has to be the m'aga-est thing I've ever heard. Congrats. You win.
As much as the selective, no doubt massively inconsistent hatred of the FBI disgusts me, at least one could give someone (although not adult) the benefit of the doubt that they recently read some damning anecdotes about the FBI and have perhaps overshot on distrusting and/or hating the whole organization.
But geez, in a whole 'nother universe is stating that Donald Trump didn't try to keep the presidency SIMPLY because he's a massive, massive, massive piece of human sh**, but no, because he had legitimate concerns about the election. IMAGINE having seen that guy speak or tweet even a small handful of times and ACTUALLY still saying this. Stupendous.
"The federal agencies now insist on labeling what happened as an organized and coordinated attack, dismissing those who were protesting while also affirming their own failure to detect and anticipate such an attack. But the facts seem to indicate that as few as one percent of the people who were there fit the label of insurrectionist. While there has been much attention on the presence of a few hundred Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters and other militia members, more than half of those arrested are unaffiliated with any group. In other words, this was an organic protest, arising from a larger movement."
"Which brings us to Donald Trump. He spent two months railing about a stolen election, sowing an enormous amount of discord and spurring on so many. And then on the day itself, he called for the crowd to march on the Capitol. But did he have some secret relationship with the insurrectionists? And was the Trump camp in contact with the leaders or exerting any control? The facts so far, despite many breathless stories about conversations, texts and secret meetings, indicate that the answer is no. The president's behavior was abhorrent and perhaps even criminal, but there is no smoking gun to find."
I didn't say anything about believing Trump. I said the Houck's account is different than the FBI's account and pointed out that the FBI has been caught lying multiple times.
The FBI raided a man's home with machine guns for a SIMPLE ASSAULT charge.
You're condoning fascist behavior because you like the politics of the fascists.
YOU are a fascist.
you just said that you believe trump when he says he thought there was massive fraud in the election. You literally just said that.
I didn't say anything about believing Trump. I said the Houck's account is different than the FBI's account and pointed out that the FBI has been caught lying multiple times.
The FBI raided a man's home with machine guns for a SIMPLE ASSAULT charge.
You're condoning fascist behavior because you like the politics of the fascists.
YOU are a fascist.
you just said that you believe trump when he says he thought there was massive fraud in the election. You literally just said that.
For those of you playing along at home:
Easily the Most Disgusting Poster on This Thread: "Trump didn't want to cancel the election because he lost he wanted to prevent it's certification because he's convinced there was rampant fraud."
As much as the selective, no doubt massively inconsistent hatred of the FBI disgusts me, at least one could give someone (although not adult) the benefit of the doubt that they recently read some damning anecdotes about the FBI and have perhaps overshot on distrusting and/or hating the whole organization.
But geez, in a whole 'nother universe is stating that Donald Trump didn't try to keep the presidency SIMPLY because he's a massive, massive, massive piece of human sh**, but no, because he had legitimate concerns about the election. IMAGINE having seen that guy speak or tweet even a small handful of times and ACTUALLY still saying this. Stupendous.
"The federal agencies now insist on labeling what happened as an organized and coordinated attack, dismissing those who were protesting while also affirming their own failure to detect and anticipate such an attack. But the facts seem to indicate that as few as one percent of the people who were there fit the label of insurrectionist. While there has been much attention on the presence of a few hundred Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters and other militia members, more than half of those arrested are unaffiliated with any group. In other words, this was an organic protest, arising from a larger movement."
"Which brings us to Donald Trump. He spent two months railing about a stolen election, sowing an enormous amount of discord and spurring on so many. And then on the day itself, he called for the crowd to march on the Capitol. But did he have some secret relationship with the insurrectionists? And was the Trump camp in contact with the leaders or exerting any control? The facts so far, despite many breathless stories about conversations, texts and secret meetings, indicate that the answer is no. The president's behavior was abhorrent and perhaps even criminal, but there is no smoking gun to find."
