opwkfpoewsdf lkamsfd wrote:Totally agree, but the absolute proof piece is important in order to convince those with an IQ
. . . Below 80.
To finish your sentence correctly
opwkfpoewsdf lkamsfd wrote:Totally agree, but the absolute proof piece is important in order to convince those with an IQ
. . . Below 80.
To finish your sentence correctly
Has Kip broken 3 hrs legit?
I like reading the accusations as they are laid out, but after the people who believe in Kip provide explanations for them, even if they don't seem plausible, they should be respected to a degree. I think it weakens the case against him to continue to pretend like they are iron clad accusations or that they haven't been addressed. As someone who is still trying to determine guilt, it makes me feel like people are falsely bolstering the case because they may not really have a good one.
changing_shoes wrote:
willful ignorance wrote:There is no runner on the planet that would consider a change of shoes or shorts during a competitive race (or during a training run for that matter) to be logical. Particularly when it's the norm rather than the exception for the runner in question.
Shoes--It could be a good idea in the marathon for a midpacker. What if you doubted your aggressive shoe choice and placed a backup at the half way point just in case your quads cramped? I did a search and several triathletes have considered or done this.
Shorts--You're right. No one would do this.
You could take a bike and chain it to a tree, an old bike.
You could have 2 rental cars.
You could have a friend drive from one location to another.
You could have a friend cross the mat with the chip on, wearing no number, and then give it to you to cross the next mat.
There are only so many ways that you can get from one mat to another and cross it.
Help from a friend who would never talk.
An old bike that you ride to checkpoint area, lock it up or lean it by a tree, cross the mat while walking and looking back (head down) or actually running across the mat, get off, go unlock your bike and do it again. Not hard.
Many people bike around and he wouldn't get a second look from anyone, as again he has no number exposed. Look at the picture for proof. He's walking along the course...can you people really not figure out why?
REMEMBER THIS, your number is hidden, so no one is going to yell at you as they believe that you don't have a chip because no number exposed, hence you aren't activating anything. Think about it.
The back roads at Boston that run parallel to the course are faster on a bike than a 6:50 mile pace...I've biked parts of it, you just have to know where you're going.
Oscar WAS right from the beginning, but too many people want to know exactly how he did it, as in which method. Sorry, as for me, I know it's one of the above and that's enough to satisfy me.
conspiracy? wrote:
I like reading the accusations as they are laid out, but after the people who believe in Kip provide explanations for them, even if they don't seem plausible, they should be respected to a degree.
Garbage, try that one in a court of law
For those who know Kip, how does he manage his dental business if some potential customer in a crime infested area is going to consider him as his dentist? Do these potential customers bother doing a simple google search on dr Litton? Or is Dr Litton's clientele so poor financially that they do not have Internet?
Are they missing lots of teeth? It could be that Dr Litton preys on lower income unsuspecting folks who lack the technology needed to do a simple background check and realize his history of cheating in marathon races.
On course Ollie wrote:
You could take a bike and chain it to a tree, an old bike.
You could have 2 rental cars.
You could have a friend drive from one location to another.
You could have a friend cross the mat with the chip on, wearing no number, and then give it to you to cross the next mat.
There are only so many ways that you can get from one mat to another and cross it.
Help from a friend who would never talk.
An old bike that you ride to checkpoint area, lock it up or lean it by a tree, cross the mat while walking and looking back (head down) or actually running across the mat, get off, go unlock your bike and do it again. Not hard.
Many people bike around and he wouldn't get a second look from anyone, as again he has no number exposed. Look at the picture for proof. He's walking along the course...can you people really not figure out why?
REMEMBER THIS, your number is hidden, so no one is going to yell at you as they believe that you don't have a chip because no number exposed, hence you aren't activating anything. Think about it.
The back roads at Boston that run parallel to the course are faster on a bike than a 6:50 mile pace...I've biked parts of it, you just have to know where you're going.
Oscar WAS right from the beginning, but too many people want to know exactly how he did it, as in which method. Sorry, as for me, I know it's one of the above and that's enough to satisfy me.
