When will legacy carmakers overtake Tesla EV sales?

The Model X is over-engineered. But some people still love them.

So non-Teslas who are waiting on an occupied stall will not be part of the equation? Tesla could direct me to a location with 50 people waiting for a stall to open up and bypass one with only 5 waiting for open stalls?

Never needed even for non-Teslas?

Do you know why they could be unreliable and people still say they live them? Or do you not want to discuss that?

non-Teslas will be part of the equation. They will work just like any other car.

I never said they were unreliable. I said they were over-engineered.

However, Tesla will not know that there are other EVs waiting to charge or on their way to charge. Tesla could direct me to a charging station that has 50 people waiting and bypass one with only 5.

Yes, they will know. It will work just like all the other cars except that non-Teslas will use an app instead of software built into the vehicle.

If non-Teslas don't have the APP can they call ahead to let the charging station they are in route?

As I understand it, they will be required to use the app. But we will see once it rolls out.

If you are really interested, you could research how it is working in Europe.

I would rather just show up at the charging station.

Will Tesla modify the charging stations so other EVs can reach the charging port from any spot? The way they're designed now, most EVs would have to take up 2 spots in order for the cord to reach. I'm sure Tesla owners will like that

I thought you’d never ask.
I’ll tell you what is actually going on, not what I’m thinking.

I assume that you are ignorant to the segments of customer of (technology) product adoption. I’ll give you a small primer and how it currently relates to Tesla.

There are 5 common segments - innovators, early adopters, early majority, late majority and laggards.

Currently, Tesla is selling primarily to the innovators segment and slowly moving into the early adopters. Innovators are characterized by being the first customers to buy/try a product. They are risk takers, have sort of connection with or affinity for the technology. They have a lower expectation for the product and understand the ultimate vision or purpose for the product even though the current product may not be delivering that vision. They tend to be wealthier and are willing to pay premiums for this early phase of adoption. These people often are members of social groups in which they interact with other innovators of the same product. They derive their social status from being in the innovator phase of a product. They take pride in being the first in their peer group to own a new product. This group is two stdev from mean adoption.

These innovators and those moving into the early adopter phase are more likely to have to deal with product issues and patience with them. As you move into the early and later majority phases, these owners are less likely to tolerate product issues since their expectation is different.

I was an innovator for the first smart phones. I didn’t care that mine dropped calls regularly, was buggy, and had poor integration. What little it did do well (or differently) and the fact that I owned one was all that mattered to me. It was novel and I understood what it could become, not what it was. If I were to own that same phone as a early majority, I would think it was a piece of crap.

Now with Tesla still being in the innovators phase and slowly moving into early adopters, people are more willing to put up with unreliability in their car. Even though Teslas are unreliable, poorly made and buggy, owners can still be highly satisfied with them. They have different expectations and reasons for ownership in this segment.

Again, it is not surprising that Tesla can have a poor reliability rating AND have high customer satisfaction. In fact, it is what you would expect at this point in the product adoption.

It is not because of some ludicrous conspiracy that Consumer Reports methodology is flawed or that everyone wants to put a hit out on Tesla. That’s just silly.

Furthermore, if Tesla wants to move into the latter stages of early adoption and into early majority, it will need to improve on the reliability issues, build quality and software quality. People in these larger segments will not tolerate these issues and Tesla will ultimately fail.

You’re welcome for the lesson. Any questions?

I’ll have to make an appointment to charge my car? That sounds cumbersome.

Here in Texas we have Buccee's. Replace all the gas pumps with charging stations and you will never have to wait. These Buccee's have like 100 gas pumps.

Then you can't use a Supercharger. I believe that the only way to pay will be through the app.

I'm sure Tesla has thought of that.

Paying is fine, but having to make a reservation to charge is cumbersome.

Fat Hurts - you own a Chevy Bolt which has had terrible problems with fires. Will Chevy Bolts be able to charge at the charging stations? Will Tesla owners want to be charging next to a Chevy Bolt?