Really? Isn't it interesting that New York City's population has a higher percentage of black people and a higher percentage of Hispanic people than Florida does, yet FL has a markedly higher homicide rate than NYC?
So, tgf: Are you saying that those five states have a high percentage of white and Asian folks? Is that the demographic commonality that you're not allowed to mention?
Or could it just possibly be the case that there are other factors playing a bigger role than the party affiliation of officials, and the race of their constituents?
There are other factors, but race is a massive factor. The data is overwhelming.
If you're liberal, you're right to just ignore subject of crime and democraphics. You will get clobbered by the data.
Since there are different ethnic and social economic groups in both red and blue states, that is not the reason for the higher homicide rate in red states. The one area that is different between red and blue states and the obvious reason for the higher homicide rates in red states, is the easier access to guns that are used for killing. (Gun culture is also a related contributing factor.)
I do believe that the crazy m'aga crowd is ambivalent about the US defaulting on is financial obligations. Trump was pretty clear in his statements about letting it happen.
They figure that the base (like Sally) would just blame Biden.
Does anyone seriously think that the extreme core elected m'aga group is concerned about the US defaulting?
I do believe that the crazy m'aga crowd is ambivalent about the US defaulting on is financial obligations. Trump was pretty clear in his statements about letting it happen.
They figure that the base (like Sally) would just blame Biden.
Does anyone seriously think that the extreme core elected m'aga group is concerned about the US defaulting?
M’aga wants a purifying fire of catastrophe. Zero doubt.
part of it is that they are children and want to be entertained, not governed competently.
anotjrt part is that they hate government so much they actively want it to fail. So they can point and say ‘told you so.’ Profoundly anti-democratic. They don’t believe in government by the people for the people.
Clinton years: GOP threatens default and shutdown. W years: GOP triples the National debt. Obama years: GOP threatens default and shutdowns. Trump years: GOP adds another $7 trillion in debt. Biden years: GOP threatens defa…
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There are other factors, but race is a massive factor. The data is overwhelming.
If you're liberal, you're right to just ignore subject of crime and democraphics. You will get clobbered by the data.
Hey man you seem smart. What race is the problem?
You are of the belief that the murder of Lawrence Herr, a janitor in the NOLA area, is relatively unimportant and not worth reading and getting upset about, but that the death of, e.g., Trayvon Martin is relatively important (of national importance) and is worth reading about and getting quite upset about (maybe even rioting over). And the reason you make such a significant distinction between the two deaths/events is because you have an understanding (albeit unexpressed understanding) of something that I do not have, and I can only hope to gain by stumbling upon it if I'm lucky.
I have summarized your expressed beliefs with accuracy. And I have posted a link to the story of the murder of Lawrence Herr that you should, of course, ignore because it's not worth your time and political sensibilities.
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I do believe that the crazy m'aga crowd is ambivalent about the US defaulting on is financial obligations. Trump was pretty clear in his statements about letting it happen.
They figure that the base (like Sally) would just blame Biden.
Does anyone seriously think that the extreme core elected m'aga group is concerned about the US defaulting?
M’aga wants a purifying fire of catastrophe. Zero doubt.
part of it is that they are children and want to be entertained, not governed competently.
anotjrt part is that they hate government so much they actively want it to fail. So they can point and say ‘told you so.’ Profoundly anti-democratic. They don’t believe in government by the people for the people.
Clinton years: GOP threatens default and shutdown. W years: GOP triples the National debt. Obama years: GOP threatens default and shutdowns. Trump years: GOP adds another $7 trillion in debt. Biden years: GOP threatens defa…
The GOP already passed a bill to raise the debt limit.
There are other factors, but race is a massive factor. The data is overwhelming.
So you're saying the higher percentage of whites/Asians in Florida *is* the reason it has a higher homicide rate? Sorry, just want to understand your position here.
Everyone, including you, knows which demographics commit more crimes both in Florida and New York. If you don't you can look it up - but you probably don't need to.
While the Foreign Ministry didn't specifically detail its gripes with Raffensperger, they indicated that their targets included "those in government and law enforcement agencies who are directly involved in the persecution of dissidents in the wake of the so-called storming of the Capitol."
You are of the belief that the murder of Lawrence Herr, a janitor in the NOLA area, is relatively unimportant and not worth reading and getting upset about, but that the death of, e.g., Trayvon Martin is relatively important (of national importance) and is worth reading about and getting quite upset about (maybe even rioting over). And the reason you make such a significant distinction between the two deaths/events is because you have an understanding (albeit unexpressed understanding) of something that I do not have, and I can only hope to gain by stumbling upon it if I'm lucky.
I have summarized your expressed beliefs with accuracy. And I have posted a link to the story of the murder of Lawrence Herr that you should, of course, ignore because it's not worth your time and political sensibilities.
Where did I say that one was more important than the other? Was this another subliminal message I conveyed via rhetorical question? Are you purposefully trolling me by misrepresenting what I’m saying? I don’t know how you could be this lost.
I’m saying that a national news outlet like NBC might platform one murder story and not the other because it’s more important to their audience and thus will generate more engagement. You don’t seem to think this is the case, and so I ask again, why do you think there’s a discrepancy in reporting these types of crimes based on the race of the individuals involved? I’m genuinely very curious as to what you believe causes this phenomenon that we both agree exists, and I’m not sure how we could continue this discussion without you explaining what you actually believe. Have some courage buddy.
