I guess as records go, the pull up one (previously held by embrace the grind master Goggins) is impressive.
I suppose he's becoming a professional self promoter. Sadly, this is the number one career ambition many young people. It's one of those professions where if they all disappeared arguably the world would be slightly better - at least there would be less noise and perhaps brands like athletic greens and gym shark would not exist!
Um.....we are ALWAYS selling ourselves, in one capacity or another. You get to choose whether you buy or ignore....but i got a hunch, you'll be clicking away and binge watching the 2:30 journey just to be utd.
I am not sure if this is sarcasm; however, I guarantee I won't be binge-watching a guy who loves Jesus, Jeans, and Fitness.
I don't resonate with someone training full-time to run a club-level standard, and won't invest my time in such a journey.
I get the argument we need to sell ourselves. I can stomach gimmicks to an extent, but not when the entire personal brand is Jeans Guy. To me, it's just noise. Currently, I only watch FOD and RTJ.
RTJ is a great example of capturing an audience using some gimmicks; however, offers so much depth and value beyond this.
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Honestly I want to know this guy's secret to finish so well in Boston. Everybody is struggling like crazy in the last 10k while he's dropped 30 seconds faster than his average pace in jeans. Do we just have it wrong all wrong as skinny runner dweebs?
20 Miles12:04:43PM 02:02:07 08:14 06:04 9.91
21 Miles12:11:00PM 02:08:24 06:17 06:17 9.55
35K12:15:21PM 02:12:45 04:21 05:49 10.31
23 Miles12:22:53PM 02:20:17 07:32 06:03 9.94
24 Miles12:28:26PM 02:25:50 05:33 05:33 10.80
40K12:33:20PM 02:30:44 04:54 05:42 10.56
25.2 Miles12:35:29PM 02:32:52 02:08 06:12 9.64
Finish Net12:41:05PM 02:38:29 05:37 05:31 10.91
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Seth is so stubborn. You can tell him the sky is blue he will tell you it’s green. He refuses to train smarter or get a coach because he wants to appear the smartest man in the room. He’s getting older and all that base training needs to be reinforced by speed and quality. He won’t do it though.
I.e., see Seth's 4/22/25 video.
Can someone summarize? I really don’t want to watch 15 minutes of “Should I?…maybe?…But, but…picked up a bug…airline seats…” stream of consciousness rambling and excuses.
I laughed at the comment at the top complains that the content is “pretty advanced” and asks for simpler content. 🤣
Massive blow up for Elizabeth Clor. Her BFF Track Club Babe is also blowing up, but not quite as spectacularly. Looks like a ~4:05 for Clor and a ~4:20 for Track Club Babe, but the latter being more consistent 10 minutes miles Clor keeps yo yoing between 7:50s and 11 minute pace.
The bright side for them: they still defeated Matt Fox!
There aren't a whole lot of people I'll actively root against but oh my god, this Track Club Babe woman regularly pops up in my Instagram feed. She's always talking about how she can run "fast" despite doing her mileage at like 12+ min/mile and how important high cadence is. Typifies the running influencer by acting like they have all the answers but then the races tend to expose them for not really knowing what they're doing. I'm sure all those she "coaches" will still be amazed at her for finishing it and continue to scoot around at 180+ steps while going just a click faster than walking pace.
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Honestly I want to know this guy's secret to finish so well in Boston. Everybody is struggling like crazy in the last 10k while he's dropped 30 seconds faster than his average pace in jeans. Do we just have it wrong all wrong as skinny runner dweebs?
20 Miles12:04:43PM 02:02:07 08:14 06:04 9.91
21 Miles12:11:00PM 02:08:24 06:17 06:17 9.55
35K12:15:21PM 02:12:45 04:21 05:49 10.31
23 Miles12:22:53PM 02:20:17 07:32 06:03 9.94
24 Miles12:28:26PM 02:25:50 05:33 05:33 10.80
40K12:33:20PM 02:30:44 04:54 05:42 10.56
25.2 Miles12:35:29PM 02:32:52 02:08 06:12 9.64
Finish Net12:41:05PM 02:38:29 05:37 05:31 10.91
Do his splits coincide with the elevation profile?
