Major bust coming.

casual obsever wrote:

bannned i got wrote:

its good for the sport because it shows that cheaters are getting caught, not just the bottom of the barrel but TOP STARS

^This.

Kipsang, Kiptum, Kiprop, Manangoi.

Jeptoo, Sumgong, Kirwa, Jebet.

Coleman, Naser.

Let's hope the AIU doesn't screw up again.

Also good: the increasing number of dodged tests in Kenya implies that the testers start coming unannounced now and don't accept tea money anymore.

i bett all the doping deniers hate that

casual obsever wrote:

bannned i got wrote:

its good for the sport because it shows that cheaters are getting caught, not just the bottom of the barrel but TOP STARS

^This.

Kipsang, Kiptum, Kiprop, Manangoi.

Jeptoo, Sumgong, Kirwa, Jebet.

Coleman, Naser.

Let's hope the AIU doesn't screw up again.

Also good: the increasing number of dodged tests in Kenya implies that the testers start coming unannounced now and don't accept tea money anymore.

It's all good catching all these cheaters but funny how they are not really catching Europeans or Americans.

Not excusing the Kenyans at all, a cheater banned is always a step forward, but I know that at least in some European countries there's plenty of doping and you hardly see anyone getting caught.

ftjhretj wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

^This.

Kipsang, Kiptum, Kiprop, Manangoi.

Jeptoo, Sumgong, Kirwa, Jebet.

Coleman, Naser.

Let's hope the AIU doesn't screw up again.

Also good: the increasing number of dodged tests in Kenya implies that the testers start coming unannounced now and don't accept tea money anymore.

It's all good catching all these cheaters but funny how they are not really catching Europeans or Americans.

Not excusing the Kenyans at all, a cheater banned is always a step forward, but I know that at least in some European countries there's plenty of doping and you hardly see anyone getting caught.

well the americans have the backing of Nike or something and get off all the time, i mean they busted gatlin and he is still here mocking everyone...gay was busted but since he "helped out" and how he did was never disclosed and he got a slap on the wrist. others claim whereabouts are too hard to get to, or tainted beef etc...in the UK all you have to do is claim your doorbell didnt work.

but we all no US sprinters are cheating and lying, thats not the issue...the issue is this lie that the kenyans are HEADS and shoulders better than EVERYONE since 1993 and it has nothing to do with doping... cause they are too innocent to dope, they are too uneducated to dope, doping doesnt work on them, doping doesnt work on top tier, doping doesnt work on top coach top tier...etc

now as 90% of the smart people can see its all a farce just like coleman, gatlin, Mo etc...

I understand your points.

I am more familiar with European athletics (not to be confused with European Athletics, the organisation), I have witnessed doping talks among 63-66 minute half marathoners, there have been a couple of biggish busts like Fsiha, but... It just feels like we are not even going below the surface.

A bit like in cycling before the Armstrong case.

since the 1990s and the lying doping apologists killed the euro talent. kids with talent to run fast went on to soccer cause they couldnt keep up with the "clean" kenyans. so the incentive to cheat is less cause they dont see a future in the sport. once Mo and the NOP ruppy poops started the scientific micro dosing things started to change, and now guys that would only be doing 13:20-30s are now running sub 13.....

yes there are americans and euros doping, but when your running 13:20s your not high on the list to test...you start running 1300 or faster an boom now your on the fancy bear list of "likely doping"

its not hard to go to the iaaf profile on runners and see the trend. regardless of what rek and other liars want to claim EPO will give you 30 seconds faster than what your body naturally would have maxed out at for a 5k. sorry to burst all the moran people on here but the 5k WR is prob right around 12:58ish for clean human beings....but with them dope its 12:37...still means KB is the fastest of all time, but if you take dope out of the pic then you will see so many more people around the globe are close to each other as one would expect....SINCE we are all 99.9999% the same.

or you can go super left doping apologist and claim kenyans are a superior race at the same time claiming race doesnt exist lolz.

look at math for instance, there has been geniuses from all "races" but no one race is HEADS and shoulders smarter than all the others...but in running some how there is one race that is SOOOO SUPERIOR...nope just doing more doping thats all

ftjhretj wrote:

It's all good catching all these cheaters but funny how they are not really catching Europeans or Americans.

Well the Europeans have quiet doorbells, and forgotten paperwork.

Here we have beef, kissing, sex, supplements, the tester going to the wrong house, and the tester moving the start time to 8:01 instead of between 7 and 8 am, and drug cheat coaches who only dope their sons and assistants. So formally we appear mostly clean.

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Thanks for the bump, Bump. Now I can add that we have a NADO that gives athletes warning calls ahead of formally unannounced tests (Coleman case), just like AKAD used to do (Kiprop, anyone?), and that our NADO in addition to giving warning calls does not label missed tests as missed tests if they can find the athletes hours later (Simpson case). Of course both of that is against the rules, but so what? So formally it's easy for us to appear mostly clean.

casual obsever wrote:

Here we have beef, kissing, sex, supplements, the tester going to the wrong house, and the tester moving the start time to 8:01 instead of between 7 and 8 am, and drug cheat coaches who only dope their sons and assistants. So formally we appear mostly clean.

who was this?