Okay bud. You're the one making wild and unsupported claims without any sort of data backing it up. I've posted links supporting mine in the earlier pages of this thread.
Why is any of this discussion still dominating the news? We're seeing thousands and thousands of deranged people that are blinded by trump hate posting constantly to defend the use of a product that has the potential to be extremely dangerous when abused - and the dosage doesn't need to be all that significant to cause severe damage.
I'm seeing countless videos of pregnant mothers who have zero medical need to be taking Tylenol recording themselves ingesting the medication as some sort of protest to trump. it's wild! absolute insanity. If trump said tomorrow that trying to stand in front of a train and stopping it only with your unprotected body could cause autism, i would bet a lot of money we would see some of these same deranged individuals recording their bodies getting vaporized in protest.
Trump says a lot of stupid stuff that is either unfounded or a large stretch in evidence. ignore it and move on with your life. aren't you tired of being filled with rage every day for the past 10 years of his political existence?
In fairness, he did have a bunch of random tweets to support his wild claims.
Twitter doctors. Gotta love ‘em.
The only “expert” who thinks Tylenol is a serious risk is paid $150k a year to think that.
The highest quality studies all found no effect of Tylenol on autism diagnoses.
You guys have no support, but you’re still intensely focused on making sure pregnant women do not treat their fevers, causing a host of fetal issues.
RFK would be proud
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The best study to date is the Swedish study of 2.5 million children over a 30 year time period. That study found initially that there did appear to be an increased risk of ADHD, Autism, etc. when people used Tylenol during pregnancy. But when the study took into account siblings who also had ADHD, Autism, etc., they found that there was no risk. ADHD, Autism, etc. have been shown to have a genetic component.
The recent Harvard study was a meta analysis and the researcher had to provide the following disclosure:
"Baccarelli noted in the “competing interests” section of the research paper that he has served as an expert witness for plaintiffs in a case involving potential links between acetaminophen use during pregnancy and neurodevelopmental disorders."
Ding. Ding. Ding. RFK, Jr. got this from his plaintiff's lawyer buddies. And despite getting paid $150k to be an expert witness, the court threw out the study fining that its shifting conclusions were unreliable.
But if RFK, Jr. gets the FDA to issue an advisory, now the plaintiff's lawyers will have something to through at the court as the big multi-district litigation case for Tylenol is on appeal.
And this may be one of the biggest and strangest horseshoes of the Trump era or any era in US political history. It used to be that whenever you sat around with a bunch of conservatives it only took about five minutes before someone started arguing that plaintiff's lawyers and runaway juries are destroying our country. Just about every Republican controlled state legislature passed tort reform in the early 2000s that significantly impaired the ability of plaintiff's lawyers to win big verdicts. On pharmaceutical case, a lot of jurisdictions created a presumption that a drug was safe if it had FDA approval, creating a burden on the plaintiffs that was all but impossible.
Today, RFK. Jr., a plaintiff's lawyer, is in charge of the FDA and is using it to advance big pharmaceutical litigation. If you walked into an RNC meeting 15 yeas ago and told them that the HHS secretary was going to be a plaintiff's lawyer, they would have sent you to Guantanamo. But here we are.
A compilation of news reports on this association going back over a decade. That was just news back then. Now, because of TDS, its "fraudulent" and controversial and its gonna kill people. BS.
Guzzling Tylenol is harmful for anybody. It’s pretty gross that you’re fantasizing about pregnant women harming themselves because you’re so caught up in the politics here.
Im in the side of gold standard evidence based science. You appear to be on the side of hoping pregnant women hurt themselves. And then making light of it. How charming.
Its only a fantasy to a psycho TDS sufferer and you're patient zero. Its a reality. Its already happening. You're rejecting science because of politics. You're the one responsible for women hurting themselves. FFS, you complete a-hole, your side is the one with the people saying they're doing it because of politics. You own this. Its all your fault. Its disgusting.
A compilation of news reports on this association going back over a decade. That was just news back then. Now, because of TDS, its "fraudulent" and controversial and its gonna kill people. BS.
This entire issue is political/ideological.
Yes. Low quality studies suggested a link and supported doing more research.
Now we have more recent, higher quality studies that show no link.
this is how science is done. But there are always some ideologues who refuse to update their opinion. Like those who still think IVM works for Covid.
