Frank Meza 2:53:10 at LA Marathon (70 years old) unofficial time (just finished)

Working on another article. Maybe tomorrow or Wednesday.

rojo wrote:

PS. The challenge is kind of pointless. I'd bet big bucks Meza will cite some sort of health condition and never run a major race again.

agreed! How about the majority of resources be put into an effort to get the LA Marathon and Phoenix Marathon to enforce their rules and DQ? Rojo, it would be great if Letsrun used its bully pulpit and --if needed--apply any $$$ 's to do just that. I think the running world lead by LetsRun should be the sober ones in this process: Frank Meza cheated at 2 marathons that have not DQ'd him and then lied about it. Let's force these races to do so immediately. Why is CIM the only one to do the right thing? We can speculate on the others to till Frank comes home. Or how about putting resources into getting more info (i.e. a reward for tangible hard evidence) about his other very questionable races like Long Beach, Oakland, Santa Clarita in 2007, Pasadena etc. ? That's where the money should go. thanks for getting into the mix.

That's true. wrote:

Scott Dominguez' Dog, Ralph wrote:

There are lots of Scott Dominguez' in the world.

Good point.

At no time has this 'Scott Dominguez' said he's THE 'Scott Dominguez'.

What's up with LA wrote:

elephino wrote:

Can a sportswriter be sued for accusing an athlete of cheating?

Meza was competing in public sporting events.

Anybody can sue anybody for anything. Winning is another story.

An opinion based on disclosed facts isn't libel. There is no case against Derek. California has a strong anti-slapp law, any lawyer who is not a moran would advise Frank not to sue, Frank would have to pay all Derek's legal bills.

Scott Dominguez might have a tenuous case against the poster who registered his name. I wouldn't expect it to succeed but it might not get laughed out of court. To the poster going as Scott Dominguez, it's not a good idea to poke lawyers with a stick.

So, if it really WERE Scott D., he's going to send a deputy to Cincinnati? On whose dime? "What's up..." said "An opinion based on disclosed facts isn't libel." Correct. Derek has been extremely careful on the wording of his posts, and I gotta believe the LA DA's office has more important fish to fry. And the registered user of "Scott Dominguez," if not the ADA Scott, is only tickling lawyers with a feather. Bunch of crybabies, Frank surrounds himself with.

doubler wrote:

Working on another article. Maybe tomorrow or Wednesday.

I can't wait. I've been checking MI every couple of hours...

brooklyn123 wrote:

How about the majority of resources be put into an effort to get the LA Marathon and Phoenix Marathon to enforce their rules and DQ? Rojo, it would be great if Letsrun used its bully pulpit...

Would be counter productive, LA would just dig their heels in out of spite:

Scott Dominguez' Dog, Ralph wrote:

doubler wrote:

Working on another article. Maybe tomorrow or Wednesday.

I can't wait. I've been checking MI every couple of hours...

Between dish licking, walks in the park, arse sniffing and sleeping.

A Point of order your honor wrote:

Scott Dominguez wrote:

I do not have the time to respond to trolls at this point. Those guilty of slander will be held accountable and definitive proof showing Frank did in fact run the times in question will be released at the appropriate time.

Obviously you are the DA and I'm just a Judge Judy watcher but slander is spoken, libel is written. Where was that law degree again?

he's certainly no AOL lawyer thats for sure.

Frank needs to find himself some better representation.

I don’t think it’s the LA DA. To much emotion, and that stupid mistake confusing slander with libel, that’s first year stuff. Why would he put his career on the line by posting publicly on this site, not acknowledging any available evidence, defending the allegations by saying he knows the guy and he’s innocent, saying he has proof that will stop this whole thing, then doesn’t have time to provide it. The intimidation thing is nice, saw that on an episode of LA Law.

Scott Dominguez' Dog, Ralph's owner. Please don't sue me. ? wrote:

...walks in the park?

You and I both know you're too lazy for that.

Time to zero in on Scott too. wrote:

[quote]Honest question wrote:

[quote]Scott Dominguez wrote:

Yes time to get those emails heading to Scott's bosses too. Misusing his status to try and intimidate the public from scrutinising the actions of his shady friend. I think that there could be a much bigger story here for the right reporter as well...

Frank Meza perhaps feigned modesty, when he really wanted admiration for his accomplishments. This was possibly because he knew this kind of exposure could result from widespread awareness. I must have told 50 people about the amazing Frank Meza and his marathon career. Only 1 person knew of FM. I met him at this years Seal Beach Run in a 10k. A 68 year old who ran 40:10. Beat me by 2 minutes. He knew FM was a coach at Loyola. He also was aware of this thread. FM went to great lengths to accomplish so much, but really accomplish nothing that would be noticed much. Making sure to run his fastest known times for 70-74 at ineligible courses. Just my speculation and one guess as to what has been going on all this time. FM truly believes right now that the "evidence is not irrefutable enough for him to not get away with the standard criminal mantra, "deny, deny, deny".

I doubt the brojos didn't know about this thread weeks ago. I posted something in the first 5 pages and a moderator deleted it.

