Female boxer taps out after two punches against biological male in the Olympic boxing

So, presented with some scientific data that is your response. You show you are a brainless clod.

There goes chuckle denying all reason and logic to reside in the fantasy land of 'we just don't know!'

Time to show us your massive intellect. Make a prediction. Given all we know, every piece of evidence presented, all of the context and subtext, as well as the evidence of your own eyes and ears. Do you think these two athletes are 46XY 5-ARD or not? I'll make a prediction too so you don't feel put on the spot. My prediction is that they do have this DSD. Your turn. Of course, you won't do it and you'll equivocate because you're an absolute coward who can't back up his words or his positions. If you truly believe these boxers are 100% female with no DSDs then stand up for them and say it.

I wouldn't be so sure that Khelif has XY 5-ARD. Another very similar DSD that's prevalent in Arab MENA countries is 17beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase 3, aka 17beta-HSD3, which used to be known as 17-beta reductase deficiency.

17beta-HSD3 is one of the five XY DSD conditions specifically named in World Athletics DSD regulations.

From a talk given by Milton Diamond in 1999, the year Imane Khelif was born, shortly after Diamond complete a sabbatical helping other researchers in the Middle East who were studying DSDs amongst Arabs in Israel and Gaza:

[This] condition is common particularly among certain Arab groups; there is a great deal of intermarriage among cousins and this is a known genetic trait which frequently reappears.

Individuals with this condition are born with female-looking external genitalia and are raised accordingly. Some 50% of the babies...are born at home and are attended by a midwife. Close examination of the genitalia is not usual even in communities where [DSD] is not uncommon. This society, as most Islamic ones, is quite sex segregated and nudity is rare and discouraged. Discussion of any sexual matters, even medical conditions, is considered inappropriate. Modesty is a goal.

investigators found their patients, although reared as girls due to their female appearing genitalia at birth, almost always switched to living as males.

The researchers that Diamond worked with later went on to publish papers in which they said that In areas of high consanguinity, such as among the Gaza Strip Arab population, they believed the incidence of 17βHSD-3 deficiency could be as high as 1 in 100–300.

17-beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase 3 deficiency is a condition that affects male sexual development. People with this condition are genetically male, with one X and one Y chromosome in each cell, and they have male gonads (testes). Their bodies, however, do not produce enough of a [enzyme important to the key] male sex hormone testosterone, [and this deficiency] disrupts the formation of the external sex organs before birth.

Most people with 17-beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase 3 deficiency are born with external genitalia that appear female. In some cases, the external genitalia do not look clearly male or clearly female. Still other affected infants have genitalia that appear predominantly male, often with an unusually small penis (micropenis) or the urethra opening on the underside of the penis (hypospadias).

During puberty, people with this condition develop some male secondary sex characteristics, such as increased muscle mass, deepening of the voice, and development of male pattern facial and body hair. In addition to these changes typical of adolescent boys, some affected individuals may also experience breast enlargement (gynecomastia). Despite having testes, people with this disorder are generally unable to father children (infertile).

17-beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase 3 deficiency is a rare disorder. Researchers have estimated that this condition occurs in approximately 1 in 147,000 newborns. It is more common in the Arab population of Gaza, where it affects 1 in 200 to 300 people.

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IOC: Any women taking testosterone will be suspended. Also the IOC: Any men (with male levels of testosterone) identifying as women are welcome. Duh. They have tied themselves in knots trying to justify their misogyny.

1. Not every post is about YOU. And this message board does not revolve around you.

2. On this message board, one cannot post without "replying" to another post.

3. Your post was immediately above mine.

Does that answer your question? I hope you are enjoying the company of great defenders of women like Elon Musk and Pierce Morgan.

Lol. You directly reply to her message with a question and when she says 'why are you asking me?' you say 'I'm not! The world doesn't revolve around you!'.

Blows my mind that you have posted thousands upon thousands of comments on these boards (usually with one of your three identical talking points right enough) but you haven't noticed that you can just click on the big 'reply' button at the top to reply to the OP/thread.

Time to give me $50,000. Of course you won’t do it because you are an absolute coward.

Don’t come back until you can read and write.

if anyone cares i believe imane fights today at 4:34pm est, a win today would put her in the gold medal bout next. afaik you can only watch it on peacock.

Evasion once again. Can't even commit to saying whether these boxers are biologically female or not. Sad.

Evasion once again. Can’t even commit to payment for service requested.

Him. And Thomas Bach says Nikki Hiltz is a her. He said, "If you were born as a woman, been raised as a woman, have a passport as a woman, and competed for many years as a woman, you're a woman."

Imane Khelif advances to gold medal bout with dominating win over Janjaem Suwannapheng

google image search her opponents name - lots of gender warriors heads are going to explode over this one...

Hubba hubba, come to papa.

She's been running through my mind all day

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IBA released more information about the testing at the tumultuous press conference it held yesterday (Monday August 5) and in a written statement.

However, IBA can't release the test results themselves due to the privacy laws and customs that protect the right of individuals to keep personal medical information confidential. In Europe, the 2016 law known as GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) is in force, and it provides ironclad privacy protections regarding medical information.

American journalist Alan Abrahamson has said he's seen the results of the first tests administered to Khelif and Lin in Istanbul in 2022. The following is from Abrahamson's story:

At the Istanbul worlds in 2022, each gave a blood sample. Collection was made May 17, one at 1:38 p.m., the other at 1:39 p.m. The independent Sistem Tip Lab, which as the IBA statement notes carries license No. 194-MRK, issued reports May 24.

For both athletes, there is a summary on page 2 that says the same thing. Translated per Google from Turkish:

“Result: In the interphase nucleus FISH* analysis performed on cells obtained from your patient's material, 100 interphase nuclei were examined with the Cytocell brand Prenatal Enumeration Probe Kit. An XY signal pattern was observed in all of them.”

[FISH stands for fluorescence in situ hybridization. This is a standard laboratory technique used in DNA testing.]

At the 2022 Istanbul world championships, Khelif was the 63-kilogram silver medalist, Lin the 57-kilo gold medalist.

In its statement [on August 5, 2024]IBA said the sole Istanbul test was “not enough to make a decision with respective consequences,” reasoning that with “one test, [a] mistake is possible.” It said lawyers “advised to monitor the situation and to contact the IOC.”
It asserted it informed the IOC but got no response.

“The situation was completely new to boxing, and IBA, following numerous consultations, decided to conduct a second testing before disqualifying the boxers,” it said. This is problematic because, at that moment, after the Istanbul worlds, heading to New Delhi, the IBA had no specific rule about athletes for which it had evidence of XY chromosomes.

“However,” the statement goes on to say, “the second testing could only be conducted in a neutral country and within the IBA competition period.”

Thus, at the 2023 women’s words in New Delhi, a second test for each. This is the Dr Lal PathLabs test. Blood from both athletes was collected at 10:30 a.m. on March 17. Reports were produced March 23.

As IBA said in its statement, “The findings were absolutely identical to the first test results.”

On March 24, the then-IBA chief executive, George Yerolimpos, told Khelif and Lin they were going to be disqualified. They signed documents acknowledging they were being excluded per IBA Rule 4.2.1. The test details “were attached to the letter,” the IBA said.

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interesting and, for once, not compeltely biased report from the BBC;

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Research is shedding light on different chromosomal make-ups and what advantages they may bring to sport.

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