It is the common trope of racist-semites to claim they are from the middle east. The middle east was never "white" in until the last 100 years. . . . there is no white Jesus, and there were no white jews in the area until the last 100 years.
Gtfo. Cling to your narrative, science denier.
A diaspora (/daɪˈæspərə/ dy-ASP-ər-ə) is a population that is scattered across regions which are separate from its geographic place of origin.
The Ashkenazi diaspora was establish in the Middle Ages. How did their genetics turn from Middle Eastern to almost European?
Can I go to any one of them and join a group to take back what once belonged to my ancient ancestors? That is your "argument." Native Americans can therefore shove the white European invaders into an ever shrinking enclave.
Gaza is 140 square miles for 2 million people. Assuming that 150 million "Americans" identify as European origin, those 150 million could easily be crammed into a 25,000 square mile area. West Virginia is the closest U.S. state to that area. Enam
Fun fact: just two months ago, the government of Azerbaijan invaded and forcibly displaced ~100k Armenians under threat of genocide.
Azerbaijan is 97% democratic Muslim, and 3% Armenian. Armenia funded a war a few years ago to try to crave that area out of Azerbaijan and absorb it into Armenia.
Fun fact: just two months ago, the government of Azerbaijan invaded and forcibly displaced ~100k Armenians under threat of genocide. Seems pretty similar to the Palestine situation, no? Will there be protests in the streets?
Oh, that’s right: genocide doesn’t count when the perpetrators are Muslims. Which explains why no one has protested the deaths of thousands of Palestinians in Syria in the past 10 years (alongside 600k other civilians). Or the 300k civilians killed in Yemen. Nothing to see here. Look at those evil Jews fighting a self-proclaimed terrorist state!
R U really unaware that the wars in Syria and Yemen are neocons wars?
A diaspora (/daɪˈæspərə/ dy-ASP-ər-ə) is a population that is scattered across regions which are separate from its geographic place of origin.
The Ashkenazi diaspora was establish in the Middle Ages. How did their genetics turn from Middle Eastern to almost European?
Can I go to any one of them and join a group to take back what once belonged to my ancient ancestors? That is your "argument." Native Americans can therefore shove the white European invaders into an ever shrinking enclave.
Gaza is 140 square miles for 2 million people. Assuming that 150 million "Americans" identify as European origin, those 150 million could easily be crammed into a 25,000 square mile area. West Virginia is the closest U.S. state to that area. Enam
Studies on Ashkenazi genetics show that they're primarily Middle Eastern, with varying degrees of admixture from (mostly Southern) Europeans, depending on the study.
Fun fact: just two months ago, the government of Azerbaijan invaded and forcibly displaced ~100k Armenians under threat of genocide. Seems pretty similar to the Palestine situation, no? Will there be protests in the streets?
Oh, that’s right: genocide doesn’t count when the perpetrators are Muslims. Which explains why no one has protested the deaths of thousands of Palestinians in Syria in the past 10 years (alongside 600k other civilians). Or the 300k civilians killed in Yemen. Nothing to see here. Look at those evil Jews fighting a self-proclaimed terrorist state!
Great now compare our government's support of Azerbaijan and Syria versus its support of Israel.
What do you call someone who ignores their own atrocities and calls attention to the crimes of others?
Fun fact: just two months ago, the government of Azerbaijan invaded and forcibly displaced ~100k Armenians under threat of genocide. Seems pretty similar to the Palestine situation, no? Will there be protests in the streets?
Oh, that’s right: genocide doesn’t count when the perpetrators are Muslims. Which explains why no one has protested the deaths of thousands of Palestinians in Syria in the past 10 years (alongside 600k other civilians). Or the 300k civilians killed in Yemen. Nothing to see here. Look at those evil Jews fighting a self-proclaimed terrorist state!
Great now compare our government's support of Azerbaijan and Syria versus its support of Israel.
What do you call someone who ignores their own atrocities and calls attention to the crimes of others?
Hamas invades Israel and kills women and children with small arms and burns babies alive in their cribs and trash like you call it a military action.
Israel responds by bombing Hamas military installations and the civilians Hamas intentionally puts in harms way are killed collaterally and you call it an "atrocity".
