Just like the Portuguese athlete in the 4x400 it looked like she just veered in without looking. Haven’t seen that much, and it looked like Getachew earned her position fair and square.
I just watched the replay and don’t thing her move would deserve a DQ. It was clearly not intentional, it didn’t impact the race outcome and Werro didn’t insist and stayed behind.
Getachew for sure didn’t commit any mistake and her race tactics was fully legit, but her first 400m was way too fast given her current potential; in the last 200m she was cooked and closed in 16.93 for the final 100m.
Indirectly, Getachew quick start probably costed Werro a sub 1:56 time if she could have stayed behind Keely. Werro is often not a very strong finisher, but today she closed in 14.44, 0.21 faster than Keely and 1.25 faster than Wiley. Despite such suboptimal tactical race, Werro’s 1:56.64 is the all-time #5 performer, behind extraterrestrial Hodgkinson and 3 more than likely doped Ceplak, Graf and Wachtel.
Can’t wait for the outdoor season, Keely may definitely have a chance to beat the WR or at least to break 1:54 if she remains healthy. Werro certainly has the potential to run sub 1:55 this year.
Wiley also raced perfectly and had an impressive progression this winter.
Heck, if Meaghan Hunter did not get a DQ for her egregious move in front of Wiley at USATFs last year, then there is no way that Werro deserved a DQ. Incidental contact and nobody really lost their stride for more than a second.
I’m thinking Keely has the training/strength to get through this, though she’s had to run three very solid 800s including the flat-out final just minutes ago. But this is bread and butter to her.
I’m less sure that a 60m-focused Dina is going to get around that second lap in under 28.
Since I talked disparagingly, it’s only fair to complete the record…
Dina Asher-Smith split 53.29 (24.48 / 26.81) … not fast, but she didn’t rig as hard as I feared.
On a related note, how do they measure these splits so accurately? Is the footage analysed to see when the baton crossed the line, incoming runner crosses the line, sensor in the baton? It wouldn't make sense to measure from when the baton was passed over, too much uncertainty time and distance wise to be able to give splits to 1/100th.
On a related note, how do they measure these splits so accurately? Is the footage analysed to see when the baton crossed the line, incoming runner crosses the line, sensor in the baton? It wouldn't make sense to measure from when the baton was passed over, too much uncertainty time and distance wise to be able to give splits to 1/100th.
Even though they report the splits to 1/100th, I wouldn't trust they are accurate even to 1/10th of a second.
On a related note, how do they measure these splits so accurately? Is the footage analysed to see when the baton crossed the line, incoming runner crosses the line, sensor in the baton? It wouldn't make sense to measure from when the baton was passed over, too much uncertainty time and distance wise to be able to give splits to 1/100th.
It's when the baton crosses the line, not the athlete, and always has been. That way it's consistent & you are always measuring 400m (lap to lap) rather than when the baton is passed, which may be before or after the line, & inconsistent. It's why, if a baton is passed 'early', the outgoing runner is already moving, and thus has the benefit of a 'rolling start', which can be 0.7 to 1 secs.
Of all the unserious takes in this thread, reading "Athlete A is older" in a comparison of two athletes born less than a hundred days apart. Surely that's just trolling.
As the guy above has just posted, the BBC suggested Hodgkinson would be competing in the 4x400 at the GWG. After that 50.10 split, she will most certainly be given the option, as we don't have 4 women OUTdoors that can split that fast to bump her off.
I don't know what other superlative to use to describe her performance here other than amazing. Knowing she had the 4x4 an hour later, she could have easily run a slower race in the knowledge her speed is better than anyone else's, but she chose to go hard & run a time that would have been a WR just 4 weeks ago. Respect! I hope she takes a big break now, because in this last month she has pushed her body further than it's ever been.
One assumes Yemi Mary John was injured & hence DNS the 4x4. It was a real shame re GBR leg 1, as she basically ruined it for the rest of the team. Had she split in the 52s and it would have been extremely interesting.
A USA C team can beat a Dutch B team who can beat Spanish & Polish A teams. I'm not sure what I would call the GBR team... a mish mash?
The Dutch successfully showed that, indoors at least, they can still medal without Bol (or Peeters & de Witte...). Kudos to Klaver for running a tactical leg & getting the better of Bukowiecka. I thought Saalberg was going to crumble in those final meters, but maybe that 800m training paid off. Nina Franke, their third leg runner, hasn't broken 52.9 this winter, missed the final at the nationals, yet was able to run a leg 1.3 faster with 51. Compare that to GBR's Lousia Stoney, who has run 51.8 this season, yet split 1.1 secs slower with a 52.9 leg. Stoney is so slow over that first 200m, she is not a good choice for indoor 4x4s.
