Very disingenuous response by you (yet again). Rapes do not differ and I didn't say they did.
Here is what I posted, which is QUITE different than how you, probably deliberately, misunderstood it directly above: "significant differences between US-Afghanistan and Russia-Ukraine even in those "areas" you listed with respect to frequency, acknowledgement, prevention, accountability, punishment and especially with respect to military policy . . ."
At the risk of further indulging your probably deliberate mischaracterization (strawman) of what I said, the difference is in, at least, each nation's respective handling of such atrocities and the frequency with which they occur. See above ("frequency, acknowledgement, prevention, accountability, punishment"). I think we can go further and say that rape, looting, murder and terrorizing civilians are part of Russian military strategy. There sure is an abundance of evidence that has accumulated since March that would support that assertion.
"frequency, acknowledgement, prevention, accountability, punishment and especially with respect to military policy"....
When your family members are killed or raped, you will not care what preventive measures supposedly have been taken or what the military policy says.
Moving to the perspective of family members is an appeal to emotion (logical fallacy), irrelevant to the discussion, and also another roundabout way of pretending I was saying the specific act of rape differs between soldiers of the two nations, which I never said. See above.
No, you cannot say, "that rape, looting, murder and terrorizing civilians are part of Russian military strategy", more than it is also the strategy of the US military.
Mounting evidence says you are wrong (as does common sense). There is a video and article above showing Russian soldiers shooting two elderly Ukrainian civilians in the back after they had been determined not to be a threat. Start there and work your way back through this thread and you will get a strong sense that is the standard operations of the Russian military, as opposed to actions by rogue soliders (unless you are Bad Wiggins and believe its all an elaborate CIA-Hollywood fake with crisis actors and photoshopped images, or that Ukrainian soldiers dressed up as Russians and shot their own citizens to gain more sympathy for Ukraine).
That is a terrible atrocity that made headline news in the US back in the day. According to the source you posted, the US soldiers involved were tried and convicted; Green got life sentence; in 2007, Barker, Cortez, Spielman all got 90+ years in prison; none have been paroled and likely will not be for many decades (if ever).
In a sense, you are proving my point above about "acknowledgement, prevention, accountability, and punishment" with respect to the US military and US society. You are also refuting your own previous and bogus points about the US media failing to report on such events. The footnotes to the Wikipedia page you cited, have multiple cites and links to NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. Here's more:
A U.S. soldier under court-martial at a Kentucky military base broke down in tears on Wednesday as he described how he and others planned the rape of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl, murdered along with her family.
Looks like you are all over the place, deflecting, exaggerating, contradicting yourself, passive-aggressive. You getting all Wiggy. You know what I mean?
So, just to be perfectly clear: you think Russia is wrong to invade Ukraine and Putin is a war criminal?
Will we also be arresting the Swiss bankers who help finance it all without asking any questions?
My answer depends on the judgement that should be equallly applied worldwide. Either Russia is wrong, but then so are the US, China and many other countries, or everything goes and the strong rule the weak.
And the question you (and carmine) have so far refused to answer is: which side do you come down on.
Do it the adult way. YOU write "the real reason of the US invasion in Afghanistan." And then if your analysis suffers from cheap cynicism, more whaddabboudyou?, unsupported facts and weird anti-America bias (all very likely), others can respond.
Just like i thought. You either do not know the real reason or your American pride is not letting you to out your country as a war criminal.
For you anything that goes to point out war crimes of the US is "unsupported facts". But when someone outs the US as a war criminal with "supported facts" and documents, they get prosecuted for treason, see Assange.
And you people sit here and talk about Russia like it has done something, the US hasn't done before. It's like prostitutes talking about how someone's a slut, simply disgusting.
Lolly, your posts remind me of Henry Higgins in My Fair Lady singing "why can't a woman be more like a man?" If only the US could refrain from its baser instincts and stick with dirty money (the Swiss banking industry is the most corrupt in the world), helping dictators and oligarchs fund their dirty tricks, and of course doing our best to keep out brown and black people, we might get your seal of approval. After all, adding an incentive to steal by providing a safe place for the loot isn't anything like stealing.
But while it may be pretty to suggest that Assange is getting prosecuted for treason for telling truths, the facts don't support it. Assange is a Australian citizen and has not been charged, and would not be charged, with treason against the United States. The pending indictment is for his part in a conspiracy to commit espionage to gain classified information. Surely the Swiss value and protect secrets as well, don't they?
New surveillance video obtained by CNN shows Russian soldiers shooting two civilians in the back, providing a stark example of a potential war crime by Russian forces.
Is there some NATO award for special service that we can give to 3-D chessmaster Putin? He has maneuvered Finland and Sweden into NATO applications, thus causing an increase in the situation he claims is a threat to Russia. While the consequence is in no way support for carmine9's absurd suggestion that the US and NATO have "surrounded" Russia, it isn't a development one would expect Putin to like.