Wars, invasions, colonization, revolutions and mass migrations have displaced people all over the world. As time goes by, claims to dispossessed land grow stale and a timeless right to undo the wrongs of the past make for a state of perpetual conflict for the future. Right or wrong, the Israelis took Palestinian land during the Nakba. But that was in 1948 and anyone who was 18 or older would be at least 93 years old right now. This is about the same time frame as the Cuban revolution in which Castro collectivized land held by private property owners in Cuba. So, the vast majority of Palestinians claiming a right of return as well as Cubans would have never set foot on the land that they seek to reclaim.
Worse still is the notion of property rights being dependent on ancestral heritage. If the Jews have a right to Israel based on their ancestral heritage, than everyone living in Missouri, Kentucky, Kansas, etc. needs to be prepared to give up their homes to members of the Osage nation. In Israel and Palestinian territories, right to land based on ancestral heritage is a concept that will just mean war after war after war because both sides claim everything from the river to the sea.
There is no world court that will adjudicate whether Israel belongs to the Jews or Palestinians or both or neither based on arguments of heritage and conflicts that took place generations ago. The only way these conflicting claims will be resolved is through violence or diplomacy. If people are willing to give up on these arguments about who has the "right" to land in Israel and instead work towards finding a fair distribution of land with mutual respect for each other's rights, then the conflict in Israel would be over in a week. But as long as people are making claims about biblical times and producing deeds belonging to their great great grand parents, there will be a perpetual state of war in Israel.
Wars, invasions, colonization, revolutions and mass migrations have displaced people all over the world. As time goes by, claims to dispossessed land grow stale and a timeless right to undo the wrongs of the past make for a state of perpetual conflict for the future. Right or wrong, the Israelis took Palestinian land during the Nakba. But that was in 1948 and anyone who was 18 or older would be at least 93 years old right now. This is about the same time frame as the Cuban revolution in which Castro collectivized land held by private property owners in Cuba. So, the vast majority of Palestinians claiming a right of return as well as Cubans would have never set foot on the land that they seek to reclaim.
Worse still is the notion of property rights being dependent on ancestral heritage. If the Jews have a right to Israel based on their ancestral heritage, than everyone living in Missouri, Kentucky, Kansas, etc. needs to be prepared to give up their homes to members of the Osage nation. In Israel and Palestinian territories, right to land based on ancestral heritage is a concept that will just mean war after war after war because both sides claim everything from the river to the sea.
There is no world court that will adjudicate whether Israel belongs to the Jews or Palestinians or both or neither based on arguments of heritage and conflicts that took place generations ago. The only way these conflicting claims will be resolved is through violence or diplomacy. If people are willing to give up on these arguments about who has the "right" to land in Israel and instead work towards finding a fair distribution of land with mutual respect for each other's rights, then the conflict in Israel would be over in a week. But as long as people are making claims about biblical times and producing deeds belonging to their great great grand parents, there will be a perpetual state of war in Israel.
Did you get that off Hamas's website?
Do you have any idea why Israelis "took Palestinian land during the Nakba"??
Nakba day is May 15th. Israel declared independence over the land they already had that Britain and the UN promised them multiple times on May 14th. Almost the entire Arab world invaded on May 15th to exterminate the Jews and they LOST the war.
If you don't want to lose land to your neighbor don't try to kill him and his entire family and fail.
Jews aren't claiming ancient property rights Jews have been living in the area continuously for 3000 years.
Wars, invasions, colonization, revolutions and mass migrations have displaced people all over the world. As time goes by, claims to dispossessed land grow stale and a timeless right to undo the wrongs of the past make for a state of perpetual conflict for the future. Right or wrong, the Israelis took Palestinian land during the Nakba. But that was in 1948 and anyone who was 18 or older would be at least 93 years old right now. This is about the same time frame as the Cuban revolution in which Castro collectivized land held by private property owners in Cuba. So, the vast majority of Palestinians claiming a right of return as well as Cubans would have never set foot on the land that they seek to reclaim.
Worse still is the notion of property rights being dependent on ancestral heritage. If the Jews have a right to Israel based on their ancestral heritage, than everyone living in Missouri, Kentucky, Kansas, etc. needs to be prepared to give up their homes to members of the Osage nation. In Israel and Palestinian territories, right to land based on ancestral heritage is a concept that will just mean war after war after war because both sides claim everything from the river to the sea.
