He is a new page. Let’s vow to not pick on angry Igy on this page and maybe in return he will not insult anyone. ??
He is a new page. Let’s vow to not pick on angry Igy on this page and maybe in return he will not insult anyone. ??
Walk a mile in his shoes wrote:
He is a new page. Let’s vow to not pick on angry Igy on this page and maybe in return he will not insult anyone. ??
Beat it Detector Dude.
You’ll feel better.
That’s not me.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Keep in mind REITs are bond proxies and will track both interest rates and the general economy. So good relative performance should not be a surprise. That is not to say it should not be say a 5% position in a diversified portfolio, but it does not replace the benefits of intermediate term bonds.
It is not a REIT. It is a company that holds the actual real estate. It claims to "invest between 75% and 85% of its net assets directly in real estate or real estate-related investments."
Ticker: QREARX
They do offer a REIT, and this isn't it.
I like the looks of it.
I should definitely get some bond funds, too, but that's for another day.
seattle prattle wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Keep in mind REITs are bond proxies and will track both interest rates and the general economy. So good relative performance should not be a surprise. That is not to say it should not be say a 5% position in a diversified portfolio, but it does not replace the benefits of intermediate term bonds.
It is not a REIT. It is a company that holds the actual real estate. It claims to "invest between 75% and 85% of its net assets directly in real estate or real estate-related investments."
Ticker: QREARX
They do offer a REIT, and this isn't it.
I like the looks of it.
I should definitely get some bond funds, too, but that's for another day.
Please do not correct Igy. We’ll be here all day. Plus he is a wreck tonight.
Most likely a private real estate investment trust. Same concept, but not traded in the public markets. So, functions in the same way. In return for the principal investment the private REIT spins off a portion of the revenue to investors. The REIT manager takes the investor’s money and purchases new projects. That is one reason you see so much construction. Yield starved income investors.
Walk a mile in his shoes wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
It is not a REIT. It is a company that holds the actual real estate. It claims to "invest between 75% and 85% of its net assets directly in real estate or real estate-related investments."
Ticker: QREARX
They do offer a REIT, and this isn't it.
I like the looks of it.
I should definitely get some bond funds, too, but that's for another day.
Please do not correct Igy. We’ll be here all day. Plus he is a wreck tonight.
The wreck is you, Igy infatuated Detector Dude. Admit it, you have a very big hard-on for Igy.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Most likely a private real estate investment trust. Same concept, but not traded in the public markets. So, functions in the same way. In return for the principal investment the private REIT spins off a portion of the revenue to investors. The REIT manager takes the investor’s money and purchases new projects. That is one reason you see so much construction. Yield starved income investors.
I compared it against publicly traded REITs and it is much more stable. A couple of percentage points lower returns, but very gradual price moves, far less volatility.
I like the higher returns of the REITs, and gonna jump on FREL (FIdelity Real Estate Index ETF) in my brokerage account, in addition to the buy i just did in my retirement account.
I would assume more stability since it is private which moderates outflows. TIAA has generally been a more conservative money manager in the past.
yeah, good point. THey limit withdrawls to one per quarter.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
The wreck is you, Igy infatuated Detector Dude. Admit it, you have a very big hard-on for Igy.
Is it anything like your hard-on for TB12?
Hey, be nice! Igy only posted that shemale photo because he was trying to be clever and we know that’s not a strength of his. Give the guy a break for once!
All eight indexes on our world watch list posted gains through December 9, 2019. The top performer is our own S&P 500 with a gain of 25.64% and in second is France's CAC 40 with a gain of 26.65%. In third is Germany's DAXK with a gain of 21.71%. Coming in last is Hong Kong's Hang Seng with a gain of 5.43%.
Portia wrote:
All eight indexes on our world watch list posted gains through December 9, 2019. The top performer is our own S&P 500 with a gain of 25.64% and in second is France's CAC 40 with a gain of 26.65%. In third is Germany's DAXK with a gain of 21.71%. Coming in last is Hong Kong's Hang Seng with a gain of 5.43%.
https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2019/12/09/world-markets-update?bt_ee=PmVbjRlalFLMIh792c0BQGqwPpw7ioMXBeOt3iWKUEdh7VrPjVDC%2B46%2Bn0ks96OJ&bt_ts=1575985156995
Why does this carp keep getting posted?
