Modifying the Norwegian approach to lower mileage

We should delete the trolls and just keep the anecdotes, along with the original guide on how to do it post, now that it's pretty much set for 3 single-thresholds a week.

Well said! after the fact foreword by A Coggan

what about breaststroke though? I think it should allow for more muscle respiratory capacity

New poster here, where is the Strava group(hard2find) you people are speaking of as well as the legendary sirpoc's strava? Really interested in trying out the approach.

nvm, just found it, though I haven't really used Strava before.

Basically i agree, i would say very little.

In general it is impotant to distunguish between trained/untrained and experienced/not experienced athlete.

So what do you guys see as the benefit of easy days, given that easy volume is always going to be much larger than the harder days?

Let the nerds figure it out. But it's laughable to think as someone else suggested 95% of the training comes from the sub threshold days. You think sirpoc who I have been following on Strava runs maybe a low 16 still compared to what he does now, off none of the other volume just thr sub t? The question is how quantifiable it is. Despite all the noise coming from clowns like lexel and Coggan, nobody has offered actually anything in terms of practicality in reality.

Take the same drugs and run fewer miles.

I agree, this thread attracts some really lazy runners. sirpoc gives them the simplest possible training plan that works, a plan that is so simple that a monkey could execute it, and yet they're STILL looking to cut corners. Already they're tempted to start cutting the easy miles. Pathetic.

What is the question here exactly?

Good that you have found the group.

We don't give out identities on LR, so you have to suss out for yourself, who Sirpoc is! Shouldn't be difficult.

What were your workout paces when running 18:05?

oh noes, Steven went over to the dark side...

hint: his first name is K...r and last name is I...n, good luck

I’m enjoying your repeated attempts to suggest the wrong person

For the tards with reading comprehension issues - the original suggestion - mine - was that high mileage easy days are not anywhere near as critical as T days, That's not even debate-able but somehow it still got a million down-votes.

95 percent of the IMPROVEMENT comes from the T sessions. Clearly if you left out the T sessions you wouldn't be improving at all unless you were a complete newbie. Everyone and their mother does Easy days - there's even entire programs built around them 'easy intervals' for example and for the most part they all SUCK. T sessions are what drives the improvement. Easy days are there primarily for RECOVERY from the T sessions - if you didnt need to recover you could just do T sessions every day. And ramping up mileage and/or speed on easy days is only slowing down the recovery process.

Why this is not plain as day is beyond me but whatever.

There are two guys right in a row a few pages up who are using Thresh training with basically NO easy days - they literally do NOTHING on those days - and getting the SAME type of success as Sirpoc. All that does is completely validate my point that easy days are no where near as critical as most think - especially high mileage easy days.

That's not laziness or short-cutting - it's using the brains God gave u for something other than supporting your hat.

In any case - I don't see a lot of evidence in the strava group that ANYONE is using this training other than Sirpoc. I looked at almost all of the top 100 non-private runners and checked their training and only found Sirpoc and maybe 2 or 3 other guys actually doing even a version of what he is doing. 98 percent of the strava group either does zero T sessions - or they do completely conventional training with one T session thrown in randomly every week or two.

He has mental issues, either weakness or real mental illness. Unwatchable drivel