Kara Goucher unloads on Alberto Salazar, Galen Rupp and the NOP - "Justice is coming."

It's profanity...my mom swore like a sailor when I was kid. It's not a big deal.

JAXDUKE wrote:

I seem to recall part of the Goucher's , alleged,motivation on coming forward with doping allegations was to protect the integrity of the sport for future generations . Kara Goucher played the I'am doing this for my kid (Cole )

card repeatedly. I would like to pose a question to Mrs. Goucher , the mom.

Is your most recent ,vulgarity laced interview , something you would like your

child to view - or for that matter any young aspiring distance runners?

it will soon come out that the allegations against NOP are that they have been micro dosing systematically for years while making perfectly sure that testosterone and other levels never rise above legal limits. Kara (and Adam, etc.) were just as involved in micro dosing as Galen was/is. That's it. That's all she's got, and she'll be implicating herself too. This is the grey area that Alberto is so intrigued by - if I can't be above this level, that means I can be just barely below and still be legal. I'm surprised no one knows/speculates this already.

For the record, I have no problem with micro dosing, I think all athletes should do it, and I am a fan of Rupp and the NOP.

Inside scoop wrote:

it will soon come out that the allegations against NOP are that they have been micro dosing systematically for years while making perfectly sure that testosterone and other levels never rise above legal limits. Kara (and Adam, etc.) were just as involved in micro dosing as Galen was/is. That's it. That's all she's got, and she'll be implicating herself too. This is the grey area that Alberto is so intrigued by - if I can't be above this level, that means I can be just barely below and still be legal. I'm surprised no one knows/speculates this already.

For the record, I have no problem with micro dosing, I think all athletes should do it, and I am a fan of Rupp and the NOP.

Were you aware that the whistle blowers against Armstrong all got light off-season sentences, while Armstrong got a lifetime ban? Yes they all used. Different ban rules are used for different levels of assistance with an investigation.

Wrong, I am Alberto's son.

If you really are then you must be really upset to argue against your Dad.

Daddy complex wrote:

Wrong, I am Alberto's son.

If you really are then you must be really upset to argue against your Dad.

Dad doesn't post on LRC. His children do to help dad with his public relations.

And as Salazar and the Rupps drove off in their NOP-sticker-adorned minivan, Kara Goucher killed the nameless running website interviewer and screamed out to the LetsRun and FloTrack interviewers backing away quickly, "You tell Salazar justice is coming, you tell them I'm coming, and Hell's coming with me."

Inside scoop wrote:

This is the grey area that Alberto is so intrigued by - if I can't be above this level, that means I can be just barely below and still be legal. I'm surprised no one knows/speculates this already.

I'm surprise that you're "surprised no one knows/speculates this already", which sand pile have you had your head buried in?, it's been speculated about rightly or wrongly for friggin years.

Get ya head out the sand. wrote:

Inside scoop wrote:

This is the grey area that Alberto is so intrigued by - if I can't be above this level, that means I can be just barely below and still be legal. I'm surprised no one knows/speculates this already.

I'm surprise that you're "surprised no one knows/speculates this already", which sand pile have you had your head buried in?, it's been speculated about rightly or wrongly for friggin years.

haha Mr Clever Inside Scoop brings us something only he knows "it will soon come out that the allegations against NOP are that they have been micro dosing systematically for years" and "surprised no one knows/speculates this already"

Thanks for nothing pal.

Let's just get the facts. we could see this again at USAs. When we do, Rojo, please ask Kara the following or try to ask Adam::

1. When you say you want them to stop "it" what exactly is "it" and did you witness "it"? If not, who did? And was it done by Rupp and only Rupp?

2. Can you addres Alberto's rebuttal of what you said to BBC? If not, why?

3. Is there a legal reason that you cannot share the specifics of what you shared with USADA? If not, why can't you share the details now when you tell us justice is coming?

4. Why did you wait l 2013 to go to USADA when you stopped working with Slazar in 2011?

Follow up questions wrote:

Let's just get the facts. we could see this again at USAs. When we do, Rojo, please ask Kara the following or try to ask Adam::

1. When you say you want them to stop "it" what exactly is "it" and did you witness "it"? If not, who did? And was it done by Rupp and only Rupp?

2. Can you addres Alberto's rebuttal of what you said to BBC? If not, why?

3. Is there a legal reason that you cannot share the specifics of what you shared with USADA? If not, why can't you share the details now when you tell us justice is coming?

4. Why did you wait l 2013 to go to USADA when you stopped working with Slazar in 2011?

5.Why is NOP'S innocence so important to me that I have to come to the conclusion that all fellow athletes, doctors, journalist who speak up against them are a bunch of psychopathic liars.

