Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ah, but you are more than willing to ignore the Biden Family Businesses that are clearly corrupt, and how Joe used his political power to amass wealth for his family. Or, how he continues to spin stories to rehabilitate the tarnished image of his drug dependent son Hunter.
agip, you are the extreme partisan, my friend.
proof? we've been asking for years now
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ah, but you are more than willing to ignore the Biden Family Businesses that are clearly corrupt, and how Joe used his political power to amass wealth for his family. Or, how he continues to spin stories to rehabilitate the tarnished image of his drug dependent son Hunter.
agip, you are the extreme partisan, my friend.
I have yet to see anything that shows Joe Biden to be corrupt. And I read a lot.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ah, but you are more than willing to ignore the Biden Family Businesses that are clearly corrupt, and how Joe used his political power to amass wealth for his family. Or, how he continues to spin stories to rehabilitate the tarnished image of his drug dependent son Hunter.
agip, you are the extreme partisan, my friend.
Hunter Biden is a grifter and has (had?) serious substance abuse issues. On the bright side, he's not running the country.
Joe/Jill Biden is alleged to be worth something just south of $10M which isn't particularly exceptional for an older upper middle class household. If he's using his political power to amass wealth, he doesn't seem to be very good at it.
agip wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ah, but you are more than willing to ignore the Biden Family Businesses that are clearly corrupt, and how Joe used his political power to amass wealth for his family. Or, how he continues to spin stories to rehabilitate the tarnished image of his drug dependent son Hunter.
agip, you are the extreme partisan, my friend.
I have yet to see anything that shows Joe Biden to be corrupt. And I read a lot.
Really? OK.
Well, ok then! wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ah, but you are more than willing to ignore the Biden Family Businesses that are clearly corrupt, and how Joe used his political power to amass wealth for his family. Or, how he continues to spin stories to rehabilitate the tarnished image of his drug dependent son Hunter.
agip, you are the extreme partisan, my friend.
Hunter Biden is a grifter and has (had?) serious substance abuse issues. On the bright side, he's not running the country.
Joe/Jill Biden is alleged to be worth something just south of $10M which isn't particularly exceptional for an older upper middle class household. If he's using his political power to amass wealth, he doesn't seem to be very good at it.
He isn’t very good at it. Clearly his brother Jim and son Hunter have botched several influence peddling schemes; like Burisma and the China banking deal. He’ll screw up this Administration if the Directorate allows it. Most likely headed that way with the extreme liberal tilt.
agip wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ah, but you are more than willing to ignore the Biden Family Businesses that are clearly corrupt, and how Joe used his political power to amass wealth for his family. Or, how he continues to spin stories to rehabilitate the tarnished image of his drug dependent son Hunter.
agip, you are the extreme partisan, my friend.
I have yet to see anything that shows Joe Biden to be corrupt. And I read a lot.
Thanks for once again sharing that you are a clueless, Biden Backer!
What are your thoughts on CNN admitted they falsify stories and feel that your boy Biden would not have won without their propaganda?
Not CNN wrote:
agip wrote:
I have yet to see anything that shows Joe Biden to be corrupt. And I read a lot.
Thanks for once again sharing that you are a clueless, Biden Backer!
What are your thoughts on CNN admitted they falsify stories and feel that your boy Biden would not have won without their propaganda?
CNN is not a great source on US politics. Their game is to inflame and generate passion. It's not to be a cool reporter of facts. I look at CNN but try not to pay much attention to its US politics reporting. Someone called CNN's approach to be 'politics as sports' and I think that is just right.
They don't intentionally falsify but they lean and they wink and they try to generate steam.
I have no idea of the impact of CNN on the electoral college. I doubt it's much.
agip wrote:
Not CNN wrote:
Thanks for once again sharing that you are a clueless, Biden Backer!
What are your thoughts on CNN admitted they falsify stories and feel that your boy Biden would not have won without their propaganda?
CNN is not a great source on US politics. Their game is to inflame and generate passion. It's not to be a cool reporter of facts. I look at CNN but try not to pay much attention to its US politics reporting. Someone called CNN's approach to be 'politics as sports' and I think that is just right.
They don't intentionally falsify but they lean and they wink and they try to generate steam.
I have no idea of the impact of CNN on the electoral college. I doubt it's much.
Oh come on. They spent the last 4 years relentlessly trashing Trump or his kids. Of course it had a huge effect.
Hammering Hank wrote:
agip wrote:
CNN is not a great source on US politics. Their game is to inflame and generate passion. It's not to be a cool reporter of facts. I look at CNN but try not to pay much attention to its US politics reporting. Someone called CNN's approach to be 'politics as sports' and I think that is just right.
They don't intentionally falsify but they lean and they wink and they try to generate steam.
I have no idea of the impact of CNN on the electoral college. I doubt it's much.
