He DOES drive out of his way. I just did a Tesla supercharger search for Houston (which is the 2nd largest city size-wize in America). They are all in the western part of Houston and each is about 15 miles away from the other. And the traffic in Houston is terrible. If you are fortunate enough to live semi-close to a supercharger but that one is busy it might take you 50 minutes OUT OF YOUR WAY to get to another. If you live in the south, east or north Houston you are already screwed. There is no supercharger close to you. Fat Hurts is selling us a bill of goods.
Superchargers are located according to where they are actually needed. Tesla uses data from its entire fleet to decide where to put new Supercharger stations. Tesla knows better than you where they need to be and they have the data to prove it.
The vast majority of Tesla owners charge at home and would never need to drive around Houston looking for a supercharger. Most of the stations are there to facilitate road trips. That's why in Houston, they are located near interstates and other major roadways.
He DOES drive out of his way. I just did a Tesla supercharger search for Houston (which is the 2nd largest city size-wize in America). They are all in the western part of Houston and each is about 15 miles away from the other. And the traffic in Houston is terrible. If you are fortunate enough to live semi-close to a supercharger but that one is busy it might take you 50 minutes OUT OF YOUR WAY to get to another. If you live in the south, east or north Houston you are already screwed. There is no supercharger close to you. Fat Hurts is selling us a bill of goods.
And I love how Fat Hurts paints it as there is a Tesla supercharging station at every exit. Again, Houston is like 1600 square miles and there are only like 3 supercharger stations. It might take you half a day to get to one. You don't just "take the next exit." It is an all day affair charging your car.
I never said nor implied that there is a supercharger at every exit.
There are 12 supercharger locations in the Houston metro area. Not 3.
He DOES drive out of his way. I just did a Tesla supercharger search for Houston (which is the 2nd largest city size-wize in America). They are all in the western part of Houston and each is about 15 miles away from the other. And the traffic in Houston is terrible. If you are fortunate enough to live semi-close to a supercharger but that one is busy it might take you 50 minutes OUT OF YOUR WAY to get to another. If you live in the south, east or north Houston you are already screwed. There is no supercharger close to you. Fat Hurts is selling us a bill of goods.
And as I said, Tesla will plan your stops for your road trip such that you are very unlikely to hit a location where all the stalls are full.
The way it works is that Tesla plans your route, including the charging stops. Then it continually checks your future stops as you move along down the highway. For the most part, it knows how many cars will be stopped when you arrive, even if it's an hour or more away. It knows who is planning to stop where and how long each will need to charge.
But if conditions change, it will adjust your stops. I've been more than an hour from my charging stop and the system will tell me I'm better off charging a bit sooner or later than previously planned. So you don't need a Supercharger at every exit. You just need them spaced out enough that your charging stops can be adjusted.
The worst that can happen is that you do arrive and all the stalls are full. This only happened to me once and I was able to get an open stall in less than 5 minutes.
He DOES drive out of his way. I just did a Tesla supercharger search for Houston (which is the 2nd largest city size-wize in America). They are all in the western part of Houston and each is about 15 miles away from the other. And the traffic in Houston is terrible. If you are fortunate enough to live semi-close to a supercharger but that one is busy it might take you 50 minutes OUT OF YOUR WAY to get to another. If you live in the south, east or north Houston you are already screwed. There is no supercharger close to you. Fat Hurts is selling us a bill of goods.
And as I said, Tesla will plan your stops for your road trip such that you are very unlikely to hit a location where all the stalls are full.
The way it works is that Tesla plans your route, including the charging stops. Then it continually checks your future stops as you move along down the highway. For the most part, it knows how many cars will be stopped when you arrive, even if it's an hour or more away. It knows who is planning to stop where and how long each will need to charge.
But if conditions change, it will adjust your stops. I've been more than an hour from my charging stop and the system will tell me I'm better off charging a bit sooner or later than previously planned. So you don't need a Supercharger at every exit. You just need them spaced out enough that your charging stops can be adjusted.
The worst that can happen is that you do arrive and all the stalls are full. This only happened to me once and I was able to get an open stall in less than 5 minutes.
Fat Hurts - -answer me this. You say that 90% of cars sold in 2030 will have a plug. 33% of Americans live in apartments. where there are no charging stations. How can you get to 90% when 33% of Americans cant' even get an EV?
there are 30 supercharger stations all over Texas and you contend thata Houston has 12.
I don't know where you are getting your data, but it looks like there are around 75 Supercharger locations in Texas. And they are adding more very quickly. Maybe you should take the time to count them:
there are 30 supercharger stations all over Texas and you contend thata Houston has 12.