FM may have hired a reputation repair service. There's little they can do for him, but supporting him online is one way to make it look like they're earning their money. I think Kip tried that, too. Didn't work.

Any distance challenge, and any prize amount, and any charity or FM himself will do.

No way did others at the high school not know about this.

Does anybody have the link to FM saying he has to retire due to a heart condition? Of course it's bs.

FM needs a wiki for all of his races. This guys is as big and fascinating as kip.

I love it when these cheats dig their heels in. It makes their inevitable demise so much more entertaining.

I mean blind Freddy could see that this guy cheated, why deny it and make it worse?

You must be new here. wrote:

brooklyn123 wrote:

How about the majority of resources be put into an effort to get the LA Marathon and Phoenix Marathon to enforce their rules and DQ? Rojo, it would be great if Letsrun used its bully pulpit...

Would be counter productive, LA would just dig their heels in out of spite:

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9306534

Ok. possibly.

Wouldn't them not DQ-ing Meza make Rojo right? prove him wrong and DQ

The OAG requires written permission before any lawyer employed by the Office can practice privately on a matter. Would be a simple matter of contacting the OAG and asking if Scott Dominguez has been granted permission to act on behalf of Frank Meza as he is purporting to do.

The person posting as Scott Dominguez demonstrates a grossly flawed comprehension of even the most basic of legal principles (and this is coming from someone who practices on the other side of the world), I think that it's extraordinarily unlikely that he/she is who they claim to be. If in fact they are a DA I do not imagine that the OAG would look kindly upon ill founded and factually incorrect threats being posted to a public forum, it would be difficult to envisage a scenario where the OAG would consider that particular DA to be a fit and proper person to continue in their current position.

The funny thing is that these threats of litigation are exactly what the majority of people would love to see occur, there are few things as satisfying as seeing a liar and con artist publicly unravel on the stand. Litigation 101, don't make threats that the other party is amenable to! The exposure and recognition that such a case would bring to Derek would be incredible and I'm sure he would have little trouble in crowd sourcing the costs of his defence.

The simple fact is that nobody is going to be suing anybody, if this gets anywhere near a courtroom it is going to open a huge can of worms and there will be a lot of dirty laundry aired. I think Frank's apparent sympathisers might have a change of heart when they realise what their support will actually entail.

Scott Dominguez wrote:

I do not have the time to respond to trolls at this point. Those guilty of slander will be held accountable and definitive proof showing Frank did in fact run the times in question will be released at the appropriate time.

Speaking of "the appropriate time", I like to have recovery time between my marathons. I guess Frank does not.

1/19/2014 Carlsbad Marathon 3:05:31

2/2/2014 Surf City Marathon 3:04:45

3/9/2014 LA Marathon 2:59:10

Three sub 3:06 marathons in 49 days. And the first two 14 days apart? At age 65?

Yeah....

Recovery Time Genius wrote:

Scott Dominguez wrote:

I do not have the time to respond to trolls at this point. Those guilty of slander will be held accountable and definitive proof showing Frank did in fact run the times in question will be released at the appropriate time.

Speaking of "the appropriate time", I like to have recovery time between my marathons. I guess Frank does not.

1/19/2014 Carlsbad Marathon 3:05:31

2/2/2014 Surf City Marathon 3:04:45

3/9/2014 LA Marathon 2:59:10

Three sub 3:06 marathons in 49 days. And the first two 14 days apart? At age 65?

Yeah....

It's gotta be the 100 mile weeks, just like most 65 year olds.

And note how each race is incrementally faster...

Recovery Time Genius wrote:

Scott Dominguez wrote:

I do not have the time to respond to trolls at this point. Those guilty of slander will be held accountable and definitive proof showing Frank did in fact run the times in question will be released at the appropriate time.

Speaking of "the appropriate time", I like to have recovery time between my marathons. I guess Frank does not.

1/19/2014 Carlsbad Marathon 3:05:31

2/2/2014 Surf City Marathon 3:04:45

3/9/2014 LA Marathon 2:59:10

Three sub 3:06 marathons in 49 days. And the first two 14 days apart? At age 65?

Yeah....

Would love to see the definitive proof on those three.

At 65 years old looking like he does lol.

2014 Carlsbad Marathon 3:05:31

2014 Surf City Marathon 3:04:45

(Total of two photos lol, one before the start, one after with his Loyola High pal Phillip Bland)

2014 LA Marathon 2:59:10

Recovery Time Genius wrote:

Scott Dominguez wrote:

I do not have the time to respond to trolls at this point. Those guilty of slander will be held accountable and definitive proof showing Frank did in fact run the times in question will be released at the appropriate time.

Speaking of "the appropriate time", I like to have recovery time between my marathons. I guess Frank does not.

1/19/2014 Carlsbad Marathon 3:05:31

2/2/2014 Surf City Marathon 3:04:45

3/9/2014 LA Marathon 2:59:10

Three sub 3:06 marathons in 49 days. And the first two 14 days apart? At age 65?

Yeah....

.ha, ha, ha. ...and the hits keep on coming. And nobody at Loyola questioned this BS?