How dense can you be? In theory you have a pont, but his entire family has stated that they dropped Kip off at the start line at 90% of these races and confirmed that he never had access to any vehicle or bike during the races. The vast majority of these races could not be negotiated, particularly Boston, without a car or bike. Fact.
Kip's wife has said that the picture some have referred to with Kip "walking" was not that at all. She verified that he was slowing to remove his run pants and hand them to her. Fact.
Come on people. If you want to be taken seriously then you need to use facts that can be verified or at least make accusations that can't be so easily disproved with known facts.
Baxley denying?
He's an idiot. Comes from upbringing
His parents are probably idiots too
doesn't make it so.
How thick can you be?
His entire family stated what? Firstly, I'll play your dumb game, just to make you look even dumber than you all ready do. His family could never confirm that he didn't have access to a bike or vehicle you moron.
Kip's wife said the picture of Kip walking was not that at all. Okay Kip, sure.
Kip's wife said that where...provide your source. I'm waiting:):):):):)
Kip wore all of that gear for that many, many miles (no one else around him did...hmmmm...) and finally decides to discard it, knowing exactly where she'd be. I have some land in Bahamas for sell, interested?
How did she get there and to the finish line? Amazing feat, but we already know that she didn't have a bike or a vehicle as you just claimed, right? Since if she did, Kip would have access to one, right?
YOU put your foot in your mouth with that one, big time!!!! She walked to somewhere around 20 miles and then waited for him to come by. Then she did what. Walked back to Boston??? Think before you post.
I don't believe one person on this board takes you seriously, except yourself and the meds that I hope you take for help.
Where was Kip's wife and family during the interview? Where was the star witness? She saw all of what you said and didn't show up for the interview?
Where are family photos of the 90% of the races that you claim they were at? There should be over a dozen pre race and post race photos with him and the family. Where are they?
YOU have made the most moronic post on this whole thread. Congratulations.
That's amazing that his wife and 'whole family' traveled around the country with him every few weeks to race! I guess they took the kids too! That must get expensive!
Repeating doesnt make it so wrote:
How dense can you be? In theory you have a pont, but his entire family has stated that they dropped Kip off at the start line at 90% of these races and confirmed that he never had access to any vehicle or bike during the races. The vast majority of these races could not be negotiated, particularly Boston, without a car or bike. Fact.
How dense can you be to think that anyone believes any of that?
On course Ollie wrote:
The back roads at Boston that run parallel to the course are faster on a bike than a 6:50 mile pace...I've biked parts of it, you just have to know where you're going.
This is the thing that is so obvious to me.
When I did Boston, my friend was able watch me start, get on his old mountain bike and and see me pass many of the major spots on the course: Wellesley College, Heartbreak Hill, Cleveland Circle, Fenway. We said he did that to watch the elites every year.
It would be INCREDIBLY easy to do what Kip did to this course. I think that anyone who has gone and watched the race from multiple spots would know this.
faster_than_I_look wrote:
NO ONE could have faked what I saw. I could see him near me a good 80-90% of the time in that race and the time was low 17's.
OK. Now please explain the following:
1. Dentist Dr Kip Litton changing shorts during multiple races.
2. Dentist Dr Kip Litton hiding his race number during multiple races, even after repeatedly being accused of cheating.
3. Dentist Dr Kip Litton changing his shoes during multiple races.
4. Dentist Dr Kip Litton, on the way to a 17-minute 5k, crossing the start line 4 minutes after the start.
5. Dentist Dr Kip Litton crossing the start line several minutes after the start in numerous races.
I take it that you and him are very close (hi, Kip!) so you should be able to address all of these. We are waiting and watching.
Repeating doesnt make it so wrote:
On course Ollie wrote:You could take a bike and chain it to a tree, an old bike.
You could have 2 rental cars.
You could have a friend drive from one location to another.
You could have a friend cross the mat with the chip on, wearing no number, and then give it to you to cross the next mat.
There are only so many ways that you can get from one mat to another and cross it.
Help from a friend who would never talk.
