declassify records, two of the sources said.
absurd. Americans have never had it as well as they have it today. Unemployment rates used to be thought fine at 6,7,8% and anything under 5% was considered a boom time. Now it's 3.4%, wages are rising, and people like fetterman are still whining. Grow up.
Americans today are the richest they've ever been, have the highest incomes, and far, far outearn people in our peer nations. If you can't make it today in America you aren't really trying.
That sounds very like a conservative argument or set of talking points. Weren't you saying things contrary to this a few days or weeks ago?
DeSanctimorial is a back-stabbing, immoral, degenerate. He is RINO of the worst order. After all Trump did for him - befriended him, mentored him, guided him through the alcoholism, saved his political career dozens of times, single-handedly got him elected in Florida - just to be repaid in treachery and deviations from the norm. It makes me sick. Sick like an animal.
Looks like Christie is going to run, as a truth-teller against trump. No other Republican will be able to tell the truth about the election and trump's criminality and being unfit to serve, so Christie will be most welcome. Could stir things up. But of course he will pull no more than 1% of the vote and will get no delegates.
Republicans don't want the truth - they want Donald J Trump. But Christie will give them some truth and that's a good thing.
Christie is pretty sharp and would be 1000 times better than Biden but he is such a jerk.
Christie is smarter than all of them and a bit of a jerk yes. Makes him effective and dangerous, like in this clip
absurd. Americans have never had it as well as they have it today. Unemployment rates used to be thought fine at 6,7,8% and anything under 5% was considered a boom time. Now it's 3.4%, wages are rising, and people like fetterman are still whining. Grow up.
Americans today are the richest they've ever been, have the highest incomes, and far, far outearn people in our peer nations. If you can't make it today in America you aren't really trying.
That sounds very like a conservative argument or set of talking points. Weren't you saying things contrary to this a few days or weeks ago?
I've never been one of the leftist economic doom and gloomers. I recognize the astonishing and growing wealth and success of this nation and try never to engage in 'it was so much better in the 1970s' absurdities or all these fallacious moral panics over inequality.
Remarkably, it's a bipartisan success. Roughly the same proportion of Dems and Rs voted yes for it! We've done it! We've come together as a nation!
Now let's hope Ted Cruz or Mike Lee doesn't decide to blow up the world in the senate.
I'm savoring the passing of the bill. The vast middle coming together to make the crazy extremists irrelevant. Nice!
Hooray.
The poor get screwed again.
Congrats! The first leftist thing you've said in months and months, from a self-proclaimed 'harcore leftist.' You are usually too busy defending Republicans and Putin to worry about the poor. But you did it here, so bravo.
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SANTA FE, N.M. — A failed political candidate has been indicted on federal charges, including election interference, in connection with a series of drive-by shootings at the homes of state and local lawmakers in Albuquerque, according to a grand jury indictment that was unsealed Wednesday. The indictment filed in U.S. District Court in Albuquerque takes aim at former Republican candidate Solomon Peña and two alleged accomplices with additional conspiracy and weapons-related charges in connection with the shootings in December 2022 and January of this year on the homes of four Democratic officials, including the current state House speaker. The attacks came amid a surge of threats and acts of intimidation against election workers and public officials across the country after former President Donald Trump and his allies spread false claims about the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. U.S. Attorney Alexander Uballez highlighted that the shootings targeted the homes of two county commissioners shortly after their certification of the 2022 election. “Peña targeted several of these public officials because, in their official capacity, they certified the election, which he lost,” Uballez said at a news conference. “In America, voters pick their leaders and would-be leaders don’t get to pick which voters they heed, which rules apply to them, or which laws to follow.”
Remarkably, it's a bipartisan success. Roughly the same proportion of Dems and Rs voted yes for it! We've done it! We've come together as a nation!
Now let's hope Ted Cruz or Mike Lee doesn't decide to blow up the world in the senate.
I'm savoring the passing of the bill. The vast middle coming together to make the crazy extremists irrelevant. Nice!
The crazy extremists on BOTH sides. Also, 3.4% unemployment is two low. Conservatives DO NOT want to get rid of the democracy (actually the republic). We love having a democracy/republic. It is the Liberals who moan and whine when the electoral college decides the election (as the Constitution intended). We want the popular vote to decide each election because the popular vote generally favors the Dems. So we will whine and moan about it and ignore precedent.
I've never been one of the leftist economic doom and gloomers. I recognize the astonishing and growing wealth and success of this nation and try never to engage in 'it was so much better in the 1970s' absurdities or all these fallacious moral panics over inequality.
Listen, if you're gonna talk like an adult with that "nuance" stuff, you can find yourself another discussion board. This is LRC!