link to an image of Goodge's watch while sitting down at the end of one of his 110km efforts showing a live goodge's HR HR of 121 which then blips to 122 in the next frame... yet he's running 7min km's at less than 100... clipped from his most recent youtube video.
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What if I showed will cocker my complete amateur kinda fast brother in law’s HR being in the 110s on 9:00 min/mile runs when he’s in shape? Goodge is running slow as shiz. Clearly man hasn’t sleuthed enough strava data throughout his life. The HR argument is just so weak for these slow asf paces.
Grant fisher being at 105 hr at 7:00/mile is FAR different than a far inferior runner being at 110 (admittedly at a slightly slower pace).
link to an image of Goodge's watch while sitting down at the end of one of his 110km efforts showing a live goodge's HR HR of 121 which then blips to 122 in the next frame... yet he's running 7min km's at less than 100... clipped from his most recent youtube video.
Goodge fan boys are odd to me. I don’t see how you could look at the situation and acknowledge that it isn’t highly suss. If you acknowledge it is suspicious but ultimately don’t care, then that’s fair enough
Also the personal attacks or having your name as “nameMouthBreather” is such a rugby-lad drink-your-own-piss unfunny type of humour
Goodge fan boys are odd to me. I don’t see how you could look at the situation and acknowledge that it isn’t highly suss. If you acknowledge it is suspicious but ultimately don’t care, then that’s fair enough
Also the personal attacks or having your name as “nameMouthBreather” is such a rugby-lad drink-your-own-piss unfunny type of humour
Some people would sell their soul for a 5% off Vuori coupon sent to them by The GOAT's email address.
Apropos of nothing, if someone had the desire to really understand the subject and took the time to read the following threads.
Kip Litton, Mike Rossi, Frank Meza, Rob Young, Dave Reading
At the end of this longest of all ultramarathons, would any person who requires a normal level of evidence to accept something start to see a pattern? Particularly people who will profess to believe someone is genuine to an insane degree beyond normal trolling. Obviously some of these are the scammer sockpuppetting but not all.
Can anyone who knows COROS watches help me out, this is the Vertix 2s. He's resting fueling up, the metrics appear to read 25'34", 8:05, 0.18. I assume this is segment time at the top as I doubt he was only running for 25 minutes before laying down to rest and eat when his daily rest time is typically under 2 hours. 8:05 must be overall pace, clearly not segment pace as he's stagnant. But then then the bottom right must be segment distance as well because it looks like 0.18km, so clearly he didn't run less than 200m in 25 minutes. But I also think it's weird he'd even cover that much ground on a break, you'd imagine he pauses his watch and just plops down, then hops back up to go again. However he could've been walking around a bit in those 25mins and gps sensors on watches can overestimate distance covered when moving like that so it may not be suspicious at all. The bottom in black is pulse I think but too blurry to tell and i can't make out if it's two digits or three. So can anyone confirm these readings? Does the COROS still measure distance when paused? Once again taken from his most recent YouTube video.
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When I first heard about influencers, I thought that was the most useless job in the world.
Then I heard about influencers who travel cross country through the wilderness cowering in the back of a van being driven at 5 mph, and I thought that was the most useless job in the world.
That's within a day's drive of at least 10 million people. He's not running across the South Pole or the Gobi Desert.
I've no idea if he is cheating. But it's fair to ask that if so many people are convinced he is, why it's completely beyond them to get a witness to it?
You can keep posting here and liking each others' posts, I'm sure that makes you happy, or you could actually do something.
Can anyone who knows COROS watches help me out, this is the Vertix 2s. He's resting fueling up, the metrics appear to read 25'34", 8:05, 0.18. I assume this is segment time at the top as I doubt he was only running for 25 minutes before laying down to rest and eat when his daily rest time is typically under 2 hours. 8:05 must be overall pace, clearly not segment pace as he's stagnant. But then then the bottom right must be segment distance as well because it looks like 0.18km, so clearly he didn't run less than 200m in 25 minutes. But I also think it's weird he'd even cover that much ground on a break, you'd imagine he pauses his watch and just plops down, then hops back up to go again. However he could've been walking around a bit in those 25mins and gps sensors on watches can overestimate distance covered when moving like that so it may not be suspicious at all. The bottom in black is pulse I think but too blurry to tell and i can't make out if it's two digits or three. So can anyone confirm these readings? Does the COROS still measure distance when paused? Once again taken from his most recent YouTube video.
That's within a day's drive of at least 10 million people. He's not running across the South Pole or the Gobi Desert.
I've no idea if he is cheating. But it's fair to ask that if so many people are convinced he is, why it's completely beyond them to get a witness to it?
