Nobody cares even now. She’s been replaced by a much classier MJW.
Whoever is pushing the USA track PR bull crap needs to recognize that Shacarri is not the face of the sport, nor does anyone want her to be. She’s an abuser who has a million excuses every single time it doesn’t go her way. If Coleman had pushed her at the airport, he would’ve lost sponsorships, and been publicly humiliated yet all I’m seeing is swift cover up no consequences for her actions. But yet…. I thought everyone was equal and should be treated as such? Or is that only in instances where the man is at fault? The hypocrisy is absolutely disgusting.
Wait - is this racist? Just checking because any time anyone dares call it like it is with SCR, it seems like the easiest out is to pivot and call them one.
No racism detected from PNW's comment. People perceive YOU as being racist because you often assail the character of black people, and you revel in their failures.
Late to party and just watched coverage. Very annoyed they cut away to field events in middle of races, especially M1500 with PV miss - they couldn't show replay after race is over? Missed entire lap. Flotrack also had separate field feeds so what the hell?! This is not how to attract new viewers either - totally chopped up a really good race. I know they just get world feed but WA needs to get it together.
Late to party and just watched coverage. Very annoyed they cut away to field events in middle of races, especially M1500 with PV miss - they couldn't show replay after race is over? Missed entire lap. Flotrack also had separate field feeds so what the hell?! This is not how to attract new viewers either - totally chopped up a really good race. I know they just get world feed but WA needs to get it together.
That one was weird…can’t remember a cutaway from a 1500 in the past on the world feed. It’s under 4 minutes, we can watch one vault on replay.
Firstly 8.07.04 is an incredible time, but I felt she didn't look super comfortable after even 1200m and with 600 to go I wondered if she would even break 8.10 For a 1500m runner that 1000m from 1600-2600m is always the toughest - if you can get to 400 to go you always feel like you can just grind out a good finish using your anaerobic power.
Considering that is her first real attempt at time trialling the distance, that was really good. The question is how badly does she want the record - the women seem to run the 3000m even less then the men do. El G put it out there in 99 and even though he got as close as anyone did for 25+ years, he was kind of like "yeah no thanks" to going after it again.
Her best performance (purely time wise) ever I think.
Do we get another post about Tsegay "running like an idiot" to a 30m win?
Yes. Because clearly her goal in these races is to break the world record. And you don't do that by running a 57-second second lap. She's entertaining as hell but she does not pace herself correctly.
I'm not sure if it's correct but the 800 was really 2:02.× to 2:03.x. So John should look into it. If you have the feed time it yourself
No Phanuel Koech. No Jonah Koech. No Hocker. No Kerr. No Jakob. No Laros. No Habz.
It was a nice win, but this was a weak field.
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Ironically, this win will probably set Nuguse back. It will fuel a misguided belief that he a top 1500 runner when in actuality it is time for him to move up to the 5000.
Yeah me too. idk why, maybe it’s a scando thing, too distant
yes. that's it. I made a post saying this very thing several hours ago, but the site was glitching and didn't send it through. Scandanavians are different.
Kenny not even fast enough to be the runner up princess this time.
All these guys running fast times in D tier races, never show up when the best are out there.
Kenny ran his 9.79 PB at the U.S. championships. I wouldn't call the U.S. championships a "D tier" race. Kenny is also a three-time global championship silver medalist. He has an established track record of showing up when facing the best in the biggest races.
The USATF 100m had a big, 1.8, tailwind. Make the 0.0 and the winning time is about 9.99, and all the rest were over ten.
Anyone else see how much Thompson drifted in the lane in that overhead shot? He was almost into lane 6 midway through, but then he went the other way near the finish line and almost finished in lane 4. It didn't hurt him today, but he can't do that at Worlds. Lyles is closing the gap and that sort of mistake could cost him the gold medal.
Yes, I saw it immediately and it's an overlooked topic in the 100 to begin with. Many of them throw away time by running slightly more distance than necessary. In swimming it's called circle swimming and is a frequent topic on those forums, especially with backstrokers.
The most common flaw in the track 100 sprint is curving left toward the finish as if you are running the bend. I have no idea why any of them do that. Who cares if the bend is just beyond the finish line? Remain in the middle and keep running straight. That's the shortest distance and will prevent you from throwing away a precious hundredth.