I don't know where you are getting your data, but it looks like there are around 75 Supercharger locations in Texas. And they are adding more very quickly. Maybe you should take the time to count them:
And as I said, Tesla will plan your stops for your road trip such that you are very unlikely to hit a location where all the stalls are full.
The way it works is that Tesla plans your route, including the charging stops. Then it continually checks your future stops as you move along down the highway. For the most part, it knows how many cars will be stopped when you arrive, even if it's an hour or more away. It knows who is planning to stop where and how long each will need to charge.
But if conditions change, it will adjust your stops. I've been more than an hour from my charging stop and the system will tell me I'm better off charging a bit sooner or later than previously planned. So you don't need a Supercharger at every exit. You just need them spaced out enough that your charging stops can be adjusted.
The worst that can happen is that you do arrive and all the stalls are full. This only happened to me once and I was able to get an open stall in less than 5 minutes.
Fat Hurts - -answer me this. You say that 90% of cars sold in 2030 will have a plug. 33% of Americans live in apartments. where there are no charging stations. How can you get to 90% when 33% of Americans cant' even get an EV?
Many apartment complexes already have EV charging stations. By 2030, most apartment complexes will have them. It's very inexpensive to add EV charging stations and the apartment complex can get quite a bit of extra income from it. Or they can offer it as a free amenity.
I don't know where you are getting your data, but it looks like there are around 75 Supercharger locations in Texas. And they are adding more very quickly. Maybe you should take the time to count them:
Your map is wrong. Look at the map from Tesla I posted earlier.
90% of apartment dwellers are going to have $60,000 to spend on a car? I have lived in some high rises recently - THERE IS NO space for charging stations. NONE. and you want these apartment poor people to pay to charge their car? Are you on drugs?
Your map is wrong. Look at the map from Tesla I posted earlier.
90% of apartment dwellers are going to have $60,000 to spend on a car? I have lived in some high rises recently - THERE IS NO space for charging stations. NONE. and you want these apartment poor people to pay to charge their car? Are you on drugs?
I've probably told you 100 times that nobody needs to spend 60K on an EV.
There are new EVs available today for 25K. There will be new EVs for less than 20K by 2030. And there will be plenty of used ones available for less than that.
Every parking space that is at an apartment today can be wired for charging. No new spaces are needed.
Apartment dwellers will save money by paying for electricity instead of gasoline.
90% of apartment dwellers are going to have $60,000 to spend on a car? I have lived in some high rises recently - THERE IS NO space for charging stations. NONE. and you want these apartment poor people to pay to charge their car? Are you on drugs?
I've probably told you 100 times that nobody needs to spend 60K on an EV.
There are new EVs available today for 25K. There will be new EVs for less than 20K by 2030. And there will be plenty of used ones available for less than that.
Every parking space that is at an apartment today can be wired for charging. No new spaces are needed.
Apartment dwellers will save money by paying for electricity instead of gasoline.
And Tesla makes about a 20K profit on every Tesla you buy. So you are spending 60K for a 40K car. YOu like being taken advantage of by Tesla? Your 60K Tesla is only worth 40K so you are paying Tesla $20K for a crappy car.
I've probably told you 100 times that nobody needs to spend 60K on an EV.
There are new EVs available today for 25K. There will be new EVs for less than 20K by 2030. And there will be plenty of used ones available for less than that.
Every parking space that is at an apartment today can be wired for charging. No new spaces are needed.
Apartment dwellers will save money by paying for electricity instead of gasoline.
And Tesla makes about a 20K profit on every Tesla you buy. So you are spending 60K for a 40K car. YOu like being taken advantage of by Tesla? Your 60K Tesla is only worth 40K so you are paying Tesla $20K for a crappy car.
I can sell my Tesla for more than I paid a year ago. I rather like that arrangement. It's nice to have a car that goes up in value instead of down.
And as a shareholder, I love those profit margins!!
So, let me digest everything. You buy a Tesla that costs $40,000 to make and you pay Tesla $60,000 for that privilidge. Your Tesla is part of a brand that is the second lowest as far as reliability among all car brands. Basically, everyone is saying your car is junk. Out of 29 car brands Tesla is the second worse. So you paid out the kazoo for it, the car is junk, and you are happy with that?
So, let me digest everything. You buy a Tesla that costs $40,000 to make and you pay Tesla $60,000 for that privilidge. Your Tesla is part of a brand that is the second lowest as far as reliability among all car brands. Basically, everyone is saying your car is junk. Out of 29 car brands Tesla is the second worse. So you paid out the kazoo for it, the car is junk, and you are happy with that?
