BS Bro....get your facts straight..
This did not take place in a bar..
Only the cop knows what happened for sure?... The other sober eye-witnesses have no idea what happened I guess. I highly doubt the protocol is to use a taser on anyone that gives a "crazy eye look"
But I am sure training is provided to difuse situations without the use of force
If I was a cop and you threatened me in some way, I'd probably arrest you without tasering you. As I'm not a cop, I'd probably just ignore the 120 pound pencil dick trying to be a tough guy.
I won't change my mine.. Because my mine is made up and is mine btw
I agree. I mean I try to keep an open mine to others opinions, even if they oppose mine. But in this case, my mine is made up. But really, I am generally pretty open mine-ed.
too bad you didn't response in time.
Harry Kooter wrote:
I agree. I mean I try to keep an open mine to others opinions, even if they oppose mine. But in this case, my mine is made up. But really, I am generally pretty open mine-ed.
My mine just didn't work fast enough for me to response in time.
What a mine field.
So are the charges dropped? Has Mike been cleared? If so that says something right there. Maybe it doesn't prove the officer's guilt, but it sure doesn't look like a good defense against a lawsuit agaist this pig. Mike, you have every consent of most people who were there to ruin this mother f***er. Sue him and the department for everything they're worth and make sure Cresap never works in law enforcement again. Abuse of authority, excessive use of force, and to top it off, a deceitful police report to cover his own ass. Maybe these aren't criminal offenses (I'm no lawyer obviously) but Cresap is one cop who gives good cops everywhere a bad name.
I hadn't heard that the charges have been dropped. Did you see that somewhere?
Just to clear one thing up.
When people say that Mike shouldn't have put his nose into the business that was taking place, we're not saying that he should look the other way. However, going up to an officer who is busy kicking someone out of the ladies room and probably the hotel bar area...isn't a bright idea. If it looks like the officer is doing something wrong tell other people to watch and then go down to the station afterwards or talk to a cop who is not busy.
For future advice to all of you.
Not saying anyone deserved anything, or either side is right or wrong. Just there are better ways of going about getting the result like that.
Exactly, some people want to defend what Gerber did, no matter what. This is the point I was trying to make. You don't need to get in the middle of a situation you had nothing to do with, especially after you're drunk.
Give us a break from all the "He shouldn't have done this" and "He should have done that" crap. We've already heard your genius advice about how to act in this situation.
What he should have done is not the issue here. The issue is what he did, and more importantly whether the cop used excessive force in response to what he did.
You're right, and that's why they're going to court.
I guess I was getting tired of all of the "he was doing to right thing by standing up to a cop" crap that people have been saying.
remedial poster wrote:
Give us a break from all the "He shouldn't have done this" and "He should have done that" crap. We've already heard your genius advice about how to act in this situation.
What he should have done is not the issue here. The issue is what he did, and more importantly whether the cop used excessive force in response to what he did.
People bring it up cause it's hard to defend a guilty party. What he DID do had a dramatic impact on the result. No one's debating what he should do now. We can't give him any better advice than he's probably recieving. We're just posting so that in future situations other people don't make the same mistake. Especially some posters who seem to think it's perfectly fine to walk up to an officer busy handling a situation and start heckling him.
Yes you have freedom of speech, to an extent. For the same reason you can't walk into a movie theatre and yell fire, you probably can't stand next to a busy police officer and start asking him questions or distract him. When your freedom of speech compromises the ability to maintain peace and order, then you're not exactly within the right. The police officer probably wasn't within the right either. But you don't fight fire with fire, you wait and help the guy press charges later.
I think everyone understands why he did it, but it's more or less a warning to others not to do the same.
Any updates?
This is the last I've seen of it...a June article:
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080603/NEWS01/806030352/-1/today
BTW, the national club track championships are this weekend in Kansas...will someone else get zapped this weekend?!?
smart money says no
Zap em w/taser wrote:
This is the last I've seen of it...a June article:
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080603/NEWS01/806030352/-1/todayBTW, the national club track championships are this weekend in Kansas...will someone else get zapped this weekend?!?
Dang ... doesn't sound good.
Any updates?
Spokane's best welcomes America's top club-level harriers with the finest tasers that taxpayer dollars can buy, and looks forward to using it on skinny distance runners!