Not sure you are fighting the right battle here. The science is pretty clear that gas stoves are harmful, especially to children. Poor people have smaller spaces and therefore the pollutants from gas stoves are more concentrated. I think there are better 'anti-regulation' fights you can pick.
There are over-regulated things and we should support cutting red tape around them. this is not that.
I'd push for getting rid of local and state licensing for things like haircutting. Make it easier for non-college people to make a living.
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However, the report says, “a meta-analysis looking at the association between gas stoves and childhood asthma found children in homes with gas stoves have a 42 percent increased risk of experiencing asthma symptoms (current asthma), a 24 percent increased risk of ever being diagnosed with asthma by a doctor (lifetime asthma), and an overall 32 percent increased risk of both current and lifetime asthma.”
Lower-income households are more likely to have more people living in smaller spaces, with less ventilation. That puts them at greater risk of unsafe NO2 exposure, as does the heartbreaking practice among low-income homeowners, uncovered in several studies, of using their gas stoves as a source of heat to supplement weak or broken furnaces. Lower-income, African American, and Hispanic children already suffer asthma at higher rates than the national average, mainly because they are more likely to live near sources of outdoor air pollution (like roads and industrial facilities), which makes them more vulnerable to sources of indoor air pollution. Another 2018 study found that asthma costs the US $82 billion a year in “medical expenses, missed work and school days, and deaths,” all of which fall disproportionately on the most vulnerable.
- If you have reason to believe that something is bad on minorities BECAUSE they're minorities, then by all means, point it out and complain about it and fight it.
- If you have reason to believe that something is bad on poor people, writ large, then say "poor people." And be clear that you're feeling bad for an fighting for all poor people. Not just "brown and black" poor people.
It really seems like this has gotten WORSE over the years. It seems that "black and brown" is tagged on to "poor people issues" more than it used to be, regardless of whether there appears to be an actual racial component to it. And in those cases, it's really not right.
And one is really naive if you don't think that poor and working class white people don't notice this. And unfortunately, it makes them more receptive to the us-versus-them crap coming from Trump and so many other Rs.
Agreed, mostly. And many Hispanics are apparently and justifiably resentful of being lumped with African Americans in terms of poverty. And have moved a bit away from Dems as a result.
This is how actual, serious congresspeople with regulatory power talk and write nowadays:
"In a letter to the agency in December, lawmakers including Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey and Representative Don Beyer of Virginia, both Democrats, urged action and called gas-stove emissions a “cumulative burden” on Black, Latino and low-income households that disproportionately experience air pollution."
If I take this at face value, it VERY well may be silly, bleeding heart liberal stuff. And I'll be the first one to admit that sometime bleeding heart liberal stuff goes well past merely "silly" (see affirmative action, and plenty of other things).
And pre-Trump, someone who pointed out such things could easily be assumed NOT to be a moran.
But since Trump, pointing something out like this on a thread like this HIGHLY suggests that one is a moran.
Why? Because this thread is full of things - pointed out over and over again - that the current R party stands for that are nearly infinitely worse than what you've cited from these Ds. So, it makes looks like you're PROBABLY not able to properly weigh good and bad things. In fact, that you're probably REALLY, REALLY bad at it.
It should be embarrassing to you guys. And I'll give you an example of how EASY it is to be non-moranic: Liz Cheney likely agrees mostly or completely with your D mockery above. Yet, she also EASILY sees that the R party has sold its' soul.
SEE HOW EASY THAT IS ?? YOU CAN DO IT !!
I get it... you don't like Trump nor do I... not everything is about Trump.
I could say I don't like donuts and you would respond "how can you possibly complain about donuts rather than TRUMP."
If I take this at face value, it VERY well may be silly, bleeding heart liberal stuff. And I'll be the first one to admit that sometime bleeding heart liberal stuff goes well past merely "silly" (see affirmative action, and plenty of other things).