There is no world court that will adjudicate whether Israel belongs to the Jews or Palestinians or both or neither based on arguments of heritage and conflicts that took place generations ago. The only way these conflicting claims will be resolved is through violence or diplomacy. If people are willing to give up on these arguments about who has the "right" to land in Israel and instead work towards finding a fair distribution of land with mutual respect for each other's rights, then the conflict in Israel would be over in a week. But as long as people are making claims about biblical times and producing deeds belonging to their great great grand parents, there will be a perpetual state of war in Israel.
Jews aren't claiming ancient property rights Jews have been living in the area continuously for 3000 years.
So the fact that a small number of Arabs in the ME practiced Judaism means the Euro Jews had the right to violently expel 700,000 + non Jews from their land and homes in Palestine in 1948 and continue to do so for the next 75 years?
The Call of Abram 1 The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you. 2 “I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.[a] 3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”[b] 4 So Abram went, as the Lord had told him; and Lot went with him. Abram was seventy-five years old when he set out from Harran. 5 He took his wife Sarai, his nephew Lot, all the possessions they had accumulated and the people they had acquired in Harran, and they set out for the land of Canaan, and they arrived there. 6 Abram traveled through the land as far as the site of the great tree of Moreh at Shechem. At that time the Canaanites were in the land.
Studies on Ashkenazi genetics show that they're primarily Middle Eastern, with varying degrees of admixture from (mostly Southern) Europeans, depending on the study.
Nope. Ashkenazi itself means Jews from Germania (lands in the area of Germany). Maybe you can explain where the Middle Eastern genome is in non-Jewish Germans.
The Holocaust is quite relevant when discussing Israel.
The second edition of the Holocaust is the stated goal of the palestinians.
That's just a blatant lie.
"From the river to the sea" has a specific meaning.
Hamas's charter explicitly states their goal. The PLO has refused to allow elections on the West Bank for almost 20 years now because they know Hamas would win.
Am I understanding this correctly? Israel exists because people from all over the world simply moved to a place that was already inhabited and said "this land is ours now"?
Shocking that this created conflict!
WOW . . are you in middle school and haven't made it to history classes yet ?
Palestine was originally the land of the Canaanites and then conquered by Egyptians, then the Hittites, the Assyrians, Amorites, Israelites, Judeans, Babylonians, Archaemenids, Romans, Byzantines, until the Arab Muslims invaded in the 600s.
The Arab Muslims established a series of caliphates that kept collapsing due to internal instabilities. European crusaders seized control for parts of the 1000s through 1200s. The Mamluks ruled from 1200s to end of 1400s, including a very brief several months under the Mongol empire. In early 1500s the Ottomans invaded and ruled until 1800, when French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte took over for just a year. Mamluks ruled again, then Egyptians again, Ottomans again, and finally WW1 ended Ottoman Empire forever and set a period of British rule.
After WW2, British exited and the UN divided Palestine into Arab and Jewish states. They have been at bitter war with each other ever since.
Why can't they share/why do they care so much about a fvckng desert? Serious question
Jews aren't claiming ancient property rights Jews have been living in the area continuously for 3000 years.
So the fact that a small number of Arabs in the ME practiced Judaism means the Euro Jews had the right to violently expel 700,000 + non Jews from their land and homes in Palestine in 1948 and continue to do so for the next 75 years?
Why?
The Holocaust?
The "Euro Jews" started buying land in the area in the 1890s and continued to do so right up until the war started.
The arabs happily sold them the land because it was useless desert and they liked money.
Then after the arabs found out the Brits had promised the Jews their own state the arabs turned to violence.
The Jews didn't "expel" anyone from their land. The Arab league told the people to leave and go back once all the Jews were dead after the war. They lost the war and Israel didn't welcome the people who sided with the people trying to exterminate them. Shocker!
I know you think the Holocaust never happened and that even if it did the Jews deserved it.
But to Jews in 1948 the Holocaust was very much relevant particularly when your people have been refused entry by every country on the planet and the moment you make a homeland for yourself the entire region rises up to exterminate you again.