Wouldn't it be nearly impossible to get these splits by cheating? I
The real question is if he is natty or not. These fake natties have invaded the marathon scene to get more likes and views. Unfortunately, they have found the formula to be jacked and run fairly fast. Cross fitters at least had to keep enough muscle on that they were slow. I think we are about to see a huge increase in doping among young (20s to 30s) average faster runners. The runinfluencers are gonna have to dope and run a downhill marathon to stay at the top of the social media game. Many of them already do.
Essentially, after extensive investigation and discernment, Seth feels he underperformed in Jersey City because he let the teenage punks on LRC and the peanut gallery in his comments influence him to do more speed training and less 10 minute miles recruiting red blood cells.
He's now feeling vindicated in his unique training and basically feels he was right and the critics were wrong, so they can go suck an egg.
The real question is if he is natty or not. These fake natties have invaded the marathon scene to get more likes and views. Unfortunately, they have found the formula to be jacked and run fairly fast. Cross fitters at least had to keep enough muscle on that they were slow. I think we are about to see a huge increase in doping among young (20s to 30s) average faster runners. The runinfluencers are gonna have to dope and run a downhill marathon to stay at the top of the social media game. Many of them already do.
For the longest time I knew guys who lifted and maintained a muscular physique and I knew guys who could run sub 2:40 in the marathon. These were two separate groups entirely and could not have been more diametrically opposed; rail thin, focused runners vs gym bros trying to get big and get chicks. Now, on social media I am bombarded by guys who walk around with 200+ lbs of muscle and run fast marathons like it's going out of style. I don't know if it's shoes, drugs, or the fact that there's now a career prospect in being one of these roid runners but it has totally warped the perspective of what a marathoner is. I can't imagine being a young, scrawny distance runner and seeing this thinking it is "normal." To me, all these guys are just narcissistic d-bags who crave money and attention under the guise of being noble and "inspiring" others. I posted it earlier but there is nothing "inspiring" or impressive about exercise when that is all you do. It is impressive to carve out time in a busy schedule with family, work, personal commitments, and a whole host of other priorities. If your job is just to be in shape and post on social media, exercise is easy and is not impressive.
The real question is if he is natty or not. These fake natties have invaded the marathon scene to get more likes and views. Unfortunately, they have found the formula to be jacked and run fairly fast. Cross fitters at least had to keep enough muscle on that they were slow. I think we are about to see a huge increase in doping among young (20s to 30s) average faster runners. The runinfluencers are gonna have to dope and run a downhill marathon to stay at the top of the social media game. Many of them already do.
For the longest time I knew guys who lifted and maintained a muscular physique and I knew guys who could run sub 2:40 in the marathon. These were two separate groups entirely and could not have been more diametrically opposed; rail thin, focused runners vs gym bros trying to get big and get chicks. Now, on social media I am bombarded by guys who walk around with 200+ lbs of muscle and run fast marathons like it's going out of style. I don't know if it's shoes, drugs, or the fact that there's now a career prospect in being one of these roid runners but it has totally warped the perspective of what a marathoner is. I can't imagine being a young, scrawny distance runner and seeing this thinking it is "normal." To me, all these guys are just narcissistic d-bags who crave money and attention under the guise of being noble and "inspiring" others. I posted it earlier but there is nothing "inspiring" or impressive about exercise when that is all you do. It is impressive to carve out time in a busy schedule with family, work, personal commitments, and a whole host of other priorities. If your job is just to be in shape and post on social media, exercise is easy and is not impressive.
Isn't his Dad the jacked bow hunter Cameron Hanes? Yeah, those guys are probably on some sort of gear. Test them and kick them out! It's all for attention and business. Really sad to see at a quality distance running event like Boston. https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes/?hl=en
The real question is if he is natty or not. These fake natties have invaded the marathon scene to get more likes and views. Unfortunately, they have found the formula to be jacked and run fairly fast. Cross fitters at least had to keep enough muscle on that they were slow. I think we are about to see a huge increase in doping among young (20s to 30s) average faster runners. The runinfluencers are gonna have to dope and run a downhill marathon to stay at the top of the social media game. Many of them already do.