Kishane Thompson is a big guy with a gangly running style. It's not nearly as evident from the traditional side view as head on.
That's not going to happen. Bol ran 50.95 at altitude last year. She'll never break that personal best unless she races there again. That meet wasn't held this year due to grandstand renovations. It's becoming a higher profile meet due to potential for fast times.
I'm a Femke Bol fan. I'm not convinced she will have an easy time in Tokyo. Her new stride pattern makes it very easy to run 52 range. But it limits her upside. I posted that as soon as I saw it on debut this year. Even discounting that 50.95, she had 51.45 by this point in 2023 and 51.30 last year. Today was her 2025 low at 51.92.
Bol now starts slower due to using her weaker right lead on hurdle 1. More significantly, she is using 15 steps on 7 instead of 14 the past two years. That means she has to shorten stride and circle wide around that bend.
Anna Cockrell is a sandbagger who intentionally never plays her hand until the global final. Femke Bol could be in trouble if all of a sudden a 51.5 version of Anna Cockrell shows up in an adjacent lane. I'll be looking at those betting odds. Bol is deserved favorite but it could be value elsewhere.
And in the w100m, MJW now has four marks that adjusting to Basic (0.0mps) are all about 10.66. I think these are the marks, wind, and adjusted time
10.66/0.1 10.66
10.65/0.4 10.67
10.75/-1.5 10.67
10.72(?)/-1.4 10.65.
Not certain that the last two are right exactly but that's one of the best seasons ever.
Alfred is the only one close really and I would give MJW a slight edge over Alfred, and the field about 5 percent or less if the Claytons don't get their early form back.
Except Chebet is absolutely capable of 3:51 or better. People here think that talent can be unique and super specific to a particular distance -- but that's not the way physiology works. Chebet's 13:58 plus her 56/26s closing ability at 400/200 suggest she absolutely has both the wheels and the engine for a 3:50 run. This was her first "real" 1500m as a pro. Today was her first meeting with the distance, a "hello". Once they get to know each other, we will see something special from Chebet. I don't see what's so controversial about this. 3:54 is not her ceiling.
Absolutely agreed. This was her first 1500 outside Kenya. None of her prior times were relevant at all. And this race was hardly representative of her upside.
Most of the talk was about what happens to Kipyegon's legacy if Chebet gets the record, not definitive statements that Chebet would do it now. I certainly thought Chebet would be closer and perhaps win.
But that was immediately gone once Tsegay took off. I quickly remembered Tsegay's long losing streak against Chebet. She wasn't going to let it happen again.
BTW, I can see why Welteji pulled out late. She must have been made aware of Tsegay's plan. Being in a race like that wouldn't have benefitted Welteji at all. It would have looked like her predicament at world indoor finals last March.
Except Chebet is absolutely capable of 3:51 or better. People here think that talent can be unique and super specific to a particular distance -- but that's not the way physiology works. Chebet's 13:58 plus her 56/26s closing ability at 400/200 suggest she absolutely has both the wheels and the engine for a 3:50 run. This was her first "real" 1500m as a pro. Today was her first meeting with the distance, a "hello". Once they get to know each other, we will see something special from Chebet. I don't see what's so controversial about this. 3:54 is not her ceiling.
Absolutely agreed. This was her first 1500 outside Kenya. None of her prior times were relevant at all. And this race was hardly representative of her upside.
Most of the talk was about what happens to Kipyegon's legacy if Chebet gets the record, not definitive statements that Chebet would do it now. I certainly thought Chebet would be closer and perhaps win.
But that was immediately gone once Tsegay took off. I quickly remembered Tsegay's long losing streak against Chebet. She wasn't going to let it happen again.
BTW, I can see why Welteji pulled out late. She must have been made aware of Tsegay's plan. Being in a race like that wouldn't have benefitted Welteji at all. It would have looked like her predicament at world indoor finals last March.
I thought that was a stupid point by Rojo on the podcast. Kipyegon's WR will fall at some point and even if it goes in the next year, it doesn't affect her legacy one iota. She's the three time Olympic champion at the 1500. That's unique. Cheptegei breaking Bekele's WRs doesn't diminish his legacy. As a body of work, Kipyegon's is unparalleled over 1500, and I believe it will remain that way for a long time.