You can keep posting here and liking each others' posts, I'm sure that makes you happy, or you could actually do something.
Do you understand the concept of time? Do you understand the concept that people have jobs, commitments and don't have unlimited cash?
A rock isn't rocks... surely the lawyer here could tell you that
A bit like saying "I shot the sheriff, but only once, and I didn't shoot his deputy".
Not much of a defence, and only because Cockerell didn't have a deputy.
What exactly do they need to do before you accept that Goodge and his team trying to intimidate and bully an eye witness is a bit dodgy and a sure sign of guilt?
Do you understand the concept of time? Do you understand the concept that people have jobs, commitments and don't have unlimited cash?
OK, so in the face of basic facts, the "he's running in one of the most isolated places in the planet" stuff has been dropped. We'll forget it was ever mentioned.
If I were so summarise this, he's run across two whole continents, in a blaze of publicity, mapping his progress, yet you have failed to provide one single witness to his blatant cheating. All you need a single person to say, "well his Strava says he was at this point between 1pm and 2pm, I was there and didn't see him running". One person. But of course, everyone's busy.
Not saying he isn't cheating, but no evidence has been provided that he is.
OK, so in the face of basic facts, the "he's running in one of the most isolated places in the planet" stuff has been dropped. We'll forget it was ever mentioned.
If I were so summarise this, he's run across two whole continents, in a blaze of publicity, mapping his progress, yet you have failed to provide one single witness to his blatant cheating. All you need a single person to say, "well his Strava says he was at this point between 1pm and 2pm, I was there and didn't see him running". One person. But of course, everyone's busy.
Not saying he isn't cheating, but no evidence has been provided that he is.
You need to read the article about Rob Young to understand how to catch a transcon cheat. It isn't as simple as getting lucky during a spot check. You have to have a team of people following around the clock until the cheater, as in the Rob Young case, blows up. An "ah ha" moment analyzing data isn't going to do the trick. So why not assemble a team? Because someone running across AUS is really a non-event and it is just not that important. It is why the engagement is so low, donations are low and the Let's Run banter is simply a few pages of people taking the piss out of each other. I realize there are both Goodge Lovers and Goodge Haters but neither side has large numbers. Maybe dozens. Not hundreds.
I wondered the set up myself, I think the 25 may be current split pace? In the IG story of what he eats in a day his watch big display jumps from 27:04 to 27:12 within a split second. None of the other stats appear to change… showing 7:43 and 0.12
Have you looked at his route? You're saying he hasn't been running an isolated route? What are you talking about?
There's actually plenty of runs where he's been observed - most of the official races he's been involved with. And guess what - his performances have been completely different (average pace, normal HR). He's a bang average runner when he's being watched.
Your "summary" ignores that there's enough red flags here to raise suspicion, and he's incapable of providing evidence which would be easy to provide if he wasn't cheating. This was all predicted long before he started this run, because it's the same pattern over and over and over again. Spoon feeding everything to people like you is probably more exhausting than whatever Goodge is currently doing.
Some people here are passionate about endurance running and want to protect it from fraudulent, snake oil selling narcissists. Some people here are passionate about... Will Goodge? It's incredibly weird.
OK, so in the face of basic facts, the "he's running in one of the most isolated places in the planet" stuff has been dropped. We'll forget it was ever mentioned.
If I were so summarise this, he's run across two whole continents, in a blaze of publicity, mapping his progress, yet you have failed to provide one single witness to his blatant cheating. All you need a single person to say, "well his Strava says he was at this point between 1pm and 2pm, I was there and didn't see him running". One person. But of course, everyone's busy.
Not saying he isn't cheating, but no evidence has been provided that he is.
You said he was running "within a day's drive" of some populated areas, and is therefore not running in one of the most remote parts of the world. At 100kph you can cover 1,300km in a "day's drive". For reference, Toronto, Canada, is around 1300kms from the shore of Hudson's Bay, where you can see Polar Bears.
You clearly have know idea how just how remote large parts of countries like Australia and Canada (extremely large counties with very low population densities) actually are. Depending on the route you take, you can't go between Calgary AB and Vancouver BC (not considered "remote" in the least within Canada) without making very clear plans about where you're going to get gas, because you can easily go a couple of hundred kms or more between stations. The vast majority of Canadians have never been, nor will ever go, more than a few hundred kms north of the US/Canadian border, and that's still considered the "near" north. I would guess something similar is true wrt to AUS and the north of that country.
So, yes, this run is being done in one of the most remote settled places in the world. It's not Antarctica, the Far North, or the Sahara, but it's the middle of nowhere, with typically VERY few people around.
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