That's a naive way of looking at media lies. It's been known since yesterday that the woman paid for her bike. NBC knew this, and intentionally chose not to include this information.
NBC runs a story that while not false and not requiring a correction, probably should not have run, or least told differently. Bad news judgment.
I still criticize it, willingly.
On the other hand.
Fox and all of right wing media run months of intentionally false stories alleging massive election fraud, knowing that the stories were false, and so far Fox has had to pay nearly a billion dollars to make it go away and fire tucker carlson. And there is more paying to come.
But to my knowledge you are unwilling to criticize fox or any right wing media for any of that.
You starting to see the problem here? You are unreasonable.
No, Baghdad agip.
PMSNBC, CNN & the alphabet networks lied to you about Covington kids, COVID vaccines, MLK bust being removed from the Oval Office, crackhead Hunter's laptop being Russian disinformation...and so on and so on with NO basis in fact what-so-ever.
The past 6 years both the independent media & right wing media have been far more factual than the left wing media.
By using common reading comprehension skills and appreciating the context in which posts were made.
This really isn't difficult. They whole exchange is in a few sentences set forth in 3-4 posts over 2 pages, including this one. I'm just wondering why you asked this rhetorical question -- "Do national media outlets usually cover "localized racial hate crimes?"" which is saying that national media outlets do not cover, as I suggested they do, local racial hate crimes. "Why would they?" I believe you also posted. Those are rhetorical questions - affirmative statements framed as inquiries.
But two posts down from that you were admitting, in response to another post, that national media outlets DO cover racial hate crimes in certain instances, but the national media's "double standards" (your words) was justified for unexpressed reasons that you suggested I and "Academic Discussion" weren't bright enough to understand. "I'm hoping some day one of you stumbles into understanding why the double standards exist in the first place" is what I believe you typed.
So I was just wondering why you contradicted yourself within the space of two posts. That's all.
Hope this helps. It's been way too long since I've done acid.
Blow H: wrote:
Then you get caught up in this and put a whole bunch of other words in my mouth along the way, like saying that I think the double standard is "justified" and that I think you're not smart enough to understand why the double standard exists. I think you are smart enough, and justified is a weird word to use. I don't think of it as justified or not justified. It's just cause and effect.
You said this in explaining the national media's "double standard" (your words): "I'm hoping some day one of you stumbles into understanding why the double standards exist in the first place."
So you are suggesting that the reason for the "double standard" is something I am unaware of and may stumble across some day. You don't think highly of my observational powers or analytical thinking, if you believe I don't have the "understanding" you reference.
Also, there is nothing wrong with the word "justified" in this context. The "understanding" you mention would be an explanation of the high level determinations the national media makes as to what kinds of racial crimes they will and will not report. The "understanding" that the national media has (and that I apparently lack) would be the reason or "justification" for their decisions.
"Cause and effect" would be a weird way to describe those national media decisions. "Cause and effect" seems to eliminate any kind of human decision making or judgment from this, making the phenomena we are discussing (certain race crimes get reported, others don't) more a natural result of some scientific law, than a moral value judgment made by people.
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Hope this helps. It's been way too long since I've done acid.
Blow H: wrote:
Then you get caught up in this and put a whole bunch of other words in my mouth along the way, like saying that I think the double standard is "justified" and that I think you're not smart enough to understand why the double standard exists. I think you are smart enough, and justified is a weird word to use. I don't think of it as justified or not justified. It's just cause and effect.
You said this in explaining the national media's "double standard" (your words): "I'm hoping some day one of you stumbles into understanding why the double standards exist in the first place."
So you are suggesting that the reason for the "double standard" is something I am unaware of and may stumble across some day. You don't think highly of my observational powers or analytical thinking, if you believe I don't have the "understanding" you reference.