He's not Natty lol. Not even close. Is Nick Bare Natty? Not even close.
His dad is Cam Hanes, who is a world class bow hunter, and possibly the best bow hunter who ever lived. I'll always give him his flowers for that. But Cam has come out and said he is on gear (Testosterone or TRT I can't remember). His son is most definitely on some sort of gear as well. Truett completed the pull up challenge, and there is no testing there. You do not have that physique and run that fast, that quickly, that easily.
There's a guy on IG/YouTube Jeremy Miller who is of a similar build, but I do believe he is most likely natty. Just naturally gifted. He's run well but never a sub 2:40 and he lifts really well too. I just find his content boring AF.
Testosterone and other gear is so easy to come by today it's not even funny. In the gym in my town, I overheard two college kids who are in good shape talking about their cycles of roids and other stuff. These kids are 20-23 years old, in peak shape and feel the need to take this crap and inject it into their bodies for IG and clout. It's freaking sad. So sad I even considered it at one point, but I'd rather not risk the long term possible damage.
They should dope testing for these big time influencer types who get so much media attention and social media clout. Do they just think they are above the race rules and regulations and better than the rest of us?
Speaking of which, looks like Allie O's sister got illegal outside aid support at Boston (see 8:45 in this vid). Isn't that also against the rules? Possible DQ? It's like these people already have pretty much every advantage in life already and they still want to break the rules to favor themselves above others?
Testosterone and other gear is so easy to come by today it's not even funny. In the gym in my town, I overheard two college kids who are in good shape talking about their cycles of roids and other stuff. These kids are 20-23 years old, in peak shape and feel the need to take this crap and inject it into their bodies for IG and clout. It's freaking sad. So sad I even considered it at one point, but I'd rather not risk the long term possible damage.
Something really needs to be done about it.
This is what makes me sad/upset about this. Also why I think it's ok to harshly judge these influencers. Normalizing steroid use to an audience of impressionable young people is disgusting. It especially rubs me the wrong way how it's branded as "motivation" and "showing people what's possible." What a load!
All these influencers have are guilty of some level of hiding from the camera but preaching transparency. It may not always be as blatant as the fake natties withhold their stack but how many runfluencers/shoetubers happily hawk gear and supplements and then promptly toss those in the bin while keeping what they actually use off camera to not give "free advertising." And don't get me started on their "coaching!" I mentioned Ms. Track Club Babe earlier but I think every influencer in running has to share their $0.02 about Zone 2, threshold, keeping the easy runs easy, running form, etc. For anyone who can't recognize these charlatans I feel genuinely bad. Like if you're just getting started and you see someone who who posts about barely being able to finish a marathon and now is running sub 3, that must seem like expert advise. So with no frame of reference you're firing up that sponsor code, clicking those affiliate links, and maybe even shelling out for that copy-paste training plan.
I know people say that it's "harmless" but honestly I don't think so. The steroid thing is definitely not but even our friendly shoetubers are doing their damage. Ultimately it is just plain shady and greedy for these people who were at one point regular people but now have ascended themselves beyond plebian status.
Testosterone and other gear is so easy to come by today it's not even funny. In the gym in my town, I overheard two college kids who are in good shape talking about their cycles of roids and other stuff. These kids are 20-23 years old, in peak shape and feel the need to take this crap and inject it into their bodies for IG and clout. It's freaking sad. So sad I even considered it at one point, but I'd rather not risk the long term possible damage.
Something really needs to be done about it.
This is what makes me sad/upset about this. Also why I think it's ok to harshly judge these influencers. Normalizing steroid use to an audience of impressionable young people is disgusting. It especially rubs me the wrong way how it's branded as "motivation" and "showing people what's possible." What a load!
All these influencers have are guilty of some level of hiding from the camera but preaching transparency. It may not always be as blatant as the fake natties withhold their stack but how many runfluencers/shoetubers happily hawk gear and supplements and then promptly toss those in the bin while keeping what they actually use off camera to not give "free advertising." And don't get me started on their "coaching!" I mentioned Ms. Track Club Babe earlier but I think every influencer in running has to share their $0.02 about Zone 2, threshold, keeping the easy runs easy, running form, etc. For anyone who can't recognize these charlatans I feel genuinely bad. Like if you're just getting started and you see someone who who posts about barely being able to finish a marathon and now is running sub 3, that must seem like expert advise. So with no frame of reference you're firing up that sponsor code, clicking those affiliate links, and maybe even shelling out for that copy-paste training plan.
