p.s. Remember that time a bunch of Russian soldiers were ordered to dig trenches in a radioactive forest and turned themselves into nuclear weapons? That's how much Putin cares about his soldiers.
Really?
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carmine9 wrote:
The pills on these people to accuse Russia of having forgotten the lessons of WWII?
Nobody lost more people than the Russians.
Israel's problem is it is a violent, racist apartheid state that continually steals land and homes
Russia lost more people in WWII in large part because they treat people who aren't in the elite as commodities like wheat. They deploy and expend them as convenient and protect the guys at the top. Given how Russia is fighting this war, nothing much has changed except even more corruption in the supply chain.
Russia is the ultimate modern day Nazi state.
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carmine9 wrote:
Are you not the guy wrote:
Say one negative thing about Putin. Anything? You can’t can you?
Are you two years old?
I might as well be.
I am simply proving that your one sided view is dictated on constraints you are being placed under.
You are not able to converse objectively. So what value should I place on someone like you?
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Lollys Master wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Europe is dying. It deserves it.
The worst case scenario Europe can experience is that it will become just like the US. A military and gun crazed country with poor public health service and low quality education, overrun by refugees. In order for this not to happen, EU needs to kick out ALL American military from its continent and stop taking orders from the US in geopolitical questions. Buy cheapest gas possible from Russia and do business with it - leads to prosperity of both.
Europe isn't a country. The rest of your post is equally nonsensical.
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carmine9 wrote:
Are you not the guy wrote:
It worked out great. As an example most recently the president wanted to extend the mask mandate for travel indefinitely. A lowly (compared to the power of the presidency) judge overturned that and the president didn’t get his way.
It happens all the time here in the US. It can never happen in Russia m. You are stuck with Putin and there is nothing you can say about that unless you want to be imprisoned or killed. I pity you.
No censorship in MSM or Social Media when it comes to Covid, mandates, the Jab, gain of function, the Russia Ukraine war?
Cops have not been fired over refusing jab? Fireman too? People have not been excluded from stores, restaurants, sporting events, colleges for refusing the jab?
People not taking the jab have not been vilified and blamed?
People taking part in the 16 protest have not been called terrorists, insurrectionists, put on trial, even shot to death?
I don't know what country you live in
You are conflating things. We have the right to criticize. We don't have a right, other than the ballot box, to have our side of the argument prevail. That's democracy.
And whether MSM carries our water or not is irrelevant to whether we have the right to speak. As for 'censorship', Twitter and Facebook and the like are private companies with terms of service that they are entitled to enforce. If you don't like it, band together and start your own parallel service. Even the former President is trying to do that (although hiring the stupid Devin Nunes to run it shows why Trump has had multiple business failures).
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Ukraine also lost a much larger percentage of it's population in WW2 than Russia. It lost nearly as many civilians, despite being about a 3rd of the size as the Russian republic.
Russia likes to take credit for people who were Soviet, but not Russian.
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You're right. It's nuts how little Putin cares about his people. I'm glad we agree that he's an authoritarian d-bag that deserves a terminal case of lead poisoning.
You need to learn how to recognize facts and accept that you don't know much about history, or politics, or science, or math.
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carmine9 wrote:
p.s. Remember that time a bunch of Russian soldiers were ordered to dig trenches in a radioactive forest and turned themselves into nuclear weapons? That's how much Putin cares about his soldiers.
Really?
Really. Putin's an a-hole.
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Now Russia is claiming Israel is supporting the neo-Nazis regime in Ukraine. I mean come on, these Russians are really idiots.40
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Lollys Master wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Europe is dying. It deserves it.
The worst case scenario Europe can experience is that it will become just like the US. A military and gun crazed country with poor public health service and low quality education, overrun by refugees. In order for this not to happen, EU needs to kick out ALL American military from its continent and stop taking orders from the US in geopolitical questions. Buy cheapest gas possible from Russia and do business with it - leads to prosperity of both.
- "low quality education" - spoken like a poorly educated European. Let's see:
- 2022 QS World University Rankings (published by a UK company) has 17 American universities in the top 50, 8 from the UK, and 4 from mainland Europe (2 of which are ranked 44th and 49th).
- 2021-2022 Times Higher Education World University Rankings (another UK publication) has 12 American universities in the top 20, 4 from the UK, and 1 from mainland Europe.
- 2021 Academic Ranking of World Universities (from Shanghai Jiao Tong University) has 28 American universities in the top 50, 7 from the UK, and 8 from mainland Europe.
- So, the real questions are why are European universities so terrible? And, are the terrible European universities to blame for the complete lack of innovation in Europe over the last 400 years? I mean seriously. Has Switzerland invented anything since the Swiss Army Knife, expect ways for criminals to store their illicit gains?
- I spent a fair bit of time at the University of Geneva. What a mediocre nothingburger in the middle of one of the most lackluster cities in all of Europe. Boring architecture surrounding a filthy lake. Eww. No thanks. I would much rather spend my time in Prague, or Istanbul, or Budapest, or Kyiv - places that actually have more character than a wet piece of cardboard.
