I find it shocking that she would not search to see if this drug were banned. And why would she go to some "online pharmacist" instead of her regular doctor, who would surely know she is in the USADA testing pool and advise against using it. I really want to believe that she is being honest but the whole thing is just so strange.
The only reason for her to have used an "online pharmacist" instead of her regular doctor is because you can get "online pharmacists" to say whatever you want and give whatever you want as long as you pay the right price. Same reason why so many American athletes use "online doctors" to tell them they have asthma or ADHD when they don't so they can get PEDs and high on narcotics. What do you think Doc Brown is doing these days when he can practice medicine in person?
I'm not so sure about this. It is understandable that she would want to go to a dermatologist instead of her general practitioner for a skin condition (although I'm sure a GP could have also seen her for acne related problems). Wait times can be long to see a new dermatologist, assuming she didn't already have one, so seeing an online dermatologist is not that crazy. What is crazy to me is that someone who has been running professionally for years, says she was tested 30 times in the last 2 years, and claims to have researched the potential performance benefits of the drug before taking it, wouldn't have also looked to see if it were banned.
Longtime Allie supporter here. I have to admit this whole thing has me confused. I have so many questions...how is it possible for someone as intelligent as Allie to not know spironolactone was banned, especially because she seems to be so hyperaware of what she's putting in her body? I find it shocking that she would not search to see if this drug were banned. And why would she go to some "online pharmacist" instead of her regular doctor, who would surely know she is in the USADA testing pool and advise against using it. I really want to believe that she is being honest but the whole thing is just so strange.
Also, why did she not disclose this to her fans when her ban was initially instated instead of avoiding answering questions this summer as to why she was in Europe but not racing at Dolomyths and Sierre Zinal as planned. Surely USADA would not require that she not discuss it, so it had to be a personal choice or upon the advice of her sponsor. Honestly, I wouldn't care if she chose to keep it quiet because that is her right but she is always talking about authenticity and transparency, and has positioned herself as a public figure. So not disclosing it feels deceptive to those fans who support her and who also support her YouTube channel. I'd be interested to know her reasoning behind waiting to address it until it was already announced by USADA and Flotrack.
I would also be curious to hear what her sponsor Nnormal has to say about this. They would have been completely justified in dropping her when they found out but have clearly continued to support her. I'd also like to hear what other prominent figures and athletes in the running community have to say - as far as I know, all have remained silent. I know she is well liked.
Just because you like someone doesn't make it okay that they failed a drug test. That said, she has nearly severed the entire suspension, a suspension which prevented her from racing Sierre Zinal, the most prestigious race on her calendar this year.
She can move on with her career now. The Western States ban is irrelevant. There is no way she is ever going to race 100 miles.
She had to have known or was acting so recklessly towards her future she was hoping to throw it away.
Kilian, founder of Nnormal and the Pro Trail Runners Association, seems to be pushing hard for clean sport in trail racing. They have a specific working group trying to get races like Sierre Zinal to ban people who have doped.
Allie has defied that. Even if western states was never her aim the chances of other big races diminished from this zit cream.
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In response to a few comments here saying "if everyone who's popped is guilty why are we giving Allie a pass"
--Personally, I'm not giving her a "pass". What she did (if it is to be believed) was careless and on her. It was a prescription. It is on her to know what's in it. I also think if she wanted to be honest, she could have done her little YouTube video when the ban was handed down, not when it was over. I also very much think masking agents should be on the banned list.
--I'm not as miffed about this one because she hasn't been in competition in a while and clearly had health struggles. Unlike Shelby who soared to great heights before getting caught she doesn't fit the profile of someone trying to cheat, and gain exponentially from that cheating. That's why I'm more or less inclined to believe that it was from acne medication.
--Which brings me to her story. Unlike Shelby's ridiculous burrito tale, Allie's story literally checks out. The drugs are in the medication. She has a likely story for why she needed the medication. She was honest about that. She knew where it came from and she disclosed. Again, careless on her part, and I guess it could be a lie but between a very believable story, and the fact that she hasn't been competitive, I don't think (unlike Shelby) she was cheating.
--Finally, if in her video at any time she blamed USADA and the "process" and the "system" for being unfair I would have been angry. She's an adult who knows the rules and it's on her. No more blaming the system when things go sour. But she didn't do those things. She took responsibility.
So again, she's no hero here. But I am just not going to believe she cheated maliciously because there isn't any evidence strong enough for me.