I do wonder what would have happened if he had spend time before the Special Murder Operation trying to persuade Finland that this action was a 'one off', coupled with actually having the discipline in his forces to concentrate on the 'hearts and flowers' approach to Ukrainian citizens rather than the 'bullets and rape' approach. Perhaps the first was too hard of a sale because history over the past several decades shows that it likely isn't a 'one off'. And the second wasn't in the cards because the Russian approach to war seems to have institutionalized the 'bullets and rape'.
Oil, gas, influence, natural resources? None of those were the public or private reasons for Afghanistan. There was one reason, and it wasn't any of those and it wasn't to make Afghanistan better. It was the United States protecting its own territory by eliminating a group that had attacked the US in its territory. And in a ranking of reasons for a war, most honest people would put that towards the good end of the scale.
And to head off a side topic, I stipulate that like everyone else, the United States is incompetent in nation-building.
Dear God, so you do believe, that 3000 casualties during 9/11 justify 200.000 casualties in Afganistan in the span of 20 years?
If you are claiming 200,000 civilian casualties in Afghanistan attributable to US and NATO forces, that is a completely bogus claim, even over 20 years.
And you still have not set forth your opinion of "the real reason of the US invasion in Afghanistan." You claim to know the reason, but won't express it.
“International flights originating in Russia dropped from 1,126 per week when the war in Ukraine began on February 24 to 181 two weeks later, according to FlightRadar24. By the last week in April, international flights recovered to 379 for the week. Of these, 103 were to Turkey, with most of the remainder to a half-dozen former Soviet republics, including Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.”
Hey Russian dogs, I hope you like visiting Turkey and Arsehole-istan because those are you current and future travel options for the next decade.
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Wasn't all of Ukraine supposed to be occupied by Russian troops in a week? What are the Russians doing 10 weeks later getting blown up trying to cross a 30 meter wide river back east in Luhansk?
Seems the Russians tried a second river crossing at the same spot with the same disastrous results.
Carmine, do you think Russia was right to invade Ukraine?
Jimmy Dore = unwatchable moron. Of course, it’s where Carmine gets most of his info, which is why Carmine is wrong about everything he posts.
Ya think Rand Paul really didn't say that?
God you are dumb
Rand Paul is a member of the US Government. Rand Paul says the US government is the biggest purveyor of disinformation. Rand Paul is spreading disinformation.
Does Rand Paul support his statement with any facts? Any peer-reviewed studies? Or is this just another politician spouting off an uninformed opinion that you’ve latched onto because it supports your narrative?
Rand Paul is a member of the US Government. Rand Paul says the US government is the biggest purveyor of disinformation. Rand Paul is spreading disinformation.
Does Rand Paul support his statement with any facts? Any peer-reviewed studies? Or is this just another politician spouting off an uninformed opinion that you’ve latched onto because it supports your narrative?
Do you think Russia was right to invade Ukraine?
Rand Paul noted the McNamara and the Pentagon Papers, Bush's WMDs lie, the Steele dossier, Iran Contra.
You are honestly ignorant of these events?
How can you know so little about so many important events?
Rand Paul is a member of the US Government. Rand Paul says the US government is the biggest purveyor of disinformation. Rand Paul is spreading disinformation.
Does Rand Paul support his statement with any facts? Any peer-reviewed studies? Or is this just another politician spouting off an uninformed opinion that you’ve latched onto because it supports your narrative?
Do you think Russia was right to invade Ukraine?
Rand Paul noted the McNamara and the Pentagon Papers, Bush's WMDs lie, the Steele dossier, Iran Contra.
You are honestly ignorant of these events?
How can you know so little about so many important events?
Rand Paul is a member of the US Government. Rand Paul says the US government is the biggest purveyor of disinformation. Rand Paul is spreading disinformation.
Does Rand Paul support his statement with any facts? Any peer-reviewed studies? Or is this just another politician spouting off an uninformed opinion that you’ve latched onto because it supports your narrative?
Do you think Russia was right to invade Ukraine?
Rand Paul noted the McNamara and the Pentagon Papers, Bush's WMDs lie, the Steele dossier, Iran Contra.
You are honestly ignorant of these events?
How can you know so little about so many important events?
You've spread more disinformation in this thread than Rand Paul has in his whole career (and he lies for a living). It still doesn't prove that the US government is the biggest purveyor of disinformation.
Maybe if you had actually taken the time to summarize what the video said, people could actually respond. Nobody is going to watch Jimmy Dore rant for an hour.
Rand Paul noted the McNamara and the Pentagon Papers, Bush's WMDs lie, the Steele dossier, Iran Contra.
You are honestly ignorant of these events?
How can you know so little about so many important events?
You've spread more disinformation in this thread than Rand Paul has in his whole career (and he lies for a living). It still doesn't prove that the US government is the biggest purveyor of disinformation.
Maybe if you had actually taken the time to summarize what the video said, people could actually respond. Nobody is going to watch Jimmy Dore rant for an hour.
So does this mean you are ignorant of the historical events he referenced?