- " overrun by refugees" - Ahh, there's the racist BS you're known for. Take your wanna-be moral superiority and stick it where the sun don't shine. You're such a pathetic clown and you don't even realize it. Were mommy and daddy back in Donetsk cheering on the Russian terrorists when they shot down a civilian airliner because a bunch of the passengers were from Malaysia and therefore don't belong in Europe?
- " Buy cheapest gas possible from Russia" - Germany tried that. It was a failure because Russia is a corrupt sh*thole run by a murderous pseudo-tsar. Germany has realized the error in their ways: "trust Russia at your own peril." Too bad the only way Switzerland is going to import Russian gas is if the important European countries allow it to.
30 - "low quality education" - spoken like a poorly educated European. Let's see:
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carmine9 wrote:
You guys don't understand the most basic stuff about most everthing.
One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised,' adds Mr Mulders in the magazine, Knack.
Looks like carmine bought into the Russian propaganda, again. Some day you'll be correct about something carmine, but not today.
Lavrov sparked outrage in Israel when he repeated a long-disputed claim about Adolf Hitler’s heritage. This is a good example of how a murky bit of family history has allowed
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carmine9 wrote:
Are you not the guy wrote:
Can we agree that any country that kills innocent civilians is in the wrong?
Here in the US as a citizen I get to criticize my government, protest, and vote for more peaceful leaders.
Can we agree or are you not allowed to say anything negative about Putin?
I might agree with you about the US on many subjects but you are not allowed to agree with me about Russia being in the wrong and about Putin being evil.
And that is the difference between you and others here. You are not a free person that get to think for themselves.
You get to criticize your government on Covid? On wars? How'd that work out for you?
In the middle of the worst part of Covid my family and I took a trip across the country in a camper.
There were restrictions in place depending on the state but we were able to shop, go to restaurants, parks…. Pretty much do whatever we wanted to do.
We are allowed to say or not say whatever we want about our government, protest, vote… We truly are privileged compared to most of the world.
What Putin underestimated with the Ukrainian people when he figured they would welcome the take over with open arms is that when people get a taste of freedom they simply are not willing to live without it.
They don’t want a dictator and most would rather die than have one. That alone makes them more powerful than Russia.
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carmine9 wrote:
LavrovTheMoney wrote:
Wrong thread carmine. This thread is about Russia getting embarrassed in Ukraine.
I have expanded its subject matter.
The only subject matter that interests you is attacking Jews.
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I heard an interview with Scott Ritter (Iraq War UN weapons inspector and convicted child sex predator) on the Ukraine war. Ritter falls in with anti-NATO leftist like Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate who seem to gobble up any disinformation that comes their way from Russian propaganda accounts on Signal. Ritter had some good points about Russia's relationship with NATO, but at one point came completely unhinged and called Zelensky a Kapo (Jews who collaborated with the SS guards in concentration camps in exchange for better treatment/favors). Shortly thereafter, Lavrov and the Russian propaganda machine go in the same direction. Ritter also talked about the Patrick Lancaster video that claims to show that the Azov battalion actually killed all the civilians in Bucha. Lancaster is embedded with Russian troops and regularly appears on Russian state media. Ritter has also been making regular appearances on Russian state media. Either Russian propagandists and the likes of Ritter, Blumenthal, Mark Crispin Miller, etc. are just a human centipede or you have to wonder whether there is more direct collaboration going on.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
I have expanded its subject matter.
The only subject matter that interests you is attacking Jews.
It is the core of his being.
Indeed, it is the entirety of his being.
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carmine9 wrote:
You get to criticize your government on Covid? On wars? How'd that work out for you?
What in the world is that supposed to mean?
People in free countries (including the US, much of Europe, and many others) criticize their own governments on all topics all the time. They do so without restriction and without fear of someone from the government coming knocking on their door in the middle of the night. Are things really so bad (and real news of the outside world so limited) where you live that you honestly don't know this? That is astounding.
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Russia propaganda will try spin reporting on this war to make it seem successful. But, no matter the outcome, Russia is screwed for a generation or even two. If you can’t see that, you’re living in a cave or your trying to push Russian’s propaganda.
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Looks like Chomsky is a Russian agent too.
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LavrovTheMoney wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
You guys don't understand the most basic stuff about most everthing.
One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised,' adds Mr Mulders in the magazine, Knack.
Looks like carmine bought into the Russian propaganda, again. Some day you'll be correct about something carmine, but not today.
Lavrov sparked outrage in Israel when he repeated a long-disputed claim about Adolf Hitler’s heritage. This is a good example of how a murky bit of family history has allowed
an often-debunked tale to reemerge from time to time.There’s little evidence to support this claim.This guy thinks a DNA result showing Hitler likely had Jewish ancestry -- one done by a Belgian -- is Russian propaganda.
The elites have told them every challenge to the state narrative is Russian propaganda -- and they buy it
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America F Yeah! wrote:
Russia propaganda will try spin reporting on this war to make it seem successful. But, no matter the outcome, Russia is screwed for a generation or even two. If you can’t see that, you’re living in a cave or your trying to push Russian’s propaganda.
You think Ukraine will win this war?
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