Frank Meza 2:53:10 at LA Marathon (70 years old) unofficial time (just finished)

39:47 with 67 years of age for the first 10km are age graded 88.1%. in addition, consider what frank meza said about its own 10km capability in 2014 when he was disqualified at the CIM.

Yep. He, and his accomplices, needs to burn in hell for this.

still looking for evidence he cheated?

thats going to take a while cause he cheated a lot.

luckily it's already been unequivocally proven so you don't need to waste your time.

people are carrying on as if there's still doubt.

Seriously, Coach wrote:

Or cuts off the bottom of his bib (which contains the timing chip) and has it on a cord around his wrist

Just this one fact alone is enough for people who understand the issues to know what he is doing because there is only one reason anyone would do this.

Seriously! Frank, the house of cards is on fire and smoldering around you. Again, great cheater (until now) and horrible liar. Frank, you're abhorrent and why anyone let alone someone with any basic notion of distance running (Diaz?) would defend this guy is beyond me. Frank, Frank? fess up. You've made this worse by lying about the reasons for not "racing" LA (you've never really raced LA so therefore the need for quotation marks) and then "probably" cheating in Oakland.--seems so obvious. So funny.. Pathetic

So...? wrote:

What's your point? Sure it looks like the same guy, but bandit racing isn't illegal. BFD

As an RD myself my take on bandits is as long as they don't mess up the results by going through the finish claiming they lost their number/chip and then trying to get a finishers shirt I can just ignore them harmless idiots but I don't charge crazy entry money and I can see that races that do see banditting as theft.

Where did the story play in the L.A. Times print version this morning? Any changes from the online version?

maybe this wrote:

The 2016 Oakland marathon is an interesting case.

Here's video from the start line:

http://www.ktvu.com/morning-news/110426161-video

#135 on the start line finished with a chip time almost the same as FM. But FM started 1:47 after the gun went off. The video shows what that means. The fast runners take off (at 2:41 in the linked video). The slow runners take off. People wearing banana costumes take off. Walkers get going. The street is literally empty - the sweeper bicycle is disappearing in the distance at 4:00. Why would the sweeper bike start if someone was still on the starting line? The video ends at 4:10, 7 seconds before FM crosses the start line. According to the results, FM ran the first 10K split in 39:47, going through nearly 700 joggers and walkers at a pace of 6:25/mile.

This is great work.

What would be great, if someone had the time to do it, would be to compile a list of every known "Frank Anomaly", and write everything down in a single document. Just the facts, with sources (links to race results, photos, etc.). Waiting by the sidewalk, cutting off bib bottom, starting late, finishing fast, never appearing at mid-race photos or videos, covering his bib during pictures, giving his bib to his sister-in-law, carrying his timing chip around his wrist, DQs at CIM, retired doctor vs. manager of 100+ doctors, track scholarship or no track scholarship, etc., etc. There are so many red flags around FM, but many of them are spread around the 180 pages of this thread. I think if everything was compiled into a single document in a just-the-fact fashion, that document could be provided to a journalist/reporter and he/she could go from there.

I really think there is more than the cheating at marathons in this creeps life. Someone should find out if he really is a Doctor. Telling Amby that he supervises over 100 doctors to telling LA Times he is retired. Saying he was on scholarship in college for running yet not one teammate has come on here to confirm he was on any team. Strange.

His whole life is a fraud. There does not need to be more investigation involved with his running we know that answer. Now someone needs to investigate his college degrees and his whole resume.

I would pony up to a gofundme for someone. Actually, probably only derek from marathon investigation since he has street cred to do just that. Derek, you do that and I'll give plenty. This guy is the worst cheat in history:

Fred Gwynne wrote:

I really think there is more than the cheating at marathons in this creeps life. Someone should find out if he really is a Doctor. Telling Amby that he supervises over 100 doctors to telling LA Times he is retired. Saying he was on scholarship in college for running yet not one teammate has come on here to confirm he was on any team. Strange.

His whole life is a fraud. There does not need to be more investigation involved with his running we know that answer. Now someone needs to investigate his college degrees and his whole resume.

Yeah, he's a doctor.

So, too, evidently, is his kid. Must "run" in the family.....see what I did there?

Had to watch this oakland video a few times: I'm not amazed but indicates of course that he cheated in this race, too. watch the video:

As the original poster pointed out, there's no shot of Frank Meza at all in this live TV remote video from the start! The race starts at 7:10 AM, runner #817 hits the mat at 7:11:01, the sweeper bike goes by at approx 7:11:07 in TV remote goes blank from the start at 7:11:27 give or take a second: Frank Meza doesn't hit the mat until 07:11:47! Well, after the TV remote goes off the air I think my observations are correct.

