USA Basketball Player Stephen Curry (Golden State, California) doesn't think that USA Astronauts ever landed on Earth's Moon

Don't forget that Floyd Landis (USA) originally claimed it was all "Positively False" and only gave up the cover-up many years later (when suing USA Postal Service to try to get 1/3 of $100m by whistleblowing).

That's how the system works.

The 60s were a diff'rent time.... wrote:

I don't see why it matters today (2018 Dec) if USA astronauts landed on earth's moon.

The whole point was to win the Cold War, at any cost. Who cares if lies were told?

Like former Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) said after his 11th hour made-up lie about Mitt Romney not paying USA taxes for 10 years: "It worked, didn't it?"

That's the basis on which we have to judge how NASA/CIA acted.

Floyd: Well, no one wants to feel like they’ve been duped. They respond aggressively because they bought into it. It’s not their fault. To some extent it was reality right? It inspired them or gave them hope and that’s worth something.

Did Chipotle do a big lay-off recently?

QOTD reader (LRC) wrote:

Everyone in TdF circa Lance Armstrong (USA) years knew of the PED doping, but the omerta stopped them (180 riders + 1000 support crew) from speaking. Few indications from inside, only outside forces devolved.

But with "man on moon" hoax they are cleverly compartementalized, fewer principals involved, no outside kick'ins.

And those brave who have spoken out are ignored.

Floyd: You’d be amazed how many people [can stay quiet] and this is something that unless I’d lived through it I don’t think I would even believe it. ... [it makes me] more likely to believe some things that seemed hard to imagine that you could pull it off because there were literally hundreds of people, not only that knew about it or were involved in it in cycling. They would come and go and then in all shapes and forms and got fired. They would leave on bad terms, good terms, [and] no one said a word to anyone outside of that little bubble. Everyone in that little bubble knew it and they had their own story for that and they had a separate story for everyone else and if I didn’t see it firsthand, I would not believe that you could pull it off but it’s just the way people are.

Do you guys realize that you just dreamt up an imaginary scenario in your head and are using that as your proof?

There is actual tangible evidence of Apollo landings. Moon rocks, dust samples, LRO photos taken in 2009 - 2011. Foreign 3rd party photos from SELENE, eyewitnesses, photos and videos and tracking of the actual landings, all 6 of them, and we have the 6 command modules that safely brought their crew of 3 back to Earth. We also have part of Surveyor probe launched before Apollo and later retrieved and brought back from the moon by crew of Apollo 12.

Conspiracy trolls have their imaginary hoax scenarios and internet blogs from fellow conspiracy theorists.

Proof of Apollo missions = Tons and tons

Proof of a hoax = Nothing.

There is actual tangible evidence of Apollo landings. Moon rocks, dust samples, LRO photos taken in 2009 - 2011. Foreign 3rd party photos from SELENE, eyewitnesses, photos and videos and tracking of the actual landings, all 6 of them, and we have the 6 command modules that safely brought their crew of 3 back to Earth. We also have part of Surveyor probe launched before Apollo and later retrieved and brought back from the moon by crew of Apollo 12.

Moon rocks = Soviet unmanned mission

Dust samples = Soviet unmanned mission

LRO photos = Apollo unmanned landing sites

SELENE photos = Apollo unmanned landing sites

eyewitnesses = Buzz + Neil

tracking of landings = no proof landings were manned

command modules = no proof "moon men" ever used them

surveyor probe = "retrieved" part was never on moon (microbes from "clean room"???)

Evidence, you say??

This "common bacteria" doesn't exist on Earth's Moon!

Yet somehow, it appeared on a surveyor probe that had been on "Earth's Moon" for over 2.5 years... how can POSSIBLY even a microbe survive Moon's Environment that long?? Yet smart boffins all nodded sagely this was "true" for USA press media....

After there Internet legends failed,

Next try at NASA coverstory: The "clean room" wasn't so "clean" after all!

Gee, I wonder what else they are faking....

The anti-hoax believers claim these are "astronaut footpaths" from LRO?

These could easily be from a *robotic* source, NOT HUMAN!!

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/584640main_apollo17-right-670.jpg

Run Around wrote:

Legit question had a post arguing that the earth is flat. total troll. Start a thread with an NBA player mentioned to get more responses. There are over 800,000 commercial pilots and not one of them believes this flat earth crap. One reason would be the Flat Earthers do not have a map system that shows actual miles from point to point on the earth that would be accurate. Do you remember in grade school that they had to tell you that Green Land was not actually that large because of the affect of making the earth appear on a flat map.

Nope! I never started this thread and name calling is not an argument. Your side has had over 2,500 years to produce a foolproof map which cannot explain how flight paths work on a globe. FE research has had perhaps 3 years in comparison to produce a map. Pilots never fly inverted when landing planes in Antarctica- how is this remotely possible on a ball?

Evidential value = ZERO wrote:

The anti-hoax believers claim these are "astronaut footpaths" from LRO?

