That is his go-to. Inflation under Biden goes from 1.7% to 9.1%. Fat Hurts - "All countries have high inflation." Supply chains problems in the US are severe and far-reaching. Fat Hurts - "All countries are having supply chain problems." Tesla ranks second lowest in reliablity." Fat Hurts - "All car makers have reliability problems." National debt in US is astronomical and really affecting the country. Fat Hurts - "All countries have high national debt"
Facts.
Not facts. Sally was lying. I never said any of those things about inflation, supply chain, or national debt.
I already said that I haven't. But I know enough about both to say that Tesla is ahead overall.
I’ve driven both quite a bit. The Mach-e is a much better car than any Tesla model. No comparison. I have two friends who have Teslas and after driving my mach-e have placed orders for one. They’re going to sell their Teslas when they come in.
This family owned both a Tesla and a Mach-e. They got fed up with the Mach-e and sold it.
If you’re looking to buy a Mach-E, you may want to hold your horses 🤣 Look beyond its exterior beauty and really examine the operating system-it may change ...
If you are going to say one car is better than another you need to go beyond personal taste. Talk about specs and capabilities.
The Tesla has better specs and it has lots of features that the Mach-e does not. The only feature I know of in the Mach-e that you don't get in a Tesla is the drain plug in the frunk.
Nit picking on him having a reliable car? This guy.
All I can say is that Fat Hurts needs to look into RockAuto and some youtube videos. I've been fixing my own cars for over 30 years, and I laugh at those charts which purport to show the "total cost of ownership" of a vehicle. Maybe someone is paying that much, but not me. I recently replaced all of the major components in my A/C system (minus the evaporator) for under $400. I don't know if you could get your brake pads changed for less than that at the dealership.
My main concern about future generations of vehicles is that the "right to repair" is retained. From what I understand, it is extremely difficult to get parts and technical information from Tesla. Perhaps when things become more mainstream, this will change.
Tesla used to get criticized for that. But they now publish all the information you need to do your own maintenance. Unfortunately, for people who enjoy working on cars, there just isn't much that needs to be done on an EV.
But if he really neglected most of his scheduled maintenance and had no issues then he just got lucky.
I was only talking about repairs to the car. Of course I had the oil changed, tires changed and a few other maintenance stuff.
You didn't even come close to following the scheduled maintenance. It's not that you waited too long. For some maintenance items, you just didn't do them at all. And some of the things you neglected could have cost you thousands in repair costs. You just got lucky.
I’ve driven both quite a bit. The Mach-e is a much better car than any Tesla model. No comparison. I have two friends who have Teslas and after driving my mach-e have placed orders for one. They’re going to sell their Teslas when they come in.
This family owned both a Tesla and a Mach-e. They got fed up with the Mach-e and sold it.
If you are going to say one car is better than another you need to go beyond personal taste. Talk about specs and capabilities.
The Tesla has better specs and it has lots of features that the Mach-e does not. The only feature I know of in the Mach-e that you don't get in a Tesla is the drain plug in the frunk.
C’mon. You haven’t even driven a Mach-e so you dragged some YouTube video out??? Do better.
If you ever did drive a Mach-e for a while, you’d get rid of your Tesla for one in a heartbeat. It’s that much better for many of the reasons I’ve already given. If you want a computer, by all means get a tesla. If you want a quality vehicle, go with the Mach-e.
If you are going to say one car is better than another you need to go beyond personal taste. Talk about specs and capabilities.
The Tesla has better specs and it has lots of features that the Mach-e does not. The only feature I know of in the Mach-e that you don't get in a Tesla is the drain plug in the frunk.
C’mon. You haven’t even driven a Mach-e so you dragged some YouTube video out??? Do better.
If you ever did drive a Mach-e for a while, you’d get rid of your Tesla for one in a heartbeat. It’s that much better for many of the reasons I’ve already given. If you want a computer, by all means get a tesla. If you want a quality vehicle, go with the Mach-e.
And the Mach-e isn’t even the best EV out there.
You dragged out some friends you say made a switch. I'm just pointing out that the switch can go both ways.
Again, Tesla has better specs. And the Tesla does things that no other car can do. If you care about those features, you will get the Tesla instead of the Ford.
The only reason you say the Mach-e is better is because you like the way it drives. If you personally like the way one drives over the other, that's fine. But it doesn't make the Mach-e better in any measurable way.
C’mon. You haven’t even driven a Mach-e so you dragged some YouTube video out??? Do better.
If you ever did drive a Mach-e for a while, you’d get rid of your Tesla for one in a heartbeat. It’s that much better for many of the reasons I’ve already given. If you want a computer, by all means get a tesla. If you want a quality vehicle, go with the Mach-e.
And the Mach-e isn’t even the best EV out there.
You dragged out some friends you say made a switch. I'm just pointing out that the switch can go both ways.
Again, Tesla has better specs. And the Tesla does things that no other car can do. If you care about those features, you will get the Tesla instead of the Ford.
The only reason you say the Mach-e is better is because you like the way it drives. If you personally like the way one drives over the other, that's fine. But it doesn't make the Mach-e better in any measurable way.