Oh come on. They spent the last 4 years relentlessly trashing Trump or his kids. Of course it had a huge effect.
the problem people like you have is that the Trump family is so awful and the Trump presidency was so awful that merely reporting the news is an endless flood of awfulness. Because they are awful people, criminals, and the Trump admin was the most crooked in recent history.
So any sort of mainstream reporting is going to sound like endless criticism. Because the facts were so bad.
Sorry, but that's how it is.
agip wrote:
Hammering Hank wrote:
Oh come on. They spent the last 4 years relentlessly trashing Trump or his kids. Of course it had a huge effect.
the problem people like you have is that the Trump family is so awful and the Trump presidency was so awful that merely reporting the news is an endless flood of awfulness. Because they are awful people, criminals, and the Trump admin was the most crooked in recent history.
So any sort of mainstream reporting is going to sound like endless criticism. Because the facts were so bad.
Sorry, but that's how it is.
What is odd that you see no conflict of thought on Burisma, Biden Family China “business,” Hunter’s behavior, and the reflection of those facts on Joe and Jill.
Really, you just choose to look the other way because of your extreme liberal views.
agip wrote:
Hammering Hank wrote:
Oh come on. They spent the last 4 years relentlessly trashing Trump or his kids. Of course it had a huge effect.
the problem people like you have is that the Trump family is so awful and the Trump presidency was so awful that merely reporting the news is an endless flood of awfulness. Because they are awful people, criminals, and the Trump admin was the most crooked in recent history.
So any sort of mainstream reporting is going to sound like endless criticism. Because the facts were so bad.
Sorry, but that's how it is.
Trump family is so awful? Last I saw it is only the Biden clan being investigated. Also, MSNC and CNN kept a running tally on the screen of Covid deaths since last April. Those ceased to be shown once Biden ascended to the Oval Office.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
agip wrote:
the problem people like you have is that the Trump family is so awful and the Trump presidency was so awful that merely reporting the news is an endless flood of awfulness. Because they are awful people, criminals, and the Trump admin was the most crooked in recent history.
So any sort of mainstream reporting is going to sound like endless criticism. Because the facts were so bad.
Sorry, but that's how it is.
What is odd that you see no conflict of thought on Burisma, Biden Family China “business,” Hunter’s behavior, and the reflection of those facts on Joe and Jill.
Really, you just choose to look the other way because of your extreme liberal views.
I’m pretty sure morally you could never behave that way, or raise such a son.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
agip wrote:
the problem people like you have is that the Trump family is so awful and the Trump presidency was so awful that merely reporting the news is an endless flood of awfulness. Because they are awful people, criminals, and the Trump admin was the most crooked in recent history.
So any sort of mainstream reporting is going to sound like endless criticism. Because the facts were so bad.
Sorry, but that's how it is.
What is odd that you see no conflict of thought on Burisma, Biden Family China “business,” Hunter’s behavior, and the reflection of those facts on Joe and Jill.
Really, you just choose to look the other way because of your extreme liberal views.
Burisma shows that Joe is *more* honest and tough. He literally asked Ukraine to sic a more dedicated prosecutor against the company Hunter was associated with. The idea that Burisma shows any kind of Joe corruption is so backwards it's absurd. It's the opposite.
I don't care much about Hunter's behavior. He is not in government.
"Reflection" on Joe and Jill? That they have a troubled son? Ok, well I suppose fine. They have a troubled son. Adjust your vote and support accordingly.
Yet that is the best this country can do. Pretty sad when taken in that context. That is what we deserve. Breakdown in family, morals, a loss of community. Hard to argue that this country has not lost it’s way.
We all can hope for a better outcome.
agip wrote:
Some virus numbers.
The bad news is that cases in the US are moving up quite sharply, ending a period where the world was getting worse but the US was improving.
US: Cases up 30% from a mid-March low.
But
Deaths continue to fall. Which is what we'd hope from a nation that has vaccinated so many of the vulnerable. Goal is to make COVID no worse than the flu and that seems to be happening.
In other highly vaxxed nations like the UK and ISR the results are great:
ISR: Cases down 97%
ISR: Deaths down 89%
UK: Cases down 95%
UK: Deaths dow 97%
Obviously the US breaks that pattern by having case growth. Probably because of the old US thing...we are more of a continential empire than a nation. Large groups of people will not get vacinated and that will make our national numbers bad. So the question is how much damage will the Trumpists do to the country by dying off.
FL is showing warning signals: Cases up 41%. but deaths are still falling. fingers crossed that vaccinations will save their butts.
I've been critical of the adminstration not following the UK model of prioritizing first shots and delaying the second shot. That's apparently the way to go. Our previous knowledge of viruses and vaccinations backs this up as well as current studies on the COVID vaccines. Not sure why we didn't follow the science on this one.