Trying to steal the election was about much more than just the riot. But you know that.
Wanna defend his GA call, again ? (that's and oldie but goodie from you)
How about insisting on Pence stealing it for him ?
you just said that you believe trump when he says he thought there was massive fraud in the election. You literally just said that.
I don't believe it because Trump said it.
I believe it because of the evidence.
the point is that you excuse trump's sending a mob to attack congress by saying 'well he legit thought the election was stolen so it's dandy fine with me for him to not leave the oval office and try to kill the veep'
"The federal agencies now insist on labeling what happened as an organized and coordinated attack, dismissing those who were protesting while also affirming their own failure to detect and anticipate such an attack. But the facts seem to indicate that as few as one percent of the people who were there fit the label of insurrectionist. While there has been much attention on the presence of a few hundred Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters and other militia members, more than half of those arrested are unaffiliated with any group. In other words, this was an organic protest, arising from a larger movement."
"Which brings us to Donald Trump. He spent two months railing about a stolen election, sowing an enormous amount of discord and spurring on so many. And then on the day itself, he called for the crowd to march on the Capitol. But did he have some secret relationship with the insurrectionists? And was the Trump camp in contact with the leaders or exerting any control? The facts so far, despite many breathless stories about conversations, texts and secret meetings, indicate that the answer is no. The president's behavior was abhorrent and perhaps even criminal, but there is no smoking gun to find."
Trying to steal the election was about much more than just the riot. But you know that.
Wanna defend his GA call, again ? (that's and oldie but goodie from you)
How about insisting on Pence stealing it for him ?
How about encouraging alternate electors ?
Etc., etc., etc.
Moreover, we all know that he was THRILLED that the protest turned out like it did, and as both the President and the CinC did NOTHING to stop it for hours.
A proud day for a man JUST upset over a fraudulent election, no doubt.
you just said that you believe trump when he says he thought there was massive fraud in the election. You literally just said that.
For those of you playing along at home:
Easily the Most Disgusting Poster on This Thread: "Trump didn't want to cancel the election because he lost he wanted to prevent it's certification because he's convinced there was rampant fraud."
yeah NEVER believe right wing media. Never. Don't do it. it's just clickbait trying to make money off the rubes.
"On several occasions when Mark went to sidewalk counsel last year, he took his eldest son, who was only 12 at the time, she explained. For “weeks and weeks,” a “pro-abortion protester” would speak to the boy saying “crude … inappropriate and disgusting things,” such as “you’re dad’s a fag,” and other statements that were too vulgar for her to convey. Repeatedly, Mark would tell this pro-abortion man that he did not have permission to speak to his son and please refrain from doing so. And “he kept doing it and kind of came into [the son’s] personal space” obscenely ridiculing his father. At this point, “Mark shoved him away from his child, and the guy fell back.”
The case was thrown out of court because the escort is a lying POS.
The FBI knew the facts of this case and knew that the escort wasn't pushed in any way relating to the FACE Act yet they raided his home anyway.
Meanwhile, FBI whistleblowers are saying the brass at the FBI is incentivizing investigations into conservatives.
Easily the Most Disgusting Poster on This Thread: "Trump didn't want to cancel the election because he lost he wanted to prevent it's certification because he's convinced there was rampant fraud."
52% of Americans believe cheating impacted the 2020 elections.
You cannot mail ballots to every name on bloated inaccurate registries and then remove all methods of validation and have a fair election.
The house, senate, and presidential races in 2020 were decided by 43,000 votes.
By point:
1) Fortunately, our legal and bureaucratic systems are not (currently) run by polls.
2) For the umpteenth time, NO ONE who matters agrees with your second point (or the gist of the first). You find internet sites that do (right next to the moon landings), but NO ONE who matters. Almost 2 years.