An old bike that you ride to checkpoint area, lock it up or lean it by a tree, cross the mat while walking and looking back (head down) or actually running across the mat, get off, go unlock your bike and do it again. Not hard.
Many people bike around and he wouldn't get a second look from anyone, as again he has no number exposed. Look at the picture for proof. He's walking along the course...can you people really not figure out why?
REMEMBER THIS, your number is hidden, so no one is going to yell at you as they believe that you don't have a chip because no number exposed, hence you aren't activating anything. Think about it.
The back roads at Boston that run parallel to the course are faster on a bike than a 6:50 mile pace...I've biked parts of it, you just have to know where you're going.
Oscar WAS right from the beginning, but too many people want to know exactly how he did it, as in which method. Sorry, as for me, I know it's one of the above and that's enough to satisfy me.
How dense can you be? In theory you have a pont, but his entire family has stated that they dropped Kip off at the start line at 90% of these races and confirmed that he never had access to any vehicle or bike during the races. The vast majority of these races could not be negotiated, particularly Boston, without a car or bike. Fact.
Kip's wife has said that the picture some have referred to with Kip "walking" was not that at all. She verified that he was slowing to remove his run pants and hand them to her. Fact.
Come on people. If you want to be taken seriously then you need to use facts that can be verified or at least make accusations that can't be so easily disproved with known facts.
So when photographer Jim Rhodes snapped photographs at 30K mark during the Boston Marathon, licensed dentist dr Kip Litton aKA dip Shitton just happened to be handing off his pants to his wife?
Hahahahahahahahhhahahahahaahaha
OMG
Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Other question to Kip and friends:
Why did dentist Dr Kip Litton of Davison, Michigan, create three fake race websites with false results for him?
Did SOMEONE ELSE create these websites, fill them with results by names like John Doe, place a time for Kip Litton in the results and use these times to enter Kip in other races?
Please explain.
This is a big part of the cheating pattern of dentist Dr Kip Litton of Davison, Michigan, and should get more attention (as well as the on-course cheating itself).
Which is exactly why I said it. I've biked it several times. Easy.
His wife and kids at the race, blah, blah, blah, that's just a troll being an a**hole.
Kip's wife has never come on here and claimed anything such thing, nor has Kip in the article, nor have any of his friends to this day. If it were true, they'd be dying to be interviewed to clear him, but they haven't and they won't because they weren't there. These acts were done alone, without witnesses. Loose lips sink ships.
Totally made up.
If race directors dq'ed you for a race, you'd be pissed! Not Kip.
This is still the #1 result in Google for the term "Dentist Kip Litton":
We can do better that that. Keep spreading the word! Post a link wherever you can to the New Yorker article or the only one and only one thread here on letsrun.
We have to keep up the good work until his business website isn't even on the first page of google results.
Dennis Reynolds wrote:
ghost of jake powell wrote:This is still the #1 result in Google for the term "Dentist Kip Litton":
http://drkiplitton.comWe can do better that that. Keep spreading the word! Post a link wherever you can to the New Yorker article or the only one and only one thread here on letsrun.
We have to keep up the good work until his business website isn't even on the first page of google results.
"Dr. Litton is married and has three school aged children who enjoy sports. He is an avid biker and enjoys helping raise funds in support of a cure for Cystic Fibrosis."
No mention of Dentist Kip Litton loving running!
Yeah. Check out
http://www.worldrecordrun.comNo mention that he's a runner anymore
You are correct
This guy is a tool. He should be arrested and thrown in jail for larceny
Wasn't the point of one thread is to not have multiple threads of the same story...so now I have to spend twice as much time finding out there is nothing new to report.
ghost of jake powell wrote:
This is still the #1 result in Google for the term "Dentist Kip Litton":
http://drkiplitton.comWe can do better that that. Keep spreading the word! Post a link wherever you can to the New Yorker article or the only one and only one thread here on letsrun.
We have to keep up the good work until his business website isn't even on the first page of google results.
Holy cow!! There really are some sick sick disturbed people here. Its difficult to believe that LetsRun would promote this. It speaks volumes.