Please proofread your own post. If something hasn't come out, then they are not allegations to begin with. Look, this is not that hard. When Lance Armstrong was accused of doping, it was because a source said they saw Armstrong and his teammates doping. If Salazar was microdosing, and Goucher is so sure of it, why doesn't she just come out and say it. Assuming for the moment it is illegal. I guess you are trying to say that Goucher is walking some tightrope where she wanted to start a USADA investigation and for NOP to be busted but she didn't want to implicate herself. I suppose that is possible but that is a little crazy. A much more more simple and rationale theory is that Goucher has told everything. She only has withheld more details of the same allegations she has already gone public with. She expects that, along with the Magness allegations, as being enough to bring NOP down. But that is highly doubtful. I highly suspect that the hidden story, if there is one, is that Salazar got approval from the USADA in about everything he did. See the WADA official who said that so much of what people think is "doping" is really just the medication of T&F and there is nothing wrong with it. The USADA says it disagrees with that, but they are probably backtracking in the face of athletes and certain apparel companies coming forth and playing the purist card. Now the USADA is trying to figure a way out without offending certain corporate interests.

Inside scoop wrote:

it will soon come out that the allegations against NOP are that they have been micro dosing systematically for years while making perfectly sure that testosterone and other levels never rise above legal limits. Kara (and Adam, etc.) were just as involved in micro dosing as Galen was/is. That's it. That's all she's got, and she'll be implicating herself too. This is the grey area that Alberto is so intrigued by - if I can't be above this level, that means I can be just barely below and still be legal. I'm surprised no one knows/speculates this already.

For the record, I have no problem with micro dosing, I think all athletes should do it, and I am a fan of Rupp and the NOP.

Inside scoop wrote:

For the record, I have no problem with micro dosing, I think all athletes should do it, and I am a fan of Rupp and the NOP.

Micro-dosing is an artificial method of performance enhancement that is illegal and this means you support doping. Brojos should out you.

Did I call anyone a liar? I just want to hear what all of this is about.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

themanontherun wrote:

I don't think AlSal and Co. have done anything other than try to refute the claims against them.

Then you weren't reading the long threads about Salazar and NOP at all. Every other post was a personal attack.

Salazar's rambling explanation didn't fit with other facts at all. The response was always another personal attack.

As far as I'm aware, Salazar wasn't posting in those threads.

Seriously mate? wrote:

Who exactly from the NOP did she lose to today? Did Alberto hop in and give Shalane some andro-gel for the last mile? Galen Rupp might look goofy but he is still a male athlete.

How or why does Rupp look goofy?!

Whether it was the right time for Kara to talk about this or not, we all know one thing for sure.

Whenever there is so much suspicious evidence and people testifying, the chances are that it is true. Look at Lance Armstrong, Clemens, A-Rod, etc etc.

Those guys denied it strongly for years and had an explanation for everything just like Salazar does. But multiple people don't start accusing you like that for no reason. You don't mail unmarked pills in hollowed out books if they are legit. It is what it is.

themanontherun wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Then you weren't reading the long threads about Salazar and NOP at all. Every other post was a personal attack.

Salazar's rambling explanation didn't fit with other facts at all. The response was always another personal attack.

As far as I'm aware, Salazar wasn't posting in those threads.

The point is personal attacks were/are the primary response to NOP critics in this thread and others.

The fact remains Salazar's written response fails on basic fact checking after you weed out all of his personal attacks.

Roger wrote:

Whether it was the right time for Kara to talk about this or not, we all know one thing for sure.

Whenever there is so much suspicious evidence and people testifying, the chances are that it is true. Look at Lance Armstrong, Clemens, A-Rod, etc etc.

Those guys denied it strongly for years and had an explanation for everything just like Salazar does. But multiple people don't start accusing you like that for no reason. You don't mail unmarked pills in hollowed out books if they are legit. It is what it is.

Agree, 100%.

llort_vbo wrote:

themanontherun wrote:

[quote]wejo wrote:

The super hot thing is auto generated on the homepage and is based on how many people are reading a thread in a certain time period.

It would probably be a good idea to add the 'auto generated' label so it's clear. That said, I'm consistently stunned that people don't understand what that means by this point, and how often they make threads complaining about the Super Hot on the front page.

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I have a question about this. How come the Super Hot On Letsrun is there, and sometimes (like now) it's not. What qualifies it as HOT? When I first clicked on that link for this thread on Saturday, there were only 8 posts but there it was as SUPER HOT ON LETSRUN. I'd also add that the font size seemed to be bigger than at other times. It really did seems to be calling people to make it hot.