How did the Mach-e drive compared to your Tesla when you drove them?
Agreed. Manufacturing a car sends quite a lot of emissions into the air. From a website called Hotcars.com:
Thus, producing a medium-sized new car costing £24,000 could lock in more than 17 tons of CO2e – almost as much as three years' worth of gas and electricity in the typical UK home. Under these circumstances, the truth would appear to be that, unless you do very high mileage or have a real gas-guzzler, it generally makes sense to keep your old car for as long as it is reliable – and to look after it carefully to extend its life as long as possible. If you make a car last to 200,000 miles rather than 100,000, then the emissions for each mile the car does in its lifetime may drop by as much as 50 percent, as a result of getting more distance out of the initial manufacturing emissions.
OK, but that's an individual choice to make your car last as long as possible and that's impossible to regulate.
You can't change the habits of when people decide to buy new cars. And you need a steady supply of new cars that will become other people's used cars.
If manufacturing one type of car to another creates similar pollutants and emissions to another, then you switch to manufacturing cars that have lower emissions while be operated over a their lifetime - if lowering emissions is your goal, and that is the goal we are talking here.
To reach your goal of people buying fewer cars (or at least not as often) you put a massive tax on sales of both new and used cars. That of course will burden people when it's time to get a car that they need.
Now if EVs can't be kept on the road as long as gas cars, your point would be pretty good. We will know more about their longevity as we approach 2035.
You dragged out some friends you say made a switch. I'm just pointing out that the switch can go both ways.
Again, Tesla has better specs. And the Tesla does things that no other car can do. If you care about those features, you will get the Tesla instead of the Ford.
The only reason you say the Mach-e is better is because you like the way it drives. If you personally like the way one drives over the other, that's fine. But it doesn't make the Mach-e better in any measurable way.
How did the Mach-e drive compared to your Tesla when you drove them?
What is better about the Mach-e other than your personal preference in the way it drives?
Agreed. Manufacturing a car sends quite a lot of emissions into the air. From a website called Hotcars.com:
Thus, producing a medium-sized new car costing £24,000 could lock in more than 17 tons of CO2e – almost as much as three years' worth of gas and electricity in the typical UK home. Under these circumstances, the truth would appear to be that, unless you do very high mileage or have a real gas-guzzler, it generally makes sense to keep your old car for as long as it is reliable – and to look after it carefully to extend its life as long as possible. If you make a car last to 200,000 miles rather than 100,000, then the emissions for each mile the car does in its lifetime may drop by as much as 50 percent, as a result of getting more distance out of the initial manufacturing emissions.
Comparing the manufacturing emissions of a car to the energy consumption of a home is a bit strange.
The usual comparison is net manufacturing plus lifetime operational fuel consumption (plus disposal?). The manufacturing energy is not negligible, but is considerably smaller than the operational energy consumption.
Keeping a car on the road certainly helps amortize the manufacturing energy cost over more miles, but doesn't change the operational energy cost.
Earlier in the article it says that EVs and hybrids generate more emissions than ICE cars do but over time the EV will generate fewer emissions than the ICE and eventually generate fewer if given enough time. But if you are going to get a new car every, say, three to five years, you'll generate fewer emissions buying an ICE than you will buying a hybrid or EV.
I am not against electric cars, but we can't switch over as fast as they are trying to make it happen. An electric car needs 4 times as much copper as a gasoline car. Add in more copper for millions of charging stations. Wind and solar farms need huge amounts also. New copper mines can take years to develop and permit. We need need to be starting new mines now to have them in ten years, and it is not happening fast enough. Same for graphite, lithium and other minerals. It is a huge project to go mostly or all electric, and will take time.
Earlier in the article it says that EVs and hybrids generate more emissions than ICE cars do but over time the EV will generate fewer emissions than the ICE and eventually generate fewer if given enough time. But if you are going to get a new car every, say, three to five years, you'll generate fewer emissions buying an ICE than you will buying a hybrid or EV.
Maybe, but your 3-5 year old car will go on the used market and someone will eventually drive it into the ground. That is, it's the net rate of emissions of the fleet that matters, not the carbon footprint of any particular individual.
Earlier in the article it says that EVs and hybrids generate more emissions than ICE cars do but over time the EV will generate fewer emissions than the ICE and eventually generate fewer if given enough time. But if you are going to get a new car every, say, three to five years, you'll generate fewer emissions buying an ICE than you will buying a hybrid or EV.
Not if someone else continues to drive your EV. If you just threw it away, you would be correct.
Earlier in the article it says that EVs and hybrids generate more emissions than ICE cars do but over time the EV will generate fewer emissions than the ICE and eventually generate fewer if given enough time. But if you are going to get a new car every, say, three to five years, you'll generate fewer emissions buying an ICE than you will buying a hybrid or EV.
It's not three to five years. The studies I've seen on this put the ICE and EV at parity after only about one year on the road.
Even so, you should take into account that someone will buy your used car and continue to drive it.
Any way you cut it, the EV produces a lot less emissions over its lifetime. So it's always a lot more environmentally friendly to buy an EV.
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