I was massively disappointed in Anna Hall's performance. She's one of only two women that have been over 5000 indoors & 7000 outdoors. She should not have lost to Dokter, regardless of whether the Dutch woman set the 13th best performance ever; Hall should have lifted her game.
They were level in the hurdles, but Dokter significantly out-jumped her, & that's where you get the points (HJ & LJ). Kudos to Hall's attempt in the 800m, which was typically brave & impressive, but she shouldn't even have been in that position in the first place.
Thiam was the great champion because she had guts, held her nerve & could be competitive & react even when challenged or not at her best. Hall seems to be lacking something. When it didn't go right in the hurdles, she should have bounced back in the HJ. Instead she underperformed again - whilst Dokter overperformed - & it continued into the SP: she was way down on what she should have thrown. The LJ we know is a problem for her at the moment, which is why she should have reacted & lifted her game sooner. She aint gonna do it in her most troublesome event. So then it ended up being a 'KJT situation', where she had to run an amazing 800m to win. She nearly did....but didn't.
Dokter is brilliant & is going to make a big jump outdoors no doubt...but she is not at Hall's level. Let's hope she has learnt from this.
The Dutch successfully showed that, indoors at least, they can still medal without Bol (or Peeters & de Witte...). Kudos to Klaver for running a tactical leg & getting the better of Bukowiecka. I thought Saalberg was going to crumble in those final meters, but maybe that 800m training paid off. Nina Franke, their third leg runner, hasn't broken 52.9 this winter, missed the final at the nationals, yet was able to run a leg 1.3 faster with 51. Compare that to GBR's Lousia Stoney, who has run 51.8 this season, yet split 1.1 secs slower with a 52.9 leg. Stoney is so slow over that first 200m, she is not a good choice for indoor 4x4s.
Meuwly got the lineup and order exactly right for the indoor women's 4 x 400 final. That's what saved the medal chances. Contrast to the men's relay where the Dutch deservedly paid a price for using Liemarvin Bonevacia twice in the same day, at his age.
Klaver had to go first indoors, toward clean water. Otherwise there's far too much risk of being buried into irrelevancy from the outset. Nina Franke is a gamer. Likewise with Myrte van der Schoot. Substituting them into the final was the best combo.
My only question was whether it should be Saalberg or de Witte at anchor. Like yourself I expected Saalberg to falter late. She greatly exceeded my expectations, especially after running the prelim earlier in the day. Lisanne de Witte has more natural closing ability than Saalberg. But at her age and lack of much racing this year, Lisanne was more of an unknown quantity. With Saalberg it was like playing it safer toward a minor medal while acknowledging that she had almost no chance to overtake Shamier Little.
I don't know what is going on with Cathelijn Peeters. It is now nearly a year since she raced. The Dutch didn't need Bol to win that relay. A healthy Peeters would have sufficed.
Outdoors there is no legitimate prospect of a Bol-less lineup to grab a medal.
I was massively disappointed in Anna Hall's performance. She's one of only two women that have been over 5000 indoors & 7000 outdoors. She should not have lost to Dokter, regardless of whether the Dutch woman set the 13th best performance ever; Hall should have lifted her game.
They were level in the hurdles, but Dokter significantly out-jumped her, & that's where you get the points (HJ & LJ). Kudos to Hall's attempt in the 800m, which was typically brave & impressive, but she shouldn't even have been in that position in the first place.
Thiam was the great champion because she had guts, held her nerve & could be competitive & react even when challenged or not at her best. Hall seems to be lacking something. When it didn't go right in the hurdles, she should have bounced back in the HJ. Instead she underperformed again - whilst Dokter overperformed - & it continued into the SP: she was way down on what she should have thrown. The LJ we know is a problem for her at the moment, which is why she should have reacted & lifted her game sooner. She aint gonna do it in her most troublesome event. So then it ended up being a 'KJT situation', where she had to run an amazing 800m to win. She nearly did....but didn't.
Dokter is brilliant & is going to make a big jump outdoors no doubt...but she is not at Hall's level. Let's hope she has learnt from this.
Anna Hall has a herky jerky running style and that really impacts her long jump. She adjusts her late steps to the board and ends up chopping sideways. That has equated to many sub-6 meter jumps in various competitions recently.
Consequently once it moved to the long jump with Dokter and O'Connor still in touch, I knew Hall was in big trouble. Dokter is considerably more fluid and almost always attacks her second and third jumps toward a big number. Anna Hall at that stage was essentially dependent on Dokter fouling both times. It didn't happen.
You are correct that Dokter is not at Hall's level. This result will likely lead to inflated expectations, like with Emma Oosterwegel after Tokyo 2021.