These could easily be from a *robotic* source, NOT HUMAN!!

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/584640main_apollo17-right-670.jpg

Who made those robots? Where is your proof they were robots?

- Conspiracy has no proof.

- The truth has facts and tangible evidence.

Steph is an idiot. Most entertainers are. Don't listen to them.

Science bro wrote:

Evidential value = ZERO wrote:

The anti-hoax believers claim these are "astronaut footpaths" from LRO?

These could easily be from a *robotic* source, NOT HUMAN!!

Who made those robots? Where is your proof they were robots?

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Soviets had robots (Luna), remote-controlled from Earth. Makes it literally 100% plausible USA did too.

And no need to "proof" the fakery, enough to cast sufficient doubt on official NASA narrative (propaganda).

But as anti-hoax believers feel their cause is lost, time to invent new goalposts for fanboys to cheer?

Meanwhile, e.g. humans thru van Allen belt is less than < 0.01% likely.

Um. Wow. Have you ever taken a physics class? Do you understand how gravity works?

To see evidence that we live a a globe, take a non-stop flight from Tokyo to NY that departs just before dusk and observe the sun during the flight. I've done actually done this flight. It's a 12 hour flight flying a "great circle" route on a globe, traveling back across time zones. Really, I encourage you to take this flight and watch what the sun does.

no zoom lens wrote:

Science bro wrote:

Who made those robots? Where is your proof they were robots?

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Soviets had robots (Luna), remote-controlled from Earth. Makes it literally 100% plausible USA did too.

And no need to "proof" the fakery, enough to cast sufficient doubt on official NASA narrative (propaganda).

But as anti-hoax believers feel their cause is lost, time to invent new goalposts for fanboys to cheer?

Meanwhile, e.g. humans thru van Allen belt is less than < 0.01% likely.

Yes, this canard was the "best evidence" of Forbes (capitalist) magazine about the so-called "proof".

1.) Lunar footprints.

And finally, the dark paths that look like dried-up canals? Those are "astronaut footprints".

The dark grey markings on the surface are "astronaut footprints", which have stood the test of time on the Moon, as the processes that erase them on Earth are absent on the Moon.

Or they could be some other robotic vehicle (non-LRV) leaving tracks.

Gee, I wonder why NASA doesn't get higher-resoultion to prove this one way or another?

Forbes has yet another "PhD scientist" who doesn't even understand what the word "evidence" means!

Dr. Ethan *admits* Soviets sent UNMANNED lunar probes for laser retroflectors, but STILL claims "Scientific equipment we've installed on the Moon" counts (#3)? And "samples" (#4) that Luna (Soviet UNMANNED mission) purloined too? That's literally HALF his "evidence" that is out the window before the moonrise! Even dumber is his #2 "photos", for ...... the unmanned Soviets have photos TOO! Big whoop, only USA fanboy would catalogue it.

As for his #1, he surmises footprints in self-admitted canal-like doodles, maybe Rohrschach can aid us.

Isn't the contradiction OVERWHELMINGLY obvious?? Yet the publishers still promote this on the Internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nlFpal3Tpg

old and naive wrote:

Timothy Foyle wrote:

What can you provide evidence for?

I just asked you a question. I can't provide any evidence for the existence of Mt Everest right now apart from photos and internet links. Can you?

Should we just agree that space flight never occurred and Mt Everest does not exist?

So, you admit that you can provide ZERO evidence that humans ever stepped foot on the moon. Forgive me for being not overly impressed with that compelling argument. (SMH)

no zoom lens wrote:

Science bro wrote:

Who made those robots? Where is your proof they were robots?

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Soviets had robots (Luna), remote-controlled from Earth. Makes it literally 100% plausible USA did too.

And no need to "proof" the fakery, enough to cast sufficient doubt on official NASA narrative (propaganda).

But as anti-hoax believers feel their cause is lost, time to invent new goalposts for fanboys to cheer?

Meanwhile, e.g. humans thru van Allen belt is less than < 0.01% likely.

Funny that James Van Allen himself never said Apollo was fake. That's because they learned they could limit exposure with trajectory, timing, and passing thru it in a short period of time.

As for your robot theory, prove to me that the Grumman Corporation made the LM as a robotic lander and also made other roborts to go out and a scurry around to make fake astronauts tracks on the moon.

You conspiracy trolls just keep guessing and making stuff up. Truth has facts, which for Apollo there are tons of facts.

Funny that James Van Allen himself never said Apollo was fake.

Just because the belts bear his name, doesn't mean his opinion counts more.

So you are irrelevant in this.

But nice try wrote:

Funny that James Van Allen himself never said Apollo was fake.

Just because the belts bear his name, doesn't mean his opinion counts more.

So you are irrelevant in this.

Ha! Ok, the expert scientist's opinion that made the discovery doesn't count, but your opinion and that of conspiracy bloggers does.

Ha! Ha! Ha! That's really the best post in this whole thread! That's great thanks!