I know people say that it's "harmless" but honestly I don't think so. The steroid thing is definitely not but even our friendly shoetubers are doing their damage. Ultimately it is just plain shady and greedy for these people who were at one point regular people but now have ascended themselves beyond plebian status.
This is really well said. If you're constantly pointing the camera at yourself, you're not documenting the event. You're making yourself the event, which is highly obnoxious. It's amazing how much we tolerate that we would never have tolerated 20 years ago thanks to social media.
Ben and Sarah met the way many runners do — at the starting line. It was the Oxford Half Marathon, and as fate would have it, their race numbers were just one digit apart. They struck up a conversation about shoes, playlists, and pre-race banana rituals. A shared love for the sport turned into shared Sunday long runs, shared protein bars, and eventually, a shared apartment.
But life, like running, isn’t always a smooth course. Ben got injured training for the Berlin Marathon, and while Sarah pushed for personal bests, he struggled to keep up — not just on the track, but emotionally. The silence between strides grew. They drifted apart, both blaming the distance, the pace, and maybe a bit of pride.
Months passed. They still ran, just not together. Then, one April afternoon, Sarah found herself at the London Marathon Expo, browsing stalls alone. Her eyes stopped at a small booth promoting sustainable running gear — and behind the table was Ben.
He looked up. Their eyes met. No awkwardness. Just memories and that familiar rhythm.
"Didn’t expect to see you here," Sarah said, almost smiling.
Ben smiled fully. “I was hoping I would.”
Turns out, during recovery, Ben had thrown himself into designing eco-friendly, minimalist running gear. What started as therapy turned into a brand — ReRun Co. And now he was showcasing it at the expo.
They talked. About shoes, playlists, life. And then Ben said the words that changed the race:
"I made space on the team for you — if you want in."
Sarah laughed. “You mean the brand?”
“I mean everything.”
By the time the London Marathon arrived, they were a team again — on and off the course. Their stall, now with both names on the banner, was a hit. Runners loved the gear, but they loved the story more — of love lost, found again, and turned into something tangible.
Ben and Sarah didn’t just run races anymore. They ran together. And at the finish line, that’s all that really mattered.
Ben and Sarah met the way many runners do — at the starting line. It was the Oxford Half Marathon, and as fate would have it, their race numbers were just one digit apart. They struck up a conversation about shoes, playlists, and pre-race banana rituals. A shared love for the sport turned into shared Sunday long runs, shared protein bars, and eventually, a shared apartment.
But life, like running, isn’t always a smooth course. Ben got injured training for the Berlin Marathon, and while Sarah pushed for personal bests, he struggled to keep up — not just on the track, but emotionally. The silence between strides grew. They drifted apart, both blaming the distance, the pace, and maybe a bit of pride.
Months passed. They still ran, just not together. Then, one April afternoon, Sarah found herself at the London Marathon Expo, browsing stalls alone. Her eyes stopped at a small booth promoting sustainable running gear — and behind the table was Ben.
He looked up. Their eyes met. No awkwardness. Just memories and that familiar rhythm.
"Didn’t expect to see you here," Sarah said, almost smiling.
Ben smiled fully. “I was hoping I would.”
Turns out, during recovery, Ben had thrown himself into designing eco-friendly, minimalist running gear. What started as therapy turned into a brand — ReRun Co. And now he was showcasing it at the expo.
They talked. About shoes, playlists, life. And then Ben said the words that changed the race:
"I made space on the team for you — if you want in."
Sarah laughed. “You mean the brand?”
“I mean everything.”
By the time the London Marathon arrived, they were a team again — on and off the course. Their stall, now with both names on the banner, was a hit. Runners loved the gear, but they loved the story more — of love lost, found again, and turned into something tangible.
Ben and Sarah didn’t just run races anymore. They ran together. And at the finish line, that’s all that really mattered.
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