Official Russia vs Ukraine War Thread

DanM wrote:

I went up into my attic and found my old Hammond Historical Atlas from High School. It contains about 40 maps showing the area of Ukraine from around 600 BC until 1970. None of those 40 maps show Ukraine as an independent sovereign country. Over the course of 2500 years, large portions of Ukraine were part of other countries such as the Ottoman Empire, the Kingdom of the Kievan Rus, Poland, Romania, Lithuania and Russia.

There is NOT a reasonable historical, political, social or cultural basis to declare that Ukraine has the right to exist as an independent nation. The Ukraine that emerged in 1991 was the result of a decision by the Bolsheviks in 1922 to split off Ukraine as its own separate Soviet Republic.

carmine9 wrote:

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

We should return Texas to Mexico. The midwest to France. And the rest of the US to indigenous groups that laid claim to the land for 5000 yrs+ compared to the US's mere 200.

Makes far more sense than the Euro Jews "returning" to Palestine and claiming that land because they think some of the ancestry may have lived there 2,000 years ago.

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Makes far more sense than the Euro Jews "returning" to Palestine and claiming that land because they think some of the ancestry may have lived there 2,000 years ago.

Agreed. The Palestinians should have fought back.

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Makes far more sense than the Euro Jews "returning" to Palestine and claiming that land because they think some of the ancestry may have lived there 2,000 years ago.

Agreed. The Palestinians should have fought back.

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

Agreed. The Palestinians should have fought back.

No anti-semitism here, unlike you carmy9. It's just the simple truth that you must aggressively defend your land or it will be taken.

carmine9 wrote:

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

Agreed. The Palestinians should have fought back.

They still are.

And called animals and terrorists for doing so

carmine9 wrote:

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

No anti-semitism here, unlike you carmy9. It's just the simple truth that you must aggressively defend your land or it will be taken.

The old might is right worldview

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

They still are.

And called animals and terrorists for doing so

Well they had to do it 60 years ago. Killing civilians isn't the solution now.

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

The old might is right worldview

Herzl et al knew how to get it done.

carmine9 wrote:

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

We should return Texas to Mexico. The midwest to France. And the rest of the US to indigenous groups that laid claim to the land for 5000 yrs+ compared to the US's mere 200.

Makes far more sense than the Euro Jews "returning" to Palestine and claiming that land because they think some of the ancestry may have lived there 2,000 years ago.

Are you not the guy wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Makes far more sense than the Euro Jews "returning" to Palestine and claiming that land because they think some of the ancestry may have lived there 2,000 years ago.

Focus Carmine. This thread is about Russia and Ukraine.

carmine9 wrote:

Link:www.businessinsider.com/china-russia-a...

Are you not the guy wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Link:www.businessinsider.com/china-russia-a...

Whether you like it or not Russia is a small player in the global market. The state of New York is bigger.

China is a major player in the world market. Russia is just China’s gas tank.

Sorry Carmine, your entire country is full of losers.

carmine9 wrote:

Are you not the guy wrote:

Whether you like it or not Russia is a small player in the global market. The state of New York is bigger.

China is a major player in the world market. Russia is just China’s gas tank.

Sorry Carmine, your entire country is full of losers.

How to totally miss the entire point

HappyJack wrote:

Cuidad Juarez wrote:

We should return Texas to Mexico. The midwest to France. And the rest of the US to indigenous groups that laid claim to the land for 5000 yrs+ compared to the US's mere 200.

We, if you mean the USA, we can't give Texas back to Mexico. Texas won that land from Mexico during their war for independence. Texas was their own Republic from March 2, 1836, to February 19, 1846. Only The Republic of Texas can return captured territory back to Mexico. Knowledge of history is an important attribute which many/most Americans are embarrassingly lacking in.