First of all, you need to go find the person who told you Russians were white and confront him or her. Demand your money back, or something. Don't tolerate being lied to about your heritage.
Second of all, you just seem to woke to understand that the Moskva is now at the bottom of the Black Sea, and there is nothing you Russians can do about it. Nothing. The Moskva was the flagship of the Russian Black Sea fleet and now it's rusting at the bottom of the sea. Hundreds of you woke scumbags are dead. Dead as fish. Your country has been humiliated, yet again. Here you can see your beloved Moskva, minutes before it sank. Stop being so woke and observe reality for what it is. Jesus Christ, you can't go through life all deluded and woke like this.
Hahaha. There it is. The woke fecal matter. Yes, please tell me what the Russians are. I need a good laugh. What have the woke started calling them? Are we #cancelling white? The woke would love to cancel 200 million whites. But wait, if they're not white then they're part of diversity and you have to embrace them and let them in the country, give them plane tickets to various us cities, immediate citizenship, and jobs and monies. Omg, what are you going to do now??
Take it easy. We're not making a goddam Western here. We're discussing your woke mentality and brainstorming on how to cure your woke thinking.
When did you first notice you were woke? Are all your scumbag Russian relatives similarly woke? We need to get to the bottom of this, so we can stop your woke grandstanding. You look like an idiot in denial over the sinking of the Moskva. The Moskva got canceled. #nonwhiteRussiansailorsonMoskvagotblowntoshift
Why are my tax payer dollars being laundered through corrupt sh-tholes like Ukraine?
Why don't we stay the fu-k out of it?
Troll or just ignorant?
You mean why were US diplomats, including the US ambassador to Ukraine, discussing events happening in Ukraine? Gee silly rabbit. Maybe it's their job to discuss such things.
Because it's a great way to kill a bunch of pathetic Russians without risking American lives. And, because it javelins hitting T-72s is like the best thing going on You Tube. And, because an overwhelming majority of Americans believe (even if somewhat hypocritically) in the sovereignty of Ukraine (and that Russia shouldn't just get the annex land because they want to).
Because isolationist BS doesn't work in a global economy, as I'm sure anyone with even a modicum of understanding of economics knows.
For less than the cost of a Netflix subscription, we get to watch Russia crumble in real time. I know it's hard for Russians to understand, because they are so poor, but Americans like spending their tax dollars to defeat evil empires. The US spent nearly $10 trillion dollars on the military during the cold war. $44 billion is pocket change compared to what the US gains from a stable Europe and a weakened Russia.
There's more than one evil empire. China, under the CCP is a greater economic & existential threat to the U.S. than Russia ever was or ever will be. Since you're all about spending our tax dollars to bring down these evil empires can you point us to anything you've posted here about defeating the evil empire in Beijing?
If China decides to expose their military with a massive land invasion, the US will gladly pony up the money to held the country being attacked. But Winnie the Pooh isn't nearly as dumb as Putin, so that seems unlikely.
For less than the cost of a Netflix subscription, we get to watch Russia crumble in real time. I know it's hard for Russians to understand, because they are so poor, but Americans like spending their tax dollars to defeat evil empires. The US spent nearly $10 trillion dollars on the military during the cold war. $44 billion is pocket change compared to what the US gains from a stable Europe and a weakened Russia.
There's more than one evil empire. China, under the CCP is a greater economic & existential threat to the U.S. than Russia ever was or ever will be. Since you're all about spending our tax dollars to bring down these evil empires can you point us to anything you've posted here about defeating the evil empire in Beijing?
If China decides to expose their military with a massive land invasion, the US will gladly pony up the money to held the country being attacked. But Winnie the Pooh isn't nearly as dumb as Putin, so that seems unlikely.
Isn't lovely how the Liberals and Neo-Cons have now been uncovered to be one???...
"As the Ukrainian army squares off against ultra-right and neo-Nazi militias in the west and violence against ethnic Russians continues in the east, the obvious folly of the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy has come into focus even for many who tried to ignore the facts, or what you might call “the mess that Victoria Nuland made.” Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs “Toria” Nuland was the “mastermind” behind the Feb. 22, 2014 “regime change” in Ukraine, plotting the overthrow of the democratically elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych while convincing the ever-gullible US mainstream media that the coup wasn’t really a coup but a victory for “democracy.”
Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, who pushed for the Ukraine coup and helped pick the post-coup leaders. To sell this latest neocon-driven “regime change” to the American people, the ugliness of the coup-makers had to be systematically airbrushed, particularly the key role of neo-Nazis and other ultra-nationalists from the Right Sektor. For the US-organized propaganda campaign to work, the coup-makers had to wear white hats, not brown shirts.
So, for nearly a year and a half, the West’s mainstream media, especially The New York Times and The Washington Post, twisted their reporting into all kinds of contortions to avoid telling their readers that the new regime in Kiev was permeated by and dependent on neo-Nazi fighters and Ukrainian ultra-nationalists who wanted a pure-blood Ukraine, without ethnic Russians.
Any mention of that sordid reality was deemed “Russian propaganda” and anyone who spoke this inconvenient truth was a “stooge of Moscow.” It wasn’t until July 7 that the Times admitted the importance of the neo-Nazis and other ultra-nationalists in waging war against ethnic Russian rebels in the east. The Times also reported that these far-right forces had been joined by Islamic militants. Some of those jihadists have been called “brothers” of the hyper-brutal Islamic State.
Though the Times sought to spin this remarkable military alliance – neo-Nazi militias and Islamic jihadists – as a positive, the reality had to be jarring for readers who had bought into the Western propaganda about noble “pro-democracy” forces resisting evil “Russian aggression.” Perhaps the Times sensed that it could no longer keep the lid on the troubling truth in Ukraine. For weeks, the Right Sektor militias and the neo-Nazi Azov battalion have been warning the civilian government in Kiev that they might turn on it and create a new order more to their liking.
Clashes in the West
Then, on Saturday, violent clashes broke out in the western Ukrainian town of Mukachevo, allegedly over the control of cigarette-smuggling routes. Right Sektor paramilitaries sprayed police officers with bullets from a belt-fed machinegun, and police – backed by Ukrainian government troops – returned fire. Several deaths and multiple injuries were reported.
Tensions escalated on Monday with President Petro Poroshenko ordering national security forces to disarm “armed cells” of political movements. Meanwhile, the Right Sektor dispatched reinforcements to the area while other militiamen converged on the capital of Kiev. While President Poroshenko and Right Sektor leader Dmitry Yarosh may succeed in tamping down this latest flare-up of hostilities, they may be only postponing the inevitable: a conflict between the US-backed authorities in Kiev and the neo-Nazis and other right-wing fighters who spearheaded last year’s coup and have been at the front lines of the fighting against ethnic Russian rebels in the east.
The Ukrainian right-wing extremists feel they have carried the heaviest burden in the war against the ethnic Russians and resent the politicians living in the relative safety and comfort of Kiev. In March, Poroshenko also fired thuggish oligarch Igor Kolomoisky as governor of the southeastern province of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast. Kolomoisky had been the primary benefactor of the Right Sektor militias. So, as has become apparent across Europe and even in Washington, the Ukraine crisis is spinning out of control, making the State Department’s preferred narrative of the conflict – that it’s all Russian President Vladimir Putin’s fault – harder and harder to sell.
How Ukraine is supposed to pull itself out of what looks like a death spiral – a possible two-front war in the east and the west along with a crashing economy – is hard to comprehend. The European Union, confronting budgetary crises over Greece and other EU members, has little money or patience for Ukraine, its neo-Nazis and its socio-political chaos.
America’s neocons at The Washington Post and elsewhere still rant about the need for the Obama administration to sink more billions upon billions of dollars into post-coup Ukraine because it “shares our values.” But that argument, too, is collapsing as Americans see the heart of a racist nationalism beating inside Ukraine’s new order. Another Neocon “Regime Change”
Much of what has happened, of course, was predictable and indeed was predicted, but neocon Nuland couldn’t resist the temptation to pull off a “regime change” that she could call her own.
Her husband (and arch-neocon) Robert Kagan had co-founded the Project for the New American Century in 1998 around a demand for “regime change” in Iraq, a project that was accomplished in 2003 with President George W. Bush’s invasion.
As with Nuland in Ukraine, Kagan and his fellow neocons thought they could engineer an easy invasion of Iraq, oust Saddam Hussein and install some hand-picked client – in Iraq, Ahmed Chalabi was to be “the guy.” But they failed to take into account the harsh realities of Iraq, such as the fissures between Sunnis and Shiites, exposed by the US-led invasion and occupation.