FM ran the first 10K split in 39:47, going through nearly 700 joggers and walkers at a pace of 6:25/mile.! No way.

Also, I see there's a camera at the start. It's probable that they have them elsewhere on the course: Maybe Marathon Investigations can take another look at Oakland, too. Not sure who the RD is there but maybe they're a bit more vigilant post race than LA's been so far.

FRANK MEZA

Oakland Running Festival - 2016

MARATHON

Bib Number 222

MARATHON 10 of 787

Gender Place 9 of 502

M 65-69 1 of 10

Gender M

Age 67

Start Time 07:11:47

6.2 Mile 00:39:47

12.75 Mile 01:24:16

19.7 Mile 02:10:51

Elapsed 02:59:23

Pace 06:50 min/mile

Brooklyn,

Contacting that RD will do little good. Read the article on MI (linked in the quoted text) about the other runner Derek busted. They refused to DQ because they said it was too late, and that was 3 years ago.

Does anyone remember approximately how many races Kip was suspected of cheating at and over how many years? I wonder if FM has surpassed Kip.

bored troller wrote:

Brooklyn,

Contacting that RD will do little good. Read the article on MI (linked in the quoted text) about the other runner Derek busted. They refused to DQ because they said it was too late, and that was 3 years ago.

Ok. Thanks. I will

So I guess Oakland Marathon is another cheater's dream race.

At least it's more proof that he likely (definitely) cheated

GOAT cheater wrote:

Does anyone remember approximately how many races Kip was suspected of cheating at and over how many years? I wonder if FM has surpassed Kip.

Well Kip invented races too, at least 3 of those but on Study of Kip Litton Running there must be two dozen others

brooklyn123 wrote:

bored troller wrote:

Brooklyn,

Contacting that RD will do little good. Read the article on MI (linked in the quoted text) about the other runner Derek busted. They refused to DQ because they said it was too late, and that was 3 years ago.

Ok. Thanks. I will

So I guess Oakland Marathon is another cheater's dream race.

At least it's more proof that he likely (definitely) cheated

If you want to see the races that FM seems to have cheated at...start with the Disneyland HM. It is likely that FM started his cheating career in 2007. The reason was to wualify for the 2008 Boston Marathon. His Disneyland HM 2007 posted time is conceivable. Every road race thereafter is much less so. Except perhaps the Boston Marathon.

The entire allegations against Frank were exacerbated by Derek Murphy, an amateur investigator who needs money to pay for his apartment. Nice job guys! IF this is true, you are right, Frank would be an idiot to step foot on another race course and we will never see him on a course again. If it's not, then save your money Derek, your sponsors, potential clients and future employers will not want to touch you in the next few years because you spearheaded a smear campaign designed to drum up donations for your website by fucking with a man's reputation who didn't deserve it.

run4life23 wrote:

The entire allegations against Frank were exacerbated by Derek Murphy, an amateur investigator who needs money to pay for his apartment. Nice job guys! IF this is true, you are right, Frank would be an idiot to step foot on another race course and we will never see him on a course again. If it's not, then save your money Derek, your sponsors, potential clients and future employers will not want to touch you in the next few years because you spearheaded a smear campaign designed to drum up donations for your website by fucking with a man's reputation who didn't deserve it.

Frank's back! Hi Frank. Oh, here is one of Frank's first posts: Frankie, time's up.

run4life23

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What is the point of this post? He is a highly accomplished runner who doesn't seem to care for publicity and public accolades. This man was raised in East LA by a single immigrant mother who worked as a seamstress and spoke little English. To say that he and his mom were poor is an understatement. The fact that he became a successful doctor meant he already defeated the odds against him in life.

I know this man personally and I assure you, he runs because he loves it. He doesn't really care if anyone else notices or not. The disqualifications and missed mats happened because honestly (when you are a fast runner, the mats don't always pick up on the chips), he was a little upset, but shrugged it off. As far as pictures being taken, he doesn't even notice cameras or his bib may not have even been showing (like I said, he's a private guy and he knows what he can do).

Again, I never get the sense that he really cares whether or not the world thinks he's great. He's already doing great in many aspects of his life personally and professionally (not related to running). So, feel free to argue or be a non believer, I don't think he cares. But, I assure you, he is not a cheater, he's just a simple man who loves to run. If you still don't believe, go ahead and physically follow him on his next race and please stop posting about stupid cheating ideas, it diminishes the whole sport and the spirit of running. If you all ever met him, you would understand.