I’m inclined to believe her story, but if I’m playing devil’s advocate, she would have competed in one of the most prestigious trail races in the world this summer were it not for this suspension, right? So I don’t think “not competing” should lead one to believe this was an honest mistake because she’s only not competing because of this failed test.
I wonder how many athletes at Sierra Zinal are subjected to OOC testing, but that’s for a different thread and doesn’t negate Allie’s positive test.
My best guess: Allie turned 26 at the end of 2022 and may have gone uninsured for some time this year, if she was still on her parents' insurance before. Online dermatology platforms are often much less expensive than going to a doctor's office without insurance.
I’m inclined to believe her story, but if I’m playing devil’s advocate, she would have competed in one of the most prestigious trail races in the world this summer were it not for this suspension, right? So I don’t think “not competing” should lead one to believe this was an honest mistake because she’s only not competing because of this failed test.
Yes, because it's allowable under the TUE definitions. Other people are taking this drug for the same valid reason and are competing. They just did their paperwork properly.
This is not hard to understand. There are a lot of pro athletes taking things that are banned under a therapeutic use exemption.
You are right. It is not hard to understand. In theory, anything is allowed with a TUE, but they aren’t always granted and the process by which they are granted/denied is opaque and often hard to understand.
I’m not sure what that has to do with what you quoted… I was pointing out the circular logic in saying “there’s nothing nefarious about this positive test because she isn’t even competing” but she isn’t competing because of the positive test. Unless I’m missing something, she would have otherwise raced Sierre Zinal, right? She was on the start list but this positive test rendered her ineligible per their new doping policy this year.
You are right. It is not hard to understand. In theory, anything is allowed with a TUE, but they aren’t always granted and the process by which they are granted/denied is opaque and often hard to understand.
I’m not sure what that has to do with what you quoted… I was pointing out the circular logic in saying “there’s nothing nefarious about this positive test because she isn’t even competing” but she isn’t competing because of the positive test. Unless I’m missing something, she would have otherwise raced Sierre Zinal, right? She was on the start list but this positive test rendered her ineligible per their new doping policy this year.
I think you're correct, although, I'd have to look at her youtube but I think she claimed an injury. Maybe she claimed that after the positive test to make an excuse or maybe she was injured. Either way, at some point she was going to run Sierre Zinal and the suspension made it so there wasn't a chance that could happen (injured or healthy).
I tried to get more clarification but she immediately deleted the comment. She's likely doing the same for all comments not on her side. Wow. Talk about creating your narrative.
The video looked like she paused and edited it multiple times and what she said seemed pretty rehearsed. Cheating in trail running seems dumb but as Sage has said it happens a lot and most get away with it. She might be feeling the pressure to perform with her new sponsor and focus on trails. Also Spencer is a total freeloader with no job prospects or hope of getting sponsored again so maybe she feels compelled to produce. I don't know for sure.
I tried to get more clarification but she immediately deleted the comment. She's likely doing the same for all comments not on her side. Wow. Talk about creating your narrative.
People will tell you this just shows how transparent she is
All those sympathizing for Allie, giving her the benefit of the doubt because she hasnt ran fast times or been competing hard... are you friggin serious? So someone is innocent just because they didnt get the results PEDs should theoretically give?
I tried to get more clarification but she immediately deleted the comment. She's likely doing the same for all comments not on her side. Wow. Talk about creating your narrative.
Interesting I did wonder why every single comment on her video is supportive.
That said, even the worst of the grey area stuff with TUEs (which Spencer hilariously decried right after his SO failed a drug test because she didn't get a TUE--the people he was criticizing in that video were being responsible and doing what Allie now says she should've done. The irony on that one is off the charts)
All those sympathizing for Allie, giving her the benefit of the doubt because she hasnt ran fast times or been competing hard... are you friggin serious? So someone is innocent just because they didnt get the results PEDs should theoretically give?
It's more that this isn't a PED. The response would be different if we were talking about Nandrolone. Similarly, I don't think many of us cared when Sha'Carri was busted for pot.
All those sympathizing for Allie, giving her the benefit of the doubt because she hasnt ran fast times or been competing hard... are you friggin serious? So someone is innocent just because they didnt get the results PEDs should theoretically give?
It's more that this isn't a PED. The response would be different if we were talking about Nandrolone. Similarly, I don't think many of us cared when Sha'Carri was busted for pot.
Yeah, I suppose if one were really skeptical, she could have been taking something like nandrolone and then used the acne medication as a masking agent to flush it out of her system quicker. However, given that the masking agent was also a banned substance, it seems pretty foolish. Not out of the realm of possibility for sure, but unlikely to me.