Also, after only two weeks from their 7-day low in cases in February, Michigan saw a 50% increase in cases in only 2 weeks. That was 5+ weeks ago. Cases are now up nearly 800% and still going up (deaths +79%, hospitalizations +101% in last 2 weeks). We have the policy of evenly distributing vaccines instead of prioritizing critical states, counties, areas, etc. We need to change this given that the majority of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. Of course, taking local measures in Michigan to slow the spread would have helped immensely.
Sure. Trump followers are to blame for prolonging the pandemic by not getting vaccinated (other groups as well), but our policies have not helped either.
We've botched this from the beginning and continue to botch it.
agip wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
What is odd that you see no conflict of thought on Burisma, Biden Family China “business,” Hunter’s behavior, and the reflection of those facts on Joe and Jill.
Really, you just choose to look the other way because of your extreme liberal views.
Burisma shows that Joe is *more* honest and tough. He literally asked Ukraine to sic a more dedicated prosecutor against the company Hunter was associated with. The idea that Burisma shows any kind of Joe corruption is so backwards it's absurd. It's the opposite.
I don't care much about Hunter's behavior. He is not in government.
"Reflection" on Joe and Jill? That they have a troubled son? Ok, well I suppose fine. They have a troubled son. Adjust your vote and support accordingly.
as for China, factchecks suggest Hunter traded on his famous name but did nothing illegal. And Joe is just not involved. China always tries to hand money to children of foreign politicians. As of course they did to Trump, by handing trademarks to Ivanka.
this sort of thing, on a right-wing documentary about the
China issues sums it up well:
"The documentary leaves the impression that former Vice President Joe Biden is willing to sell out his country’s national security for personal gain. But independent experts agree that this assertion is baseless. The documentary never says that either Biden broke the law, but its pairing of the Bidens with Chinese figures charged with espionage and other crimes, punctuated by spooky music, might give a viewer that impression. However, there is no evidence that Hunter Biden came close to breaking the law, much less any evidence that his father has done so. "
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/oct/19/fact-checking-claims-about-hunter-biden-joe-biden-/Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
agip wrote:
Some virus numbers.
The bad news is that cases in the US are moving up quite sharply, ending a period where the world was getting worse but the US was improving.
US: Cases up 30% from a mid-March low.
But
Deaths continue to fall. Which is what we'd hope from a nation that has vaccinated so many of the vulnerable. Goal is to make COVID no worse than the flu and that seems to be happening.
In other highly vaxxed nations like the UK and ISR the results are great:
ISR: Cases down 97%
ISR: Deaths down 89%
UK: Cases down 95%
UK: Deaths dow 97%
Obviously the US breaks that pattern by having case growth. Probably because of the old US thing...we are more of a continential empire than a nation. Large groups of people will not get vacinated and that will make our national numbers bad. So the question is how much damage will the Trumpists do to the country by dying off.
FL is showing warning signals: Cases up 41%. but deaths are still falling. fingers crossed that vaccinations will save their butts.
I've been critical of the adminstration not following the UK model of prioritizing first shots and delaying the second shot. That's apparently the way to go. Our previous knowledge of viruses and vaccinations backs this up as well as current studies on the COVID vaccines. Not sure why we didn't follow the science on this one.
Also, after only two weeks from their 7-day low in cases in February, Michigan saw a 50% increase in cases in only 2 weeks. That was 5+ weeks ago. Cases are now up nearly 800% and still going up (deaths +79%, hospitalizations +101% in last 2 weeks). We have the policy of evenly distributing vaccines instead of prioritizing critical states, counties, areas, etc. We need to change this given that the majority of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. Of course, taking local measures in Michigan to slow the spread would have helped immensely.
Sure. Trump followers are to blame for prolonging the pandemic by not getting vaccinated (other groups as well), but our policies have not helped either.
We've botched this from the beginning and continue to botch it.
is it fair to say that we botching it when we're vaccinating 8+% of the adult population per week and at the very top of the list of nations in terms of vaccinations?
agip wrote:
Hammering Hank wrote:
Oh come on. They spent the last 4 years relentlessly trashing Trump or his kids. Of course it had a huge effect.
the problem people like you have is that the Trump family is so awful and the Trump presidency was so awful that merely reporting the news is an endless flood of awfulness. Because they are awful people, criminals, and the Trump admin was the most crooked in recent history.
So any sort of mainstream reporting is going to sound like endless criticism. Because the facts were so bad.
Sorry, but that's how it is.
Well, I didn't like Trump as a public speaker but he was more than available to the media and his polices and follow through with what he wanted to do was much better than past Presidents and a gizzilion times better than the current President.
The Foreign Press on Hunter Biden
Hunter repeatedly dodged police action against him, despite constantly dealing with drug dealers and prostitutes and having multiple run-ins with the law.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9445105/What-Hunter-Biden-left-tell-memoir-revealed.html
Hammering Hank wrote:
. . . Trump family is so awful? Last I saw it is only the Biden clan being investigated. . . .
Have you ever wondered if your forum trolling is just a little too subtle and you really need to crank up the stupid to truly own the libs?