In Ukraine, Nuland and her neocon and liberal-interventionist friends saw the chance to poke Putin in the eye by encouraging violent protests to overthrow Russia-friendly President Yanukovych and put in place a new regime hostile to Moscow."
A transcript of the alleged conversation between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt discussing the crisis in Ukraine.
Isn't lovely how the Liberals and Neo-Cons have now been uncovered to be one???...
"As the Ukrainian army squares off against ultra-right and neo-Nazi militias in the west and violence against ethnic Russians continues in the east, the obvious folly of the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy has come into focus even for many who tried to ignore the facts, or what you might call “the mess that Victoria Nuland made.” Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs “Toria” Nuland was the “mastermind” behind the Feb. 22, 2014 “regime change” in Ukraine, plotting the overthrow of the democratically elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych while convincing the ever-gullible US mainstream media that the coup wasn’t really a coup but a victory for “democracy.”
Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, who pushed for the Ukraine coup and helped pick the post-coup leaders. To sell this latest neocon-driven “regime change” to the American people, the ugliness of the coup-makers had to be systematically airbrushed, particularly the key role of neo-Nazis and other ultra-nationalists from the Right Sektor. For the US-organized propaganda campaign to work, the coup-makers had to wear white hats, not brown shirts.
So, for nearly a year and a half, the West’s mainstream media, especially The New York Times and The Washington Post, twisted their reporting into all kinds of contortions to avoid telling their readers that the new regime in Kiev was permeated by and dependent on neo-Nazi fighters and Ukrainian ultra-nationalists who wanted a pure-blood Ukraine, without ethnic Russians.
Any mention of that sordid reality was deemed “Russian propaganda” and anyone who spoke this inconvenient truth was a “stooge of Moscow.” It wasn’t until July 7 that the Times admitted the importance of the neo-Nazis and other ultra-nationalists in waging war against ethnic Russian rebels in the east. The Times also reported that these far-right forces had been joined by Islamic militants. Some of those jihadists have been called “brothers” of the hyper-brutal Islamic State.
Though the Times sought to spin this remarkable military alliance – neo-Nazi militias and Islamic jihadists – as a positive, the reality had to be jarring for readers who had bought into the Western propaganda about noble “pro-democracy” forces resisting evil “Russian aggression.” Perhaps the Times sensed that it could no longer keep the lid on the troubling truth in Ukraine. For weeks, the Right Sektor militias and the neo-Nazi Azov battalion have been warning the civilian government in Kiev that they might turn on it and create a new order more to their liking.
Clashes in the West
Then, on Saturday, violent clashes broke out in the western Ukrainian town of Mukachevo, allegedly over the control of cigarette-smuggling routes. Right Sektor paramilitaries sprayed police officers with bullets from a belt-fed machinegun, and police – backed by Ukrainian government troops – returned fire. Several deaths and multiple injuries were reported.
Tensions escalated on Monday with President Petro Poroshenko ordering national security forces to disarm “armed cells” of political movements. Meanwhile, the Right Sektor dispatched reinforcements to the area while other militiamen converged on the capital of Kiev. While President Poroshenko and Right Sektor leader Dmitry Yarosh may succeed in tamping down this latest flare-up of hostilities, they may be only postponing the inevitable: a conflict between the US-backed authorities in Kiev and the neo-Nazis and other right-wing fighters who spearheaded last year’s coup and have been at the front lines of the fighting against ethnic Russian rebels in the east.
The Ukrainian right-wing extremists feel they have carried the heaviest burden in the war against the ethnic Russians and resent the politicians living in the relative safety and comfort of Kiev. In March, Poroshenko also fired thuggish oligarch Igor Kolomoisky as governor of the southeastern province of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast. Kolomoisky had been the primary benefactor of the Right Sektor militias. So, as has become apparent across Europe and even in Washington, the Ukraine crisis is spinning out of control, making the State Department’s preferred narrative of the conflict – that it’s all Russian President Vladimir Putin’s fault – harder and harder to sell.
How Ukraine is supposed to pull itself out of what looks like a death spiral – a possible two-front war in the east and the west along with a crashing economy – is hard to comprehend. The European Union, confronting budgetary crises over Greece and other EU members, has little money or patience for Ukraine, its neo-Nazis and its socio-political chaos.
America’s neocons at The Washington Post and elsewhere still rant about the need for the Obama administration to sink more billions upon billions of dollars into post-coup Ukraine because it “shares our values.” But that argument, too, is collapsing as Americans see the heart of a racist nationalism beating inside Ukraine’s new order. Another Neocon “Regime Change”
Much of what has happened, of course, was predictable and indeed was predicted, but neocon Nuland couldn’t resist the temptation to pull off a “regime change” that she could call her own.