Now those ideologues are trying to weaponize their ignorance to harm babies, which is why I feel the need to speak out.
(their are also some frauds who have built their career around a single opinion and now make a living backing it — see: Baccarelli)
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Me: “there’s no good data showing Tylenol is unsafe. It should continue to be used as an important medication to control fever and maternal stress, both high risk to the developing baby. Of course, this should be done in consultation with a doctor as has been the recommendation (and on the label) for decades”
Them: “stop politicizing. Women should just tough out fevers and pain. The baby can handle it”
You: lying and politicizing research which has been going on for more than a decade. The end.
Guzzling Tylenol is harmful for anybody. It’s pretty gross that you’re fantasizing about pregnant women harming themselves because you’re so caught up in the politics here.
Im in the side of gold standard evidence based science. You appear to be on the side of hoping pregnant women hurt themselves. And then making light of it. How charming.
Its only a fantasy to a psycho TDS sufferer and you're patient zero. Its a reality. Its already happening. You're rejecting science because of politics. You're the one responsible for women hurting themselves. FFS, you complete a-hole, your side is the one with the people saying they're doing it because of politics. You own this. Its all your fault. Its disgusting.
you’ve given no evidence beyond your fantasies. It’s borderline sexual it seems, your imagination of women harming their own babies. The repetition, the strong emotion. I see this a lot with antivaxx types
Meanwhile, those of us over here just support gold standard science. The largest studies show no effect. The experts without massive COIs say it’s safe.
One side wants women to cook their babies and live a life of fear. The other understands what “do no harm” and “gold standard” means.
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The evidence for tylenol use during pregnancy causing autism is non-existent, there is a correlation that disappears when you control for familial effect.
The evidence is ubiquitous and its been around for decades. Your science denial is entirely based on politics.
The evidence for tylenol use during pregnancy causing autism is non-existent, there is a correlation that disappears when you control for familial effect.
The evidence is ubiquitous and its been around for decades. Your science denial is entirely based on politics.
Low quality evidence has been superseded by gold standard studies.
The only people who still agree with you are literally paid to do so.
Imagine if the most prominent expert on my side of an issue was paid $150k a year by Big Pharma. You’d rightfully go nuts.
That’s all you’ve got. A paid shill and some old, low quality studies.
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Social media videos have no bearing on this discussion. Facts not feelings bro :)
Your fearmongering is even stupider now
This coming from the guy using an anonymous X/Twitter profile on this discussion. It is a fact that pregnant women are downing Tylenol without medical indication because of their political hatred. Its already happening. As I said, you and Harambidiot are too late.
Social media videos have no bearing on this discussion. Facts not feelings bro :)
Your fearmongering is even stupider now
This coming from the guy using an anonymous X/Twitter profile on this discussion. It is a fact that pregnant women are downing Tylenol without medical indication because of their political hatred. Its already happening. As I said, you and Harambidiot are too late.
Not a single ounce of proof beyond your own increasingly vivid fantasies. This is beginning to look like a “goon session” to use modern parlance.
Low quality evidence has been superseded by gold standard studies.
The only people who still agree with you are literally paid to do so.
Imagine if the most prominent expert on my side of an issue was paid $150k a year by Big Pharma. You’d rightfully go nuts.
That’s all you’ve got. A paid shill and some old, low quality studies.
False. False. You're in imaginationland because reality hurts your brain too much. Yet again, not a single thing you just said is true or connected with reality.
Low quality evidence has been superseded by gold standard studies.
The only people who still agree with you are literally paid to do so.
Imagine if the most prominent expert on my side of an issue was paid $150k a year by Big Pharma. You’d rightfully go nuts.
That’s all you’ve got. A paid shill and some old, low quality studies.
False. False. You're in imaginationland because reality hurts your brain too much. Yet again, not a single thing you just said is true or connected with reality.
Not an ounce of evidence. The recent sibling matched studies have the largest sample sizes and the most rigorous diagnostic criteria. And they found no effect.
The studies that showed an effect had poorer design, smaller sample sizes, and less reliable reporting criteria.
This is how science works. The best studies win.
But hey, you’ve got a guy who gets paid $150k a year to agree with you. Now that’s “gold standard!”