I'm buying a car that is number one in customer satisfaction. Basically, everyone is saying that Tesla is the best car you can own.
And it is.
There is apparently a flaw in Consumer Reports Predicted Reliability Survey. CR's own survey of customer satisfaction puts Tesla on top of all the others. So maybe Consumer Reports reliability methodology is wrong when it comes to EVs.
As further proof that Teslas are very reliable, look at actual warranty payout per unit. Except for Toyota, Tesla is the best here as well.
So, let me digest everything. You buy a Tesla that costs $40,000 to make and you pay Tesla $60,000 for that privilidge. Your Tesla is part of a brand that is the second lowest as far as reliability among all car brands. Basically, everyone is saying your car is junk. Out of 29 car brands Tesla is the second worse. So you paid out the kazoo for it, the car is junk, and you are happy with that?
I'm buying a car that is number one in customer satisfaction. Basically, everyone is saying that Tesla is the best car you can own.
And it is.
There is apparently a flaw in Consumer Reports Predicted Reliability Survey. CR's own survey of customer satisfaction puts Tesla on top of all the others. So maybe Consumer Reports reliability methodology is wrong when it comes to EVs.
As further proof that Teslas are very reliable, look at actual warranty payout per unit. Except for Toyota, Tesla is the best here as well.
Do you really not understand how Tesla selling unreliable, crappy cars AND having high customer satisfaction rate is possible (and actually not out of the norm)? Really?
He DOES drive out of his way. I just did a Tesla supercharger search for Houston (which is the 2nd largest city size-wize in America). They are all in the western part of Houston and each is about 15 miles away from the other. And the traffic in Houston is terrible. If you are fortunate enough to live semi-close to a supercharger but that one is busy it might take you 50 minutes OUT OF YOUR WAY to get to another. If you live in the south, east or north Houston you are already screwed. There is no supercharger close to you. Fat Hurts is selling us a bill of goods.
And as I said, Tesla will plan your stops for your road trip such that you are very unlikely to hit a location where all the stalls are full.
The way it works is that Tesla plans your route, including the charging stops. Then it continually checks your future stops as you move along down the highway. For the most part, it knows how many cars will be stopped when you arrive, even if it's an hour or more away. It knows who is planning to stop where and how long each will need to charge.
But if conditions change, it will adjust your stops. I've been more than an hour from my charging stop and the system will tell me I'm better off charging a bit sooner or later than previously planned. So you don't need a Supercharger at every exit. You just need them spaced out enough that your charging stops can be adjusted.
The worst that can happen is that you do arrive and all the stalls are full. This only happened to me once and I was able to get an open stall in less than 5 minutes.
So Tesla will tell me how many people are waiting to use a charger at every location?
I'm buying a car that is number one in customer satisfaction. Basically, everyone is saying that Tesla is the best car you can own.
And it is.
There is apparently a flaw in Consumer Reports Predicted Reliability Survey. CR's own survey of customer satisfaction puts Tesla on top of all the others. So maybe Consumer Reports reliability methodology is wrong when it comes to EVs.
As further proof that Teslas are very reliable, look at actual warranty payout per unit. Except for Toyota, Tesla is the best here as well.
Do you really not understand how Tesla selling unreliable, crappy cars AND having high customer satisfaction rate is possible (and actually not out of the norm)? Really?
Tesla is the second most reliable brand.
And all that really matters is how satisfied the owner is.
And as I said, Tesla will plan your stops for your road trip such that you are very unlikely to hit a location where all the stalls are full.
The way it works is that Tesla plans your route, including the charging stops. Then it continually checks your future stops as you move along down the highway. For the most part, it knows how many cars will be stopped when you arrive, even if it's an hour or more away. It knows who is planning to stop where and how long each will need to charge.
But if conditions change, it will adjust your stops. I've been more than an hour from my charging stop and the system will tell me I'm better off charging a bit sooner or later than previously planned. So you don't need a Supercharger at every exit. You just need them spaced out enough that your charging stops can be adjusted.
The worst that can happen is that you do arrive and all the stalls are full. This only happened to me once and I was able to get an open stall in less than 5 minutes.
So Tesla will tell me how many people are waiting to use a charger at every location?
You can see on your screen how many stalls are available at any location at any given moment.
You start a road trip by giving it your destination(s). Then Tesla plans your charging stops for you.
For deciding which charging locations are best for your trip, Tesla can use data about who is planning to stop at each location, when they will arrive, and how long they will need to charge. I'm not sure how sophisticated the algorithm is, but I know that Tesla has the data available to optimize everyone's trip. And it does make adjustments to your trip as needed.