And pre-Trump, someone who pointed out such things could easily be assumed NOT to be a moran.
But since Trump, pointing something out like this on a thread like this HIGHLY suggests that one is a moran.
Why? Because this thread is full of things - pointed out over and over again - that the current R party stands for that are nearly infinitely worse than what you've cited from these Ds. So, it makes looks like you're PROBABLY not able to properly weigh good and bad things. In fact, that you're probably REALLY, REALLY bad at it.
It should be embarrassing to you guys. And I'll give you an example of how EASY it is to be non-moranic: Liz Cheney likely agrees mostly or completely with your D mockery above. Yet, she also EASILY sees that the R party has sold its' soul.
SEE HOW EASY THAT IS ?? YOU CAN DO IT !!
I get it... you don't like Trump nor do I... not everything is about Trump.
I could say I don't like donuts and you would respond "how can you possibly complain about donuts rather than TRUMP."
Let me just say that no one is getting away with saying bad things about donuts on my watch.
Yeah because now gas stoves are a leading cause of death /s
This approach to regulation has ruined other appliances like dishwashers. Takes forever to run a cycle now and the dishes don't get cleaned.
Not sure you are fighting the right battle here. The science is pretty clear that gas stoves are harmful, especially to children. Poor people have smaller spaces and therefore the pollutants from gas stoves are more concentrated. I think there are better 'anti-regulation' fights you can pick.
There are over-regulated things and we should support cutting red tape around them. this is not that.
I'd push for getting rid of local and state licensing for things like haircutting. Make it easier for non-college people to make a living.
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However, the report says, “a meta-analysis looking at the association between gas stoves and childhood asthma found children in homes with gas stoves have a 42 percent increased risk of experiencing asthma symptoms (current asthma), a 24 percent increased risk of ever being diagnosed with asthma by a doctor (lifetime asthma), and an overall 32 percent increased risk of both current and lifetime asthma.”
Lower-income households are more likely to have more people living in smaller spaces, with less ventilation. That puts them at greater risk of unsafe NO2 exposure, as does the heartbreaking practice among low-income homeowners, uncovered in several studies, of using their gas stoves as a source of heat to supplement weak or broken furnaces. Lower-income, African American, and Hispanic children already suffer asthma at higher rates than the national average, mainly because they are more likely to live near sources of outdoor air pollution (like roads and industrial facilities), which makes them more vulnerable to sources of indoor air pollution. Another 2018 study found that asthma costs the US $82 billion a year in “medical expenses, missed work and school days, and deaths,” all of which fall disproportionately on the most vulnerable.
Okay, depends on what regulatory action they take. If they're just going to require a warning label, that's no big deal. If they require ventilation hoods or something, I'd rather see that done at state and local levels. If they banned them outright nationwide, which he didn't rule out, that's huge overreach.
Two people familiar with the investigation informed CBS News that Attorney General Merrick Garland has directed the U.S. attorney in Chicago to examine classified materials discovered at the Penn Bide...
A complaint filed Monday with the Federal Election Commission accused Rep. George Santos (R-N.Y.), who has admitted to fabricating key details of his biography, of wide-ranging campaign finance violations. The alleged wrongdoing includes masking the true source of his campaign’s funding, misrepresenting his campaign’s spending and using campaign resources to cover personal expenses. The complaint, filed by the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center, could propel a formal investigation into Santos by the federal regulator, the latest chapter in a saga testing the boundaries of political falsehood. Santos has been revealed to have lied about his heritage, education and professional qualifications during his campaign for Congress last year.
I'd bet $20 that the House will impeach Biden for this, just out of revenge. Kevin knows it's stupid but he can't say no to the m'agas or Kevin will lose the gavel. We're all going to die.
I'd bet $20 that the House will impeach Biden for this, just out of revenge. Kevin knows it's stupid but he can't say no to the m'agas or Kevin will lose the gavel. We're all going to die.