Also, there is nothing wrong with the word "justified" in this context. The "understanding" you mention would be an explanation of the high level determinations the national media makes as to what kinds of racial crimes they will and will not report. The "understanding" that the national media has (and that I apparently lack) would be the reason or "justification" for their decisions.
"Cause and effect" would be a weird way to describe those national media decisions. "Cause and effect" seems to eliminate any kind of human decision making or judgment from this, making the phenomena we are discussing (certain race crimes get reported, others don't) more a natural result of some scientific law, than a moral value judgment made by people.
There are extremely intelligent people who are Nazis. I hope they stumble upon something someday that makes them not a Nazi, be it empathy or psilocybin or whatever.
The news is not making decisions based on morals. They are making business decisions. What gets air time depends on the moral viewpoints and perspectives of the viewer more than anything.
A Texas militia member was sentenced Friday to nearly five years in prison for attacking police officers at the U.S. Capitol, seriously injuring one of them during a mob’s attack on Jan. 6, 2021.
You said this in explaining the national media's "double standard" (your words): "I'm hoping some day one of you stumbles into understanding why the double standards exist in the first place."
So you are suggesting that the reason for the "double standard" is something I am unaware of and may stumble across some day. You don't think highly of my observational powers or analytical thinking, if you believe I don't have the "understanding" you reference.
Also, there is nothing wrong with the word "justified" in this context. The "understanding" you mention would be an explanation of the high level determinations the national media makes as to what kinds of racial crimes they will and will not report. The "understanding" that the national media has (and that I apparently lack) would be the reason or "justification" for their decisions.
"Cause and effect" would be a weird way to describe those national media decisions. "Cause and effect" seems to eliminate any kind of human decision making or judgment from this, making the phenomena we are discussing (certain race crimes get reported, others don't) more a natural result of some scientific law, than a moral value judgment made by people.
There are extremely intelligent people who are Nazis. I hope they stumble upon something someday that makes them not a Nazi, be it empathy or psilocybin or whatever.
Affirming Godwin's law, I see. Whether you think I'm a Nazi or not has nothing to do with (1) the word "justification" was appropriately used in context, and (2) the fact that I do have the "understanding" you referred to (but never described).
Blow Hunter wrote:
The news is not making decisions based on morals. They are making business decisions. What gets air time depends on the moral viewpoints and perspectives of the viewer more than anything.
I hope you have the understanding that what you just expressed is what Trump fans continuously say about people like you and the decision makers in the national media -- that you are being fed exactly what the media thinks you want to consume, irrespective of its value as news.
How cynical of you. As if the accounting/revenue departments at the major new networks have run the numbers and determined that, e.g., stories like the death of Trayvon Martin will generate significantly more cash per page than the murder of Lawrence Herr could. I just don't see that. This cynical "it's all about money" bit. I think there are other reasons for the specific news reporting decisions that you and I both agree are being made. Like maybe the national media has the "understanding" you say I don't have.
Fox comes cloooose to a correction and retraction of the veteran eviction story but isn’t there yet. The story dominated their coverage for a day. Rubes.
Fox acknowledges a story they ran wild with miiiiight have been a hoax
"We are now looking into new reports that a veterans advocate misled lawmakers, and media outlets, about a story that some homeless men may have been hired to pose as veterans"
Fox comes cloooose to a correction and retraction of the veteran eviction story but isn’t there yet. The story dominated their coverage for a day. Rubes.
Democratic states California, New York, Illinois and Oregon all saw their populations fall in the year to July 2022, while Texas and Florida grew rapidly.
I don't see a correction either. NBC has neglected to correct it. They also pushed out a new story and neglected to include yesterday's information.
Hear ye
hear ye
i hearby criticize the bad reporting on the bikeshare story.
i also think bill Clinton messed up badly with the intern.
I also think joe is too old
i think the Dems focus way too much on race and not enough on ideals.
your turn!