#1: S&P 500 at 25.64%
#2: CAC 40 at 26.65%
Right.
Maserati wrote:
Portia wrote:
All eight indexes on our world watch list posted gains through December 9, 2019. The top performer is our own S&P 500 with a gain of 25.64% and in second is France's CAC 40 with a gain of 26.65%. In third is Germany's DAXK with a gain of 21.71%. Coming in last is Hong Kong's Hang Seng with a gain of 5.43%.
https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2019/12/09/world-markets-update?bt_ee=PmVbjRlalFLMIh792c0BQGqwPpw7ioMXBeOt3iWKUEdh7VrPjVDC%2B46%2Bn0ks96OJ&bt_ts=1575985156995Why does this carp keep getting posted?
#1: S&P 500 at 25.64%
#2: CAC 40 at 26.65%
Right.
Those are their 2019 peak numbers. The YTD numbers are 24.94% and 24.48% respectively.
Yes, I know.
Tell that to Portia.
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Further to my sense that things are changing, this might be the first time that markets didn't seem to respond to "maybe news" about "possible activity" related to a "potential trade deal". Yes I understand that without the news they might have been down 250 points, and that the response was hidden--but it didn't feel like that was what happened.
It felt like it got ignored, which would be another significant shift. Algos can, and are, tweaked--especially when they aren't doing "great".
Makes me even more twitchy with that b&h.
Markets limping along, Fed keeps rates the same for the foreseeable future, repo markets grind on, nobody is convinced.
The landscape seems to me now to be like a battlefield, with all communications lost. Smaller parties here and there doing this and that, commanders unable to execute plans, people making guesses and field decisions as to who is their ally and what their combined mission might be, in an environment where information is choppy, incomplete, and unreliable.
Something has happened already--it's like a bomb went off, and everybody is deaf from the noise. What it is that has happened, I don't know...but I do sense that there has been a disturbance in the force.
Nervous as f right now. Fed needs to just go full retard and declare QE4, and engage the afterburners on the printing presses--at least then I will decisively know when I need to get out. Moving some money on Friday.
You may now pile on. Only history will decide if the first shots have already been fired by this time.
The battlefield is Moscow with winter setting in. Two attempts to conquer Russia but the French and German armies were destroyed on the outskirts of the capital. Likewise we have had two events in the past 20 years where wealth was destroyed in a similar foolish fashion. We have learned nothing.
Maserati wrote:
Markets limping along, Fed keeps rates the same for the foreseeable future, repo markets grind on, nobody is convinced.
The landscape seems to me now to be like a battlefield, with all communications lost. Smaller parties here and there doing this and that, commanders unable to execute plans, people making guesses and field decisions as to who is their ally and what their combined mission might be, in an environment where information is choppy, incomplete, and unreliable.
Something has happened already--it's like a bomb went off, and everybody is deaf from the noise. What it is that has happened, I don't know...but I do sense that there has been a disturbance in the force.
Nervous as f right now. Fed needs to just go full retard and declare QE4, and engage the afterburners on the printing presses--at least then I will decisively know when I need to get out. Moving some money on Friday.
You may now pile on. Only history will decide if the first shots have already been fired by this time.
markets limping along at all time highs
agip wrote:
Maserati wrote:
Markets limping along, Fed keeps rates the same for the foreseeable future, repo markets grind on, nobody is convinced.
The landscape seems to me now to be like a battlefield, with all communications lost. Smaller parties here and there doing this and that, commanders unable to execute plans, people making guesses and field decisions as to who is their ally and what their combined mission might be, in an environment where information is choppy, incomplete, and unreliable.
Something has happened already--it's like a bomb went off, and everybody is deaf from the noise. What it is that has happened, I don't know...but I do sense that there has been a disturbance in the force.
Nervous as f right now. Fed needs to just go full retard and declare QE4, and engage the afterburners on the printing presses--at least then I will decisively know when I need to get out. Moving some money on Friday.
You may now pile on. Only history will decide if the first shots have already been fired by this time.
markets limping along at all time highs
Not when priced in, for instance, gold.