Her husband (and arch-neocon) Robert Kagan had co-founded the Project for the New American Century in 1998 around a demand for “regime change” in Iraq, a project that was accomplished in 2003 with President George W. Bush’s invasion.
As with Nuland in Ukraine, Kagan and his fellow neocons thought they could engineer an easy invasion of Iraq, oust Saddam Hussein and install some hand-picked client – in Iraq, Ahmed Chalabi was to be “the guy.” But they failed to take into account the harsh realities of Iraq, such as the fissures between Sunnis and Shiites, exposed by the US-led invasion and occupation.
In Ukraine, Nuland and her neocon and liberal-interventionist friends saw the chance to poke Putin in the eye by encouraging violent protests to overthrow Russia-friendly President Yanukovych and put in place a new regime hostile to Moscow."
You're talking about way back then. But that was yesterday, and yesterday's gone. We're talking about now. Try staying on current event topics, not what happened a decade or so ago. It's not applicable in this current situation anymore.
And never forget friends, Neo-Con Robert Kagan, is the brother of SCOTUS Kagan.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
This could be huge. If it turns out the Supreme Court was involved in the neo-con plot to get Russia to invade Ukraine -- and with this brotherly revelation, it certainly appears now that they were -- we will have a real Constitutional crisis on our hands. Total usurpage by a rogue neo-con justice of the Kremlin's deliberative role in invading its neighbors.
And never forget friends, Neo-Con Robert Kagan, is the brother of SCOTUS Kagan.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
This could be huge. If it turns out the Supreme Court was involved in the neo-con plot to get Russia to invade Ukraine -- and with this brotherly revelation, it certainly appears now that they were -- we will have a real Constitutional crisis on our hands. Total usurpage by a rogue neo-con justice of the Kremlin's deliberative role in invading its neighbors.
Like everything coming out of Russia, this is also fake news. Her late father was a different Robert Kagan. These morons can't even come up with decent conspiracy theories.
One academic's opinion doesn't "destroy" anything I said. But feel free to do an victory dance in your kitchen and high five your cat if it helps you get through the day.
One academic, huh? Anybody with a functioning brain cell could see this coming since 2014. I know, because I did. I was in Poland at the time of Maiden in Ukraine, and was reading and watching reports then of US involvement.
This whole thing is DC's fault.
But my point had nothing to do with whether the conflict was foreseeable or the damage to the Ukraine. I only disagreed with the notion that Americans who pay taxes didn't support the war. Nothing you have posted "destroys" that point.
This could be huge. If it turns out the Supreme Court was involved in the neo-con plot to get Russia to invade Ukraine -- and with this brotherly revelation, it certainly appears now that they were -- we will have a real Constitutional crisis on our hands. Total usurpage by a rogue neo-con justice of the Kremlin's deliberative role in invading its neighbors.
Like everything coming out of Russia, this is also fake news. Her late father was a different Robert Kagan. These morons can't even come up with decent conspiracy theories.
Average Russian earns $6k per year. Average American pays $6k per year in taxes. US is worlds largest economy. Russia, despite being the biggest country in the world, is ranked 11th. The gap in GDP between these two countries is MASSIVE. The $33 billion is a drop in the bucket for the US. Plus, money to protect innocent citizens from an invading army committing war crimes is the morally correct decision. All the NATO countries, rich East Asian countries, and Australia/NZ are providing Ukraine with support. It’s the right thing to do.
Like everything coming out of Russia, this is also fake news. Her late father was a different Robert Kagan. These morons can't even come up with decent conspiracy theories.
Focus on the one mistake and avoid all the truths
I read the transcript of the call. Why should anyone care about any of the details? Unlike you, I don't hate America or the jews, so why would any of this bother me?
Like everything coming out of Russia, this is also fake news. Her late father was a different Robert Kagan. These morons can't even come up with decent conspiracy theories.
Focus on the one mistake and avoid all the truths
You want the truth? Really want to know the truth? I wish I could help you with that, but I cant. In my experience all most all leaders of all countries are liars. The major difference between liars is, a good liar may sound very convincing even though you might be skeptical. A bad liar will only insult your intelligence with their nonsensical verbal diarrhea diatribes.