I'd bet $20 that the House will impeach Biden for this, just out of revenge. Kevin knows it's stupid but he can't say no to the m'agas or Kevin will lose the gavel. We're all going to die.
Well, the Dems impeached Trump for a quid-pro-quo. Biden is essentially guilty of the same thing with Saudi Arabia, so based upon the standard set by the previous house, that is an impeachable offense. However, just as with the previous house, it would just be a waste of money, time and resources. The prosecution of the opposing party every couple of years is getting old.
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
This is how actual, serious congresspeople with regulatory power talk and write nowadays:
"In a letter to the agency in December, lawmakers including Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey and Representative Don Beyer of Virginia, both Democrats, urged action and called gas-stove emissions a “cumulative burden” on Black, Latino and low-income households that disproportionately experience air pollution."
Cooking with gas is fine (and even a little better for the environment in most parts of the country) so long as you have electric spark ignition and use your fume hood. I just got an induction cooktop, and have to admit it is pretty awesome. Gives you the control of gas and is more efficient than standard electric cooking.
likewise, got an induction and never going back.
The thing is so freakin' fast, too -brings stuff to a boil in half the time or less. Also, I like it because we are less likely to leave a burner on by mistake when we leave the house because it makes a little sound when on, and you are more aware of it as opposed to a gas flame.
Also, being just an integral glass cooktop, it is super easy to clean and keep spotless.
Funny thing is, right after we got it, a neighbor said that he was just starting to hear how gas stoves weren't so good to be around.
President Biden told a member of the El Paso Salvation Army that he spent time with the Secret Service in Poland and Ukraine, confusing the Salvation Army and Secret Service.
I'd bet $20 that the House will impeach Biden for this, just out of revenge. Kevin knows it's stupid but he can't say no to the m'agas or Kevin will lose the gavel. We're all going to die.
Well, the Dems impeached Trump for a quid-pro-quo. Biden is essentially guilty of the same thing with Saudi Arabia, so based upon the standard set by the previous house, that is an impeachable offense. However, just as with the previous house, it would just be a waste of money, time and resources. The prosecution of the opposing party every couple of years is getting old.
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Your view is that the president should be unimpeached when he extorts other nations for personal reasons and sends armed mobs to sack Congress.
Well, the Dems impeached Trump for a quid-pro-quo. Biden is essentially guilty of the same thing with Saudi Arabia, so based upon the standard set by the previous house, that is an impeachable offense. However, just as with the previous house, it would just be a waste of money, time and resources. The prosecution of the opposing party every couple of years is getting old.
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Your view is that the president should be unimpeached when he extorts other nations for personal reasons and sends armed mobs to sack Congress.
just so we’re clear.
So, you are saying that you feel Biden should be impeached for invoking a quid pro quo with Saudi Arabia? I feel it would be a waste of time and resources, but evidently you do not.
President Biden refused to answer questions Monday about the classified documents from his vice presidency that were found at his think tank in Washington, D.C.
And also Agip don't you agree that we should know what exactly Mayor Pete does as Transportation Sec? Besides taking a 2-month paternity leave and jetting off to Europe for fun and relaxation when the country is suffering.
Your view is that the president should be unimpeached when he extorts other nations for personal reasons and sends armed mobs to sack Congress.
just so we’re clear.
So, you are saying that you feel Biden should be impeached for invoking a quid pro quo with Saudi Arabia? I feel it would be a waste of time and resources, but evidently you do not.
Pretty much the entire world was pushing Saudi for a production increase because of the war and inflation, not just Biden. The accusation is stupid.
Pretty much the entire world was pushing Saudi for a production increase because of the war and inflation, not just Biden. The accusation is stupid.
And was the rest of the world leveraging their production increases on arms sales? Let's not forget that Biden beat Trump to the punch on initiating a quid pro quo with Ukraine by making $1B in aid dependent upon them stopping the investigation into his son's Burisma business dealings during the Obama Administration.
