The testers seem more than happy to test Paula's samples. I think they are in a better position to determine their viability than you.
The testers seem more than happy to test Paula's samples. I think they are in a better position to determine their viability than you.
A couple of questions:
If an athlete is receiving blood transfusions, where does this happen? At home, or at a clinic?
How often would a doped athlete receive blood transfusions? Once or twice a year, or more regularly? (And perhaps focussed towards specific races?)
cleans wrote:
A couple of questions:
If an athlete is receiving blood transfusions, where does this happen? At home, or at a clinic?
How often would a doped athlete receive blood transfusions? Once or twice a year, or more regularly? (And perhaps focussed towards specific races?)
You have to ask bobblehead these questions, she is 10 feet tall.
I'm assuming it's the sort of thing that can't be done at home.
After a bit of Googling, the only clinic I can see that Paula visited regularly was one in Limerick (which it seems that Kelly Holmes and a former male marathon world record holder used to visit also).
cleans wrote:
I'm assuming it's the sort of thing that can't be done at home.
After a bit of Googling, the only clinic I can see that Paula visited regularly was one in Limerick (which it seems that Kelly Holmes and a former male marathon world record holder used to visit also).
Sounds suspect!
A bit more digging produced this fascinating interview:
I'm surprised this guy's name hasn't been mentioned more (at all?) on here, given how closely he appears to have been involved in PR's career - even travelling to high altitude camps with her.
This quote in particular caught my eye. I didn't realise that a siesta had any relationship with HGH production:
"She would take her two hours’ rest every afternoon with blackout blinds, ensuring she got two full hours. Gary would stay out of the apartment and the phone in the lobby was turned off, so there was no distraction. That’s the attention to fine detail. That meant she could increase her human growth hormone naturally, which helped her recover optimally."
Kinda funny that his initials are GH.
Looks like the Sunday Times bottled it with the big article!
Yep nothing in the Sunday Times which makes you wonder who signed off on the original story, cos with the inevitable focus on Radcliffe, what is the point of doing half a job? Either they have evidence enough to prove doping or tbh why bother?
I thought the work on strength (ploy metrics) to improve closing speed was interesting. She went from closing in 67 to closing in 61 in her late twenties. I have no reason to think that was not done cleanly but it is interesting because such improvement in Rupp or Farah is cited as a reason to think they are dopers
cleans wrote:
This quote in particular caught my eye. I didn't realise that a siesta had any relationship with HGH production:
"She would take her two hours� rest every afternoon with blackout blinds, ensuring she got two full hours. Gary would stay out of the apartment and the phone in the lobby was turned off, so there was no distraction. That�s the attention to fine detail. That meant she could increase her human growth hormone naturally, which helped her recover optimally."
janshir khan wrote:
Yep nothing in the Sunday Times which makes you wonder who signed off on the original story, cos with the inevitable focus on Radcliffe, what is the point of doing half a job? Either they have evidence enough to prove doping or tbh why bother?
The lawyers are sorting it out....
Lawyers?
No story from David Walsh
I"m speculating. Paula threatened to sue. Maybe Paula and her lawyer have scared off Sunday Times.
It's very surprising that there's no story today. More surprising still, since I figured Walsh's piece would be very generous to Paula, since he's close to her and it seems the British press is rallying around PR -- even going so far as to demonize the MP who 'outed' her.
After doing some searching this morning, I stumbled upon quotes from various luminaries crediting PR with starting women's running in GB and of selling millions of running shoes.
I'm afraid this story is going to get swept under the rug - like NOP.
So few people pay close attention to elite running that governing bodies can just wait out negative stories like NOP, and the IAAF leaks without any real fear of being held to account.
She didn't improve that much. In Edmonton her last lap was 63 which was at the end of a close race and I think in Monaco when she set the 3000m nr she closed in 63 too. But at the cwg her last lap was 67ish
As I understand it, most blood dopers aren't mavericks, they are part of a systematic programme of doping with a focal point (cf. Operation Puerto, Balco, Ferrari, etc.).
The BBC identified this focal point in their documentary on the NOP. They uncovered enough witnesses to merit a formal investigation by WADA/USADA (can't remember which).
The PR investigation needs to gain energy in this area in order to remain interesting to Joe Public.
The Scot wrote:
Lawyers?
No story from David Walsh
Walsh has tweeted that he is now hoping to interview PR this week. Therefore his article and interview should now be in next week's ST.
Ben S wrote:
The Scot wrote:Lawyers?
No story from David Walsh
Walsh has tweeted that he is now hoping to interview PR this week. Therefore his article and interview should now be in next week's ST.
I think we're all really looking forward to what the ghost writer of Paula's autobiography has to say, sure he'll be pulling no punches in the interview lol
ClearEyedImpartiality wrote:
I think we're all really looking forward to what the ghost writer of Paula's autobiography has to say, sure he'll be pulling no punches in the interview lol
I think Walsh's credentials for exposing doping in sport are bullet proof : while I imagine he starts from a position of sympathy for PR, if he thinks something's amiss he'll say so. He called LA into question in 1999 when most others were doting on him and didn't hesitate to call Stephen Roche out for suspected EPO use even though he'd previously ghost written two books with Roche and had been close friends with him.
Ben S wrote:
if he thinks something's amiss he'll say so.
He has access to the ST data so obviously he knows something is amiss