M’aga wants a purifying fire of catastrophe. Zero doubt.
part of it is that they are children and want to be entertained, not governed competently.
anotjrt part is that they hate government so much they actively want it to fail. So they can point and say ‘told you so.’ Profoundly anti-democratic. They don’t believe in government by the people for the people.
Clinton years: GOP threatens default and shutdown. W years: GOP triples the National debt. Obama years: GOP threatens default and shutdowns. Trump years: GOP adds another $7 trillion in debt. Biden years: GOP threatens defa…
The GOP already passed a bill to raise the debt limit.
Why won't Biden sign it?
Because, as you well know, it contains conditions that Biden finds unacceptable.
Moreover, the Senate also has to pass it before Biden can sign it, and will not do so. As you also well know.
The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday narrowly passed a bill to raise the government's $31.4 trillion debt ceiling that includes sweeping spending cuts over the next decade.
So you're saying the higher percentage of whites/Asians in Florida *is* the reason it has a higher homicide rate? Sorry, just want to understand your position here.
Everyone, including you, knows which demographics commit more crimes both in Florida and New York. If you don't you can look it up - but you probably don't need to.
So if race is a "massive factor," as you have said--and you've implied that it's the most important factor . . .
How is it that New York City--which perforce is entirely urban, has been run by Dems for years, and has a population with higher percentages of black and brown people than Florida (which is a mix of urban, suburban, and rural, and is run by the GOP)--has a markedly lower homicide rate? Wouldn't that mean that there are important "other factors"? Wouldn't that mean that those other factors in toto are more "massive" than race?
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Everyone, including you, knows which demographics commit more crimes both in Florida and New York. If you don't you can look it up - but you probably don't need to.
So if race is a "massive factor," as you have said--and you've implied that it's the most important factor . . .
How is it that New York City--which perforce is entirely urban, has been run by Dems for years, and has a population with higher percentages of black and brown people than Florida (which is a mix of urban, suburban, and rural, and is run by the GOP)--has a markedly lower homicide rate? Wouldn't that mean that there are important "other factors"? Wouldn't that mean that those other factors in toto are more "massive" than race?
You're cherry-picking two locations. And the violent crime isn't "marketedly" lower in NYC. Both are close to the national average.
So why won't he even negotiate over these conditions?
The president doesn't dicate the budget and never has. This is 100% on Biden.
But God forbit we cut one cent of government spending.
By the way, I thougth defaulting on the debt was "unacceptable."
If he finds spending cuts even more "unacceptable," then he is okay with defaulting on the debt.
This is 100% on Biden.
dude, the dems offered spending cuts and the Rs moved the goalpoasts.
The Rs just want to cause Biden's presidency and the nation to fail.
The fault is 80/20 on the Rs. They are fine with increasing the debt limit when there is an R president. They only care this time because Biden is a Democrat.
Pay what Ds and Rs already spent, Rs. Then negotiate the budget.
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Not sure why no one is using a previous R hostage-taking episide as a path - remember sequestration? Seems like that could be an off-ramp from this suicide pact. Seemed to work ok back then. Maybe the rules have changed since.
Idea was to increase the debt limit but create a bipartisan committee to get cuts passed. And if the committee failed, across the board cuts were automatic. The across the board cuts happened and it was ok. Slowed the Obama economy but not too much.
Budget sequestration is a provision of United States law that causes an across-the-board reduction in certain kinds of spending included in the federal budget. Sequestration involves setting a hard cap on the amount of govern...
So if race is a "massive factor," as you have said--and you've implied that it's the most important factor . . .
How is it that New York City--which perforce is entirely urban, has been run by Dems for years, and has a population with higher percentages of black and brown people than Florida (which is a mix of urban, suburban, and rural, and is run by the GOP)--has a markedly lower homicide rate? Wouldn't that mean that there are important "other factors"? Wouldn't that mean that those other factors in toto are more "massive" than race?
You're cherry-picking two locations. And the violent crime isn't "[markedly]" lower in NYC. Both are close to the national average.
1) I specifically mentioned the "homicide rate."
2) In 2022 NYC's population was 8,335,897 and its total murders were 433. Rate per 100,000 inhabitants: 5.2
3) Florida's homicide rate per 100k inhabitants: 9.7, which is 86% higher than NYC's. New York City's homicide rate is indeed markedly lower.
4) And yes, I picked those examples because the governor of Florida--the guy who runs the state--is being touted (along with all other potential GOP candidates) by the sogenannte "Law&Order!" party as a tough-on-crime guy who'll make Americans safer. Well, evidently he hasn't, after four-plus years at the helm, achieved that in Florida--at least compared to the nation's leading Democrat-run city, which has higher percentages of the ethnicities that are most prone, we agree, to commit those murders.
5) So the conclusion must be that "other factors" beyond "urban, POC, Dem-led" are involved. And GOPers will cherry-pick a different city (Chicago is a frequent choice, though it's actually not the deadliest) and ignore an example like New York, so that they can continue to demonize "urban, POC, Dem-led" and not take a hard look at what those other factors might be--because they might be confronted with tough facts that they don't like.
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