No one took up your challenge. Those on the right have been fed such a steady stream of lies from Fox, from elected leaders, from popular far right media personalities that they are unable to start to open the flood gates and admit when they have been lied to. I honestly expect little from these sources. I also didn't expect those on the right to admit to anything.
But I am very disappointed in NBC's outright deception on this story. I don't care if a lawyer would claim that nothing was technically wrong in the article, if they left out information with the purpose to mislead the reader, that is appalling. Truthfully, the mainstream media has the greatest difficulty presenting complete and unbiased information regarding stories about race and Trump. Trump has been a constitution busting conman, that's bad for democracy and the media strongly wants to expose him. This causes them to slant coverage of Trump. The media is also strongly motivated to expose racism and that also causes them to slant their coverage in many different ways. The bikeshare story is an example.
What’s one good clue that President Joe Biden really intends to run for reelection in 2024? He is trying to distance himself from the Democratic Party’s soft approach to crime.
A Texas militia member was sentenced Friday to nearly five years in prison for attacking police officers at the U.S. Capitol, seriously injuring one of them during a mob’s attack on Jan. 6, 2021.
A Texas militia member was sentenced Friday to nearly five years in prison for attacking police officers at the U.S. Capitol, seriously injuring one of them during a mob’s attack on Jan. 6, 2021.
How serious?
Level 7 on the Throckstone scale.
The individual being sentenced is Donald "Hazzie" Hazard. He is from Texas. He will be incarcerated for a term not to exceed 57 months in the Federal Bureau of Prisons. While in custody, he will have a chance to reflect on his misdeeds. Perhaps some penitence. He will also have access to rehabilitative programs, including drug and alcohol treatment. So if Hazzie was out getting all gooned up every night in the free world, in prison he can hear people tell him that he has to knock that off when he gets out. Now, if I'm Hazzie, the first thing I do when I get out of prison is head to a bar and start shotgunning beers. You know what I mean? I mean Jesus Christ, give the guy a break. He was in prison for 57 goddam months.
There are extremely intelligent people who are Nazis. I hope they stumble upon something someday that makes them not a Nazi, be it empathy or psilocybin or whatever.
Affirming Godwin's law, I see. Whether you think I'm a Nazi or not has nothing to do with (1) the word "justification" was appropriately used in context, and (2) the fact that I do have the "understanding" you referred to (but never described).
Blow Hunter wrote:
The news is not making decisions based on morals. They are making business decisions. What gets air time depends on the moral viewpoints and perspectives of the viewer more than anything.
I hope you have the understanding that what you just expressed is what Trump fans continuously say about people like you and the decision makers in the national media -- that you are being fed exactly what the media thinks you want to consume, irrespective of its value as news.
How cynical of you. As if the accounting/revenue departments at the major new networks have run the numbers and determined that, e.g., stories like the death of Trayvon Martin will generate significantly more cash per page than the murder of Lawrence Herr could. I just don't see that. This cynical "it's all about money" bit. I think there are other reasons for the specific news reporting decisions that you and I both agree are being made. Like maybe the national media has the "understanding" you say I don't have.
Nazi is just an example. I had a few more written out but deleted them to keep my point concise. The point is whether or not I think you understand something is not related to how intelligent I think you are. There are extremely smart Christians and extremely smart Atheists and yet only one of them can be right. That doesn’t make the Christians stupid. (joking)
And of course it’s about money. I don’t think that’s a particularly cynical thing to think. If I’m trying to get people to watch my channel, I’m going to show them content that they want to see. I think it would be more cynical to believe that news agencies are trying to deploy morals from the top down as if they are trying to mind control the population or assert political correctness or something. Is that along the lines of what you believe?
Remember, the ‘conservatives’ are the party of individual freedom. If you want a gun. But they will totally tell you what clothes you can and cannot wear. Totally makes sense.
NEW: A Mississippi school district can forbid a transgender student from attending her graduation unless she wears male-designated attire instead of a dress under her robe, a Trump-appointed federal judge ruled tonight.
