Official Brett Kavanaugh confirmation thread

Sniffling wrote:

asdghj wrote:

.... the end game for Democrats is to delay, delay, delay and win the Senate in the midterms.

But you are okay with the Republican's tactic to delay, delay, delay and win the Presidency before allowing a nominated SCOTUS to be heard from.

This. Interesting because Kennedy was appointed by Reagan and confirmed February of 1988....election year. But those were less partisan times.

Dems can’t delay forever though.

In reality Trump has appointed two judges taking over for two GOP appointed judges. SCOTUS judges also have a tendency to move their ideology over time anyway.

Alan

Flagpole wrote:

rojo wrote:

One other thing, everyone talks about it being a lifetime appointment. That's not true .

They could confirm him now. Do an FBI investigation at the same time. If that comes back with some bad evidence, he'd easily be impeached. You can remove a SC justice with 2/3rds vote. If the guy is a gang rapist, everyone would want him out.

True...and I think that could happen, especially with Avenatti's client. Of course, it it HARDER to go that route, and who knows what decisions he might make before then.

You are deluded by your partisanship.

Flagpole wrote:

True...and I think that could happen, especially with Avenatti's client. Of course, it it HARDER to go that route, and who knows what decisions he might make before then.

The Avenatti allegations are ridiculous on their face. A woman who graduated high school in 1980 (a long ways from where Kavanaugh lived) was for some reason attending at least ten parties in the early 1980s with high school students where women were routinely being gang raped? And she kept going until she was raped? There's a reason that most Democrats have ignored these allegations.

Sniffling wrote:

asdghj wrote:

.... the end game for Democrats is to delay, delay, delay and win the Senate in the midterms.

But you are okay with the Republican's tactic to delay, delay, delay and win the Presidency before allowing a nominated SCOTUS to be heard from.

Interesting that you would categorize what I'm okay with. I haven't commented at all on the Merrick Garland nomination. Note the huge distinction here is that Republicans controlled the Senate in the Garland case. When in the minority, the Republicans have never filibustered a Democratic Supreme Court nominee.

I thought at the time, the Democrats made a mistake in trying to filibuster Gorsuch. The public generally wasn't opposed to him, while Trump certainly wasn't popular, it was early in his administration and the public in general was more in a mood to give him a pass then they are now. If they had not tried to filibuster Gorsuch, they'd still have the filibuster available. Sure, the Republicans would take it away, but there would have been a lot bigger political price now.

800 dude wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

True...and I think that could happen, especially with Avenatti's client. Of course, it it HARDER to go that route, and who knows what decisions he might make before then.

The Avenatti allegations are ridiculous on their face. A woman who graduated high school in 1980 (a long ways from where Kavanaugh lived) was for some reason attending at least ten parties in the early 1980s with high school students where women were routinely being gang raped? And she kept going until she was raped? There's a reason that most Democrats have ignored these allegations.

An example of Flagpole’s lack of even elementary thinking evidently clouded by his partisanship.

Now Orin Hatch is giving Kavanaugh a pass for being a kid.

Hatch is also lying about who leaked Ford's name. That was the White House.

Runningart2004 wrote:

This. Interesting because Kennedy was appointed by Reagan and confirmed February of 1988....election year. But those were less partisan times.

True. Joe Biden didn't establish the Biden Rule until 1992.

Sniffling wrote:

Now Orin Hatch is giving Kavanaugh a pass for being a kid.

Hatch is also lying about who leaked Ford's name. That was the White House.

Hatch just claimed that Kavanaugh had eyewitnesses to the events in the room, who were not in the room, that prove that an attempted rape did not happen.

Joe Biden 26 years ago wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

This. Interesting because Kennedy was appointed by Reagan and confirmed February of 1988....election year. But those were less partisan times.

True. Joe Biden didn't establish the Biden Rule until 1992.

More true is that McConnell did not establish the McConnell rule--only 51 votes, no filibustering, to push the approval vote closer to 60--until 2017.

The male GOP committee members have thrown their female prosecutor to the curb. It is now a 100% male GOP showfest.

Male GOP Senator, Lee, is now complaining that the FBI has already investigated everything necessary. And he just said that "if Democrats" want to hear from live witnesses why missed that opportunity. He is completely ignoring that it the GOP members who have refused to allow a FBI investigation.

Joe Biden 26 years ago wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

This. Interesting because Kennedy was appointed by Reagan and confirmed February of 1988....election year. But those were less partisan times.

True. Joe Biden didn't establish the Biden Rule until 1992.

You know then Biden Rule isn’t really a thing right? It was just Biden complaining that Bush appointed Thomas, who was then confirmed under Clinton.

When has a SCOTUS appointment been delayed because of a presidential election?

Alan

Sniffling wrote:

The male GOP committee members have thrown their female prosecutor to the curb. It is now a 100% male GOP showfest.

I suppose your hero is the weasel Blumenthal.

Sniffling wrote:

Male GOP Senator, Lee, is now complaining that the FBI has already investigated everything necessary. And he just said that "if Democrats" want to hear from live witnesses why missed that opportunity. He is completely ignoring that it the GOP members who have refused to allow a FBI investigation.

There already been an FBI investigation, Ford can make a formal accusation in Maryland if she likes and Maryland police can investigate but she hasn't done so.

Kavanaugh is not able to answer questions. He deflects. He interrupts the Democratic Senators. And does not allow then to finish their ask questions before interrupting.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Sniffling wrote:

The male GOP committee members have thrown their female prosecutor to the curb. It is now a 100% male GOP showfest.

I suppose your hero is the weasel Blumenthal.

Funny to hear Blumenthal talk about credibility. "false in one, false in all.". Umm, like when he lied about serving in Viet Nam.?

This whole thing could have been avoided if DJT had just nominated himself for the Supreme Court.

No one is smarter than him, so why are we settling for second rate candidates?

I don’t think this hearing has changed the opinion of anyone to what they held yesterday.

Trump2020OPthe real one... wrote:

She believes what she said.

He believes what he says.

Emotion does not make one guilty or innocent.

Evidence goes on his side.

Democrats are still lowesome vile miscreants bringing this country down with their power hungry actions.

M.A.G.A.

I.B.B.K

S.O.W.P.

On that very last point -- are we forgetting that Republicans would not allow a hearing for Merrick Garland? Do we forget that Trump nominated Kavanaugh because Kavanaugh is a political operative that would help protect Trump from the crimes he has committed.

Dr. Ford remembers what happened. She is a patriot. She relived that awfulness. Republicans have refused to bring Mark Judge in and have refused to have the FBI investigate this. Why? They know it won't end well. It's all very political. The fact of the matter is that Kavanaugh is a joke. He's yelled, interrupted, insulted, made every excuse he can possibly think of. He's lied about small things. He's straight outta the Trump playbook. Deny, deny, deny, facts don't matter, if people don't believe him they've been watching the fake news media. It's garbage. He looks like a child. And he gets that pass for being a rich, white, entitled, male. Imagine this behavior from your anti-God Hillary Clinton. You would have held her to the fire four acting even 1% this way.

Sexual assault is serious. We need to teach men about consent. Teach men not to assault. Women are paying attention to the Republican response to this whole thing. Young people are paying attention. What they've done out there is not bringing over any new supporters. It's going to be harder and harder for Republicans to win elections when they act like this.