Katir is the most obvious doper of all time

Katir's manager bringing the LetsRun big gun doping apologists out of retirement to back his boy.

Here is Katir on his 7:56.62 in Barcelona 3 years ago. He improved another 12 seconds in the next 2 years to 7:44 Now he runs 7:27 and not even out of breath. But it was the notorious short Gateshead track I guess....

Pretty sure McSweyn knows. Did you see his body language at the end? Didn't congratulate Katir as far as I saw. He knows his chance of a medal is gone now unless Katir gets pinged.

drtoneill wrote:

Pretty sure McSweyn knows. Did you see his body language at the end? Didn't congratulate Katir as far as I saw. He knows his chance of a medal is gone now unless Katir gets pinged.

McSweyn is running 1500 in the Olympics. Katir 5000. No medal lost to Katir.

Charlie Chaplin wrote:

Best defend him under anonymous usernames.

You provide a perfect example of (multi) anonymous name attacking virulently people.

three stripes wrote:

Literally no one knew this dudes name before indoors and he just ran 3:28. Lol.

three stripes

I really want to know who is behind this anonymous name!

- He is someone accustomed with LRC

- He obviously has a conflict of interest with Katir.

drtoneill wrote:

Pretty sure McSweyn knows. Did you see his body language at the end? Didn't congratulate Katir as far as I saw. He knows his chance of a medal is gone now unless Katir gets pinged.

It was the same after Monaco. Guy just broke 3:30 and a national record, should have been elated, but the realisation that from next year, you likely have to beat Tim or Jakob just to get a medal.

Here you can see Katir's development in 1500m during the past years.

1500m:

2016 3:55.74

2017 3:52.79

2018 3:40.84

2019 3:37.20

2020 3:36.59

2021 3:28.76

1500m fans can only hope he shares the Aouita Moroccan mentality in every way. He may want the 1500 glory but avoids putting it on the line in major champs and picks the easier 5000.

Passant wrote:

three stripes wrote:

Literally no one knew this dudes name before indoors and he just ran 3:28. Lol.

three stripes

I really want to know who is behind this anonymous name!

- He is someone accustomed with LRC

- He obviously has a conflict of interest with Katir.

Salam Aleykum, Passant, you do not need to worry about anonymous posts because ultimately the great one above, Allah, is the final judge and Katir will be vindicated if and when he wins an Olympic medal which is quite likely going by his current form.

It is sad that people jump to conclusions about the Spanish runner, from Mula, who has never evaded controls in any shape or form and is available 24/7 on Instagram and Twitter (and the Spanish anti-doping body, presumably, has his coordinates permanently logged and can follow him) and his training location in the Sierra Nevada is very easy to get to should any tester want to perform tests on him.

All the evidence we have on him if you want to call it “evidence” (because after all this is not a criminal trial and should not be treated as such), is that he is squeaky clean as a whistle at this time.

Like all the great majority of dopers who are never caught.

Funny interview with Katir here... some funny stuff

Best Workout he's done - 2 x 1000m (6:00 rest) in 2:18, 2:18 in Pegasus 36 (they were cracking up about this)... interviewer said he's calling NIKE to tell him that's probably the fastest anyone has ever run in Pegs

Most Mileage in a Week - 185km...

Most Mileage at One Time - 35km.. says he got lost in a forest

Guy is very, very fast. Just naturally fast, quick, efficient. Love his breakthrough and hope he keeps it going into Tokyo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf7KXqDhHr4

Ghost1 wrote:

All the evidence we have on him if you want to call it “evidence” (because after all this is not a criminal trial and should not be treated as such), is that he is squeaky clean as a whistle at this time.

Not exactly. A rapid improvement from fringe of national team to medal cert that we haven't seen since his countryman Ramzi.

This took place during the unique circumstances of the pandemic in which testers were 7nable to get to athletes, and he himself says that he was 'clostered' and 'isolated' during this time.

His manager appears to be controversial even in Spain, has coached at least 2 suspended foreign born Spanish athletes, as well as Cacho, and has stated that dopers caught even 4 times should be given another chance.

But I agree, I have faith that WADA has the ability to catch at least flagrant dopers, and if he is doping, he will either get busted or his performances will deteriorate.

BTW, mods should note that 'Passant' has threatened at least several times now to doxx other posters.

I do not believe he is doping, but if I play your game and we assume he is are you going to say everyone else behind him is not or is he just the most special human on the planet? Cannot be both.

Charlie Chaplin wrote:

1500m fans can only hope he shares the Aouita Moroccan mentality in every way. He may want the 1500 glory but avoids putting it on the line in major champs and picks the easier 5000.

You were working hard to paint a black image about North African (generally African) countries.

Even your worse example of Rashid Ramzi is only working at 50%

He was caught and punished for IAAF doping rule and everything stop here.

Same thing for Asbel Kiprop.

Can you answer this question and in a scientific way?

Who is the best? Sebastian Coe or Rashid Ramzi?

Who is the best? Sebastian Coe or Asbel Kiprop?

Darunner37 wrote:

2) Any defenses of him not doping? He's sponsored by Asics who doesn't have a credible superspike. So his performances can't be attributed to that nor can long periods of training without racing (because he raced last year).

Please share your thoughts. Clearly looks like a doper in plain sight, but I hope I'm wrong.

The effing Asics superspikes are going under the radar and seem to be amazing. Eilish Mccolgan has also run wicked fast in them.

I believe he’s clean.

Recently, Katir appears to have been living a fairly monkish existence at the national spanish centre. He probably wasn’t doing that a couple of years ago. Several months worth of high quality rating and no distractions could lead to big performance gains.

Am sure he’s beeping tested frequently.

There’s no evidence either way.

Phil Ken Sebben wrote:

Do you know a lot of elite coaches that advocate anything other than upright rigid posture/torso? Because I'd have to imagine a sloppy wobbly synergistic torso movement would impact negatively on the push-off/drive phase of an athlete's stride and have virtually zero possibility of being a net positive. Drugs are Occam's Razor regarding Katir.

Oh damn son, you really have no idea about running do you? There is no such thing as rigid posture and if you fight torso movement to stay still, you're wasting energy. Torso is twisting and compensating with each stride you make, which massively impacts your breathing. If you have ever asked yourself how to breath better during races or hard workouts, then you're in trouble, because breathing self-regulates when your upper body is doing the right things. McSweyn is stiff and that's why he is the most elite pacemaker out there. Take a good look at world class sprinters and you'll realise they all have some sort of pumping motion, with arching your back, twisting the torso and having your shoulders go up and down.

As for PEDs: proof or STFU.

Passant wrote:

Charlie Chaplin wrote:

1500m fans can only hope he shares the Aouita Moroccan mentality in every way. He may want the 1500 glory but avoids putting it on the line in major champs and picks the easier 5000.

You were working hard to paint a black image about North African (generally African) countries.

Even your worse example of Rashid Ramzi is only working at 50%

He was caught and punished for IAAF doping rule and everything stop here.

Same thing for Asbel Kiprop.

Can you answer this question and in a scientific way?

Who is the best? Sebastian Coe or Rashid Ramzi?

Who is the best? Sebastian Coe or Asbel Kiprop?

You are absolutely disgusting. No, YOU are absolutely confirming the Moroccan stereotype with your outrageous and insane doping apologist comments here.