Shut your mouth you dweeb. Nothing about this is "the nature of the conversation". All of this is contingent on a loser like you feeling entitled to sh*t up threads wherever you go.
No, I haven't missed a thing. As I said, there is little scientific support for the common belief that individuals differ in terms of their stamina (i.e., resistance to fatigue during prolonged exercise). Once you account for "threshold", what little variation that exists between individuals (<10%, even when analyzing training, not racing, data from cyclists in the "real world", thus including additional noise from non-maximal, non-constant efforts) may very well just be due to measurement error, such that even just a 1% error in determining "threshold" will result in nearly a 10% difference in the duration that intensity can be maintained.
Anyway, as the saying goes, claims require evidence, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So, it's now up to you to demonstrate that 1) once you account for "threshold", stamina does indeed differ between individuals, and 2) explain the physiological mechanisms.
(Note that I say all of the above despite having devised a mathematical model that includes stamina as one of the parameters. To quote Albert Korzybski: "The map is not the territory.")
Tuk Tuk, makes the train and is gone.
And another paper, they call it durability there. Hot topic btw now in sport science. That fatigue happens, knows any guy doing sport:) No need to question that, it's there. Also in this papers, like the one before, individual fatigue variations are visible.
Conclusion: ..., These recommendations are based on the findings of the current study and of a recent study published by our group (34), which showed that one of the most effective training characteristics for improving durability was increased training volume.
You are a total POS. The ego on you. You have literally not brought a single thing to this thread. Other than a couple of pages ago to summarise what you think this thread is about, that at least two dozen people have probably done for you.
The internet is definitely a tool for debate, but it's not a tool for debate so actual tools like you can have their evos stroked. You come to the absolute wrong forum for that, go back to whatever hole you are left not banned from and go let them tickle your balls until you smile instead. Start your own thread rather than one that has hundreds of followers. You won't, you've come to this thread for whatever reason, seen how active it is and you like the attention. Probably no friends at school kind of kid.
As ever, the guy who shouts loudest is almost certainly not the smartest person in the room. Your emotional intelligence is bordering on zero and going on some of your scientific or academic posts, I would have to say that is in question as well. Just because you have had many papers published, doesn't make you right or smart. There's thousands of idiots every year who have their work published in journals literally nobody cares about.
Your position is never clear, when it is you marry yourself to it with no room for debate and it you are shown wrong, you have full on temper tantrums with the scientific old retort of 'you're wrong of course'. You make me appreciate lexel. Bring lexel back. At least he wasn't an insufferable little whiny bi*ch like you.
And another paper, they call it durability there. Hot topic btw now in sport science. That fatigue happens, knows any guy doing sport:) No need to question that, it's there. Also in this papers, like the one before, individual fatigue variations are visible.
Conclusion: ..., These recommendations are based on the findings of the current study and of a recent study published by our group (34), which showed that one of the most effective training characteristics for improving durability was increased training volume.
Lexel don't waste time. It's obviously not real Coggan, just some random troll who has had melt down now .
Yes, as I said, #sportsscientists have now discovered "durability", i.e., resistance to fatigue during prolonged, lower intensity exercise. My point is that there is no good evidence that differences between individuals are real, versus simply being a mathematical artifact.
In fact, as we discussed at the end of the second podcast I am supposed to be back on Inside Exercise (the name being a play on the news show Inside Edition) after we finish up a couple of studies that we have in progress.
Quite a bit of data now on dietary nitrate and muscle power - the effect is several fold larger than on endurance performance.
Acute or chronic dietary NO3- intake significantly increases maximal muscle power in humans. The magnitude of this effect-on average, ~ 5%-is likely to be of considerable practical and clinical importance.
Yes, as I said, #sportsscientists have now discovered "durability", i.e., resistance to fatigue during prolonged, lower intensity exercise. My point is that there is no good evidence that differences between individuals are real, versus simply being a mathematical artifact.
Why does mainstream 'Exercise Physiology' ignore the Neuroscience? Why do you do this?
Does the average recreational endurance runner’s muscle type (%ST/%FT) differ much from an elite endurance runner. Is the average recreational runner more FT?
Having more type I fibers than average will tend to make you better at endurance sports. As first shown in the 1970s, elite distance runners are therefore characterized by a higher percentage than untrained individuals. Whether that is also true when compared to the average recreational runner may depend on precisely how you define the latter population.
What makes you believe that it does? For example, one of our faculty members uses transcranial direct nerve stimulation to investigate motor learning, whereas another uses PET FDG in studies of how exercise modulates pain perception/tolerance.
I take it that your implying that individuals might differ in terms of their stamina due to differences in their CNS? That's certainly a plausible hypothesis. However, before going down that road don't you think it is important to establish that individuals actually differ in terms of their stamina in the first place, rather than just ass u me ing it to be true? That is my point.
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I understand your point. It may be true. However, 47 years of frustration with 'sports science' and 'exercise physiology' ignoring the fact that running and cycling are skills makes me want to point out the widespread ignorance in these fields of study.
Fortunately some researchers have gone some way to addressing the issue.
What makes you believe that it does? For example, one of our faculty members uses transcranial direct nerve stimulation to investigate motor learning, whereas another uses PET FDG in studies of how exercise modulates pain perception/tolerance.
I take it that your implying that individuals might differ in terms of their stamina due to differences in their CNS? That's certainly a plausible hypothesis. However, before going down that road don't you think it is important to establish that individuals actually differ in terms of their stamina in the first place, rather than just ass u me ing it to be true? That is my point.
So why do YOU ignore the Neuroscience?
You seem to be claiming that Bioenergetics is all about metabolism and ignoring Biomechanics.
Limited attention is probably paid to "skill" (motor control) in running or cycling because it is relatively unimportant in determining performance, at/least especially in comparison to sports such as swimming.
I don't "ignore" motor control, I just know that once you account for metabolic energy production and biophysical determinants of running economy, there's not much room left for it in trying to understand why some people can run faster than others.
(That said, later this year - i.e., once the FOA is released - a colleague and I are planning to apply to NIA for a grant to study walking economy in postmenopausal women, because there is growing belief that an increased energy cost of movement contributes to greater fatigability in older individuals. But, it's a different population than athletes.)
Can we move this dick measuring science b/s to another thread?
Tbh, he doesn't measure much.
It's actually hilarious to see how much the crowed has turned on Coggan in a short space of time. The man is a first class a**hole. Often pretends to be an expert in stuff he actually has little or no understanding of. He thinks the threads are his lab. Listen bro, this isn't a lab but a thread filled with real world and practical advice.
He's banned from pretty much every other forum. His reputation is in absolute tatters these days and he routinely lies about his own athletic credentials and achievements as an athlete with no verifiable results. Literally Google the dude and forums and it's entire car crash with the same pattern, over an over again. He's probably a narcissist, I would imagine, having worked in the psychosocial field for the last 30 years, he pretty much fits the perfect narcissistic traits.
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