Has there been any movement on the Vanderbilt throws position? Been open a long time.
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Boulder_bro wrote:
I know Idaho isn't a major athletic power, but $70-80k to be a director at the D1 level is a sad reflection for how the position is valued by a university and the state. I know track is a "non-revenue sport", but these coaches do provide value to a university. They are often the person on campus with the most meaningful and impactful relationships with upwards of 100 students. Student-athletes' experiences are impacted more by their coaches than their professors, on average.
I coached D1 with some success for over 15 years. I now work in k-12 education and when I think of the 2500 teachers (myself included) in our city alone, all of whom will make more than our local G5 university's head coach if they stick around for 10 years, it puts into perspective how little value is placed on college coaching in "non-revenue" sports. The G5 head coach with 100 athletes earns less than one of our districts 50 PE teachers. The mid-major Olympic sport coach isn't as valuable as a school district's 50th PE teacher?
Obviously salaries aren't based on true societal value (a teacher is more valuable to society than than the 12th man on an NBA team, for example), but it is an interesting comparison as NCAA coaching and HS PE teachers are both likely state employees in the same/reciprocal systems.
Sadly, with the way the NCAA is going it is likely to get worse for most track coaches, not better. Anyone looking to get into coaching now is crazy.
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between Newell and Kovacs as the most recent coaches in that position, I imagine AT is holding out for a top tier candidate. could be a while before those pieces move into place
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They originally posted that job at 63k. I imagine the response was not great and they had to rethink the salary. Still not great, but pretty much in line with other big sky schools and those in the area.
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Which is especially sad given the very high cost of living, especially housing, there and in pretty much all the Big Sky school locations.
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Not happening, happy in Storrs with the Huskies. Coach Evan Darm is going to do an amazing job. Has the Alumni's full support. Go Camels & Go Coach Darm!!!
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Lee University is hiring a jumps/combined events coach. Pay is $35,000-$40,000. Email cmorgan@leeuniversity if interested .
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It’s going to be extremely tough to get a “top tier” throws coach at Vandy. They literally had no throws history whatsoever before Kovacs and Newell went there. On top of that, Vandy isn’t the easiest school to get into. Probably a better shot of getting a mid major coach wanting to move up.
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Mac wrote:
Boulder_bro wrote:
I know Idaho isn't a major athletic power, but $70-80k to be a director at the D1 level is a sad reflection for how the position is valued by a university and the state. I know track is a "non-revenue sport", but these coaches do provide value to a university. They are often the person on campus with the most meaningful and impactful relationships with upwards of 100 students. Student-athletes' experiences are impacted more by their coaches than their professors, on average.
I coached D1 with some success for over 15 years. I now work in k-12 education and when I think of the 2500 teachers (myself included) in our city alone, all of whom will make more than our local G5 university's head coach if they stick around for 10 years, it puts into perspective how little value is placed on college coaching in "non-revenue" sports. The G5 head coach with 100 athletes earns less than one of our districts 50 PE teachers. The mid-major Olympic sport coach isn't as valuable as a school district's 50th PE teacher?
Obviously salaries aren't based on true societal value (a teacher is more valuable to society than than the 12th man on an NBA team, for example), but it is an interesting comparison as NCAA coaching and HS PE teachers are both likely state employees in the same/reciprocal systems.
Sadly, with the way the NCAA is going it is likely to get worse for most track coaches, not better. Anyone looking to get into coaching now is crazy.
Y’all seriously need to realize that nobody gives a flying f$ck about track/cross country outside of you coaches and the athletes. Your families barely even care what happens in the sport. They ain’t going to pay more, it doesn’t matter, and it’s all lost income in the end for an athletic department. I’m thankful for those of you that stick around and continue to be great role models for young people. That is extremely important and has an immeasurable amount of impact on young people. That’s the power of sports. Outside of that, there’s like 5 ADs in this country that genuinely care about the sport.
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Monstahz wrote:
Y’all seriously need to realize that nobody gives a flying f$ck about track/cross country outside of you coaches and the athletes. Your families barely even care what happens in the sport.
Truer words have never been typed here.
Go out to Eugene, have an athlete win a NC, some more with AA honors. Enjoy a few beers and handshakes with the other coaches. Soak it up while you can, because the second you get home nobody has any clue wtf you been doing for a week. THAT’s life in the big time baby. Hahaha
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Is it public knowledge yet that Devin West is at Tennessee. What a nomad
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statsguy wrote:
Is it public knowledge yet that Devin West is at Tennessee. What a nomad
He's going to have quite a t-shirt blanket when he retires, he must be up to 15 by now, no where more than two years
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hopefully he doesn't betray the guy that hired him this time.
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Sorry you all didn’t get the job, but he was probably more qualified and had better connections. It’s a positive when young coaches get hired rather than recycling old coaches with outdated training styles and philosophies!
Good luck on the next job!
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Monstahz wrote:
Y’all seriously need to realize that nobody gives a flying f$ck about track/cross country outside of you coaches and the athletes. Your families barely even care what happens in the sport. They ain’t going to pay more, it doesn’t matter, and it’s all lost income in the end for an athletic department. I’m thankful for those of you that stick around and continue to be great role models for young people. That is extremely important and has an immeasurable amount of impact on young people. That’s the power of sports. Outside of that, there’s like 5 ADs in this country that genuinely care about the sport.
I don't dispute that few people actually care what happens at a college track meet, and you are also correct that more money is not coming. However, your commentary that coaches provide an immeasurable impact on young people proves my point. State budgets could easily allocate money if they valued the service these coaches provide, but they don't . Nobody cares what kids do in PE classes either, yet the 10,000 or so PE teachers in California are paid six-figure salaries while the 15 or so head track coaches at the state universities would be lucky to match that. You can make more money coaching in community college in California than you can in D1.
It is just an observation.
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