Walmsley Making UTMB and Interval Session

O P wrote:

Most starches turn into sugar within minutes of entering your body. Fiber can slow the absorption, but also create GI issues.

Again you're confusing simple sugar with complex carbohydrates. Sugar goes into the bloodstream in spikes, at 100 times the rate of complex carbs. They are not the same thing. Eating a whole fruit is likewise much better than the sugar from concentrated sugar drinks, and has completely different effects on the body.

False. Maltodextrine breaks down into glucose very quickly. You can't generalize the behavior of all complex carbs.

It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of science.

Fat has slow gastric emptying, plus takes longer to convert into energy. Of course both systems work all the time, I was talking of fuel intake, not metabolism.

Wildhorse wrote:

Thanks for that podcast suggestion. Do you remember any episodes concerning the muscle activations in hill running? I've read some studies but just curious.

Training on avocados and then racing on gels is a recipe for disaster.

Wildhorse wrote:

False. Maltodextrine breaks down into glucose very quickly. You can't generalize the behavior of all complex carbs.

Seriously. You need to stop posting and go back to grade school.

Your premise is not right wrote:

The solution is to eat more complex carbohydrates, and to lower the high

concentrations of sugar. That is what Tim Tollefson does, and it works well for him.

This slight change is easy to make. Minor adjustments can remedy the issue.

Interesting. He's still sponsored by GU. Have you heard how he fueled this year?

Here's an interview after last year's UTMB:

Tollefson: Nutrition was pretty solid. I was using Roctane drinks that Gu makes. Early on I was drinking about one per hour. I talked Magda [Boulet] at Western States. She was doing that during her Western States win. She’d drink one bottle per hour. I was aiming for about one bottle per hour and then supplementing that with other stuff, but the last 50k here, Champex-Lac to the finish, it was heating up here. It got really warm and I historically do terrible in the heat. I was fearful that I would blow up. You’re exposed out there. At that point I started drinking two bottles an hour which is more than I’ve ever done. I was sweating so much. I was drinking 500 calories per hour at that point.

iRunFar: And it was going down?

Tollefson: It was going down. I wasn’t having any problems there. It was probably the best my nutrition has ever gone. During the night, there were times where I was drinking Coke in the aid stations and drinking some of their soup. Occasionally I was having these mini-sugar bonks after that where I’d get nauseous and feel lightheaded. It was a bit scary, but it never lasted longer than maybe 10 or 15 minutes which was nice.

I didn't see the interview from last year, but saw his post race interview this year where he mentioned the things he consumed through the race.

kljV wrote:

He just dropped Kilian and Zach in the first segment, then waited for Kilian to arrive 2 min later and then took off with Kilian. He was interviewed and said he can out-run Kilian all day, so just hang with him and his experience.

Minor adjustments wrote:

I didn't see the interview from last year, but saw his post race interview this year where he mentioned the things he consumed through the race.

Not a lot of details here, but sounds like he planned to use pretty much just GU but got some cookies and soup when he got sick of FU:

Tollefson: One thing was that all my training and Speedgoat, I stayed with one flavor of Gu Roctane and this Summit Tea was working or me. I knew this was the one. It had some caffeine in it, and I love it. Then 10 hours in, and maybe it was the cold, I just wasn’t stomaching it the way I thought. Thankfully my crew had some back-up flavors. Just even something like that, flavor changes, was huge. I thought, Okay, now I can consume this again.

iRunFar: You prepared yourself ahead where even though you had that favorite flavor, you had a fallback.

Tollefson: Yeah, there were some contingency plans, so also in the moment, I wasn’t able to get the calories in, so then at the aid stations, Okay, what can I take in here to supplement until I see my crew in four more hours? That’s a long time where I can’t implement my contingency plan. I started consuming a lot of soup. I was eating cookies off the table. I was trying to mitigate this potential bonk I could definitely see on the horizon had I not been able to get enough in.

SOUPer wrote:

Tollefson: Yeah, there were some contingency plans, so also in the moment, I wasn’t able to get the calories in, so then at the aid stations, Okay, what can I take in here to supplement until I see my crew in four more hours? That’s a long time where I can’t implement my contingency plan. I started consuming a lot of soup. I was eating cookies off the table. I was trying to mitigate this potential bonk I could definitely see on the horizon had I not been able to get enough in.

My take on this is that Tollesfson was getting not enough energy, because of too much sugar too fast. The same thing happened to Walmsley, and is the normal result that happens to anyone. Consuming soup and cookies helped to normalize his inflow of energy.

Rick Sanchez wrote:

Sage!

100 iHop Pancakes

100 Miles

100 hours

Can you do this?!?!

Sage!!

You know you wanna try this.

Train your stomach... no more GI problems!

I just now joined Strava, and found Walmsley's profile but it doesn't show any stats.

If his UTMB stats are on there, how do I find them?

on Ultrarunnerpodcast.com interview with Tollefson

http://ultrarunnerpodcast.com/tim-tollefson-utmb-2017-interview/

on Walmsley:

Host "I just wish he'd learn all the lessons and get on with it"

Tollefson: "I don't"

- sounds like that's what his reply was, if so. pew pew! #CappuccinoCowboys