More germane to this exchange, none of that has anything to do with you ACTUALLY believing that Trump did what he did for ANY reasons that aren't disgusting (but utterly predictable). And saying it just makes you look like a massive Trumper moran, YET AGAIN.
from the front lines of 'conservatives' attacking law enforcement: Fanone was a LEO at J6:
Rachel Weiner @rachelweinerwp Michael Fanone, speaking at Kyle Young's sentencing -- "This is not my first rodeo ... But this case is unique. The assault on me by Mr. young cost me my career, it cost me my faith in law enforcement and many of the institutions I dedicated two decades of my life to serving."
When you say, "Academic discussion," do you mean like between pre-schoolers? (with apologies to some pre-schoolers)
Stuff like this literally reminds me of some kind of Sesame Street skit.
"Hey kids, I'm having trouble C-O-M-P-A-R-I-N-G. Can you help me ?!"
Is "ONE MAN" doing a bad thing THE SAME AS a president and hundreds of sycophants (with millions of supporters) explicitly and persistently trying to steal an election ??"
Please let me know, kids. Thanks !!
And while we're at it, here's a more graduate level Sesame Street question:
"Are a few Democratic politicians making some sour grapes and/or perhaps intemperate remarks about the 2016 election THE SAME AS a president and hundreds of sycophants (with millions of supporters) explicitly and persistently trying to steal an election ??"
Like I said, a LITTLE bit harder, but.........the freakin' SIMPLE answer is "NO."
Thanks for playing, morans.
You think trying to overturn major court decisions by threatening violence (which, for the record, was more than one person) is no big deal?
52% of Americans believe cheating impacted the 2020 elections.
You cannot mail ballots to every name on bloated inaccurate registries and then remove all methods of validation and have a fair election.
The house, senate, and presidential races in 2020 were decided by 43,000 votes.
By point:
1) Fortunately, our legal and bureaucratic systems are not (currently) run by polls.
2) For the umpteenth time, NO ONE who matters agrees with your second point (or the gist of the first). You find internet sites that do (right next to the moon landings), but NO ONE who matters. Almost 2 years.
More germane to this exchange, none of that has anything to do with you ACTUALLY believing that Trump did what he did for ANY reasons that aren't disgusting (but utterly predictable). And saying it just makes you look like a massive Trumper moran, YET AGAIN.
1) A more intelligent person would understand that when a MAJORITY of people don't have faith in the integrity of elections it is a problem.
Justice Clarence Thomas failed to report nearly $700,000 of his wife's income, checking a box that said "none" on disclosure forms--according to @CommonCause
When you say, "Academic discussion," do you mean like between pre-schoolers? (with apologies to some pre-schoolers)
Stuff like this literally reminds me of some kind of Sesame Street skit.
"Hey kids, I'm having trouble C-O-M-P-A-R-I-N-G. Can you help me ?!"
Is "ONE MAN" doing a bad thing THE SAME AS a president and hundreds of sycophants (with millions of supporters) explicitly and persistently trying to steal an election ??"
Please let me know, kids. Thanks !!
And while we're at it, here's a more graduate level Sesame Street question:
"Are a few Democratic politicians making some sour grapes and/or perhaps intemperate remarks about the 2016 election THE SAME AS a president and hundreds of sycophants (with millions of supporters) explicitly and persistently trying to steal an election ??"
Like I said, a LITTLE bit harder, but.........the freakin' SIMPLE answer is "NO."
Thanks for playing, morans.
You think trying to overturn major court decisions by threatening violence (which, for the record, was more than one person) is no big deal?
If laws were broken, investigate and/or prosecute away. Very, very, very few anti-Trumpers will disagree with this.
But no, of course the threatening of judges (or judge?) associated with the abortion decision DOES NOT come CLOSE to "as big a deal" as the first threatened transfer of presidential power in our ~250 year history.
Made hugely worse by the fact that if you don't STILL agree that that transfer should have been resisted, one of only 2 major parties in this country will excommunicate you.
