January 6 Hearing

This I agree with. The libs orchestrated voter fraud again, but lost this time even while they cheated. Amazing that they have no boundaries. You and Armweaklivs should get a room

How are all the Republicans who signed on to be fake electors feel now that about Eastman admitted it was illegal in secret emails?

Eastman knew he was asking them to do something illegal. But didn't tell them.

Eastman is not on the Supreme Court. He doesn't get to decide what is legal or not. His job as a duly licensed attorney (bar certified) is to execute the legal path to victory for his client. That is the privilege that client's reserve and deserve. Eastman was thwarted by other cross-competing self-interests beyond his control. For that, he can be excused (pardoned).

So no one knows whether anything is illegal - especially an attorney - until the SC says so? Strange that that doesn't seem to be a defence against committing a crime.

You can go back to sleep now.

Eastman knew he would lose at the US Supreme Court.

He knew he didn't want to give K. Harris the power he was trying to give Pence.

People paying attention the hearings know Eastman knew what he was doing was not consistent with the law and he was trying to overturn the will of people through their votes.

This was clearly an attempt to attack democracy.

If Pence did go along, we would have been a gigantic constitution crisis.

I go with the "narrative" of the facts. Jan 6 was an insurrection. It doesn't take the Senate hearings to know that but simply to have seen events unfold that day. Your narrative, explaining why you believe Republican voters are indifferent to Jan 6, only reinforces the obvious - they believe the Big Lie and don't care about the assault committed on their democracy.

As international surveys have shown, America is now regarded as a dysfunctional democracy. The Economist has said that the Republican Party is no longer right-wing - it is a "far right" party equivalent to those in Europe that are anti-democratic. That's where your loyal Republican voters are happily marching.

You mis-characterise it. Jan 6 was not "a few radical people"; it was orchestrated by the Party's leader and remains supported by the majority of Republicans still, who do not accept that it was an attempted coup. The movement of Hispanic voters to the GOP reinforces that; they do not care that the party they are attaching to is selling a lie about the election and mounted an insurrection which it continues to justify.

Who are you, some Loudermilker groupie? You wear the same socks he does? He needs a lawyer to get him out of this nasalbash. If you want to lead rioters around a building, maybe do it where they aren't going to get shined on camera, huh? Jesus Christ.

Interesting, I have seen zero of this and don’t need to.

I have watched our federal, state and local governments ignore the rule of law for half a decade now. this is just another example of a big nothing burger when it comes to the rule of law.

They won’t prove anything to blame Trump on. There was more planning by the Anti Trump crowd then pro Trump.

The person that shot and killed someone has never been brought to justice.

the rest is a Kabuki Theater

If you actually believe this, I think you should watch the hearings

You are continuing to characterize an entire group of voters based on the actions of a few. Should I characterize the actions of the Democratic Party by a guy who showed up to a congressional softball game and started shouting Republican lawmakers? Or how about by the one guy who showed up to assassinate a conservative Supreme Court justice because he got his feelings hurt by a leak?

i don’t do that because I have the ability to think critically. Seems like you should try it.

and the US isn’t a “democracy”, it’s a constitutional republic. Sounds like the people who voted it as a “dysfunctional democracy” need to study up.

A democracy is "a government of the people, chosen by the people, for the people". I doubt that Lincoln saw a constitutional republic as being a different system of government. If the US is not a democracy it is on the road to tyranny - as Lincoln also knew.

Your depicting Jan 6 as an aberration committed by an unrepresentative few is completely false. They were actions instigated, encouraged and subsequently endorsed by their leader on the basis of the lies he fed his supporters and to which his Party's representatives have joined in lock-step to virtually every man and woman.

Pence was "insubordinate to the chain of command". Pence adhered to his constitutional obligations. But he didn't kow-tow to a glorified Mob boss seeking to overthrow the rule of law.

In a common democracy the majority rules. Not so in the US. That’s a pretty significant detail you’re missing. It’s why it’s so hard to make changes to the constitution so that 51% of the people can’t just bully the 49%.

in the grand scheme of a major political party, yes it was a few. And your claim that everyone who supports or is part of the GOP supports the insurrection is just laughable. Governor Brian Kemp was challenged in a primary by David Perdue, a Trump backed candidate. Perdue ran on a “kemp didn’t stop the steal” platform. Kemp beat Perdue by over 40 points.

How does that happen if allllll the GOP are in lock step with January 6th? Really, explain it to me. You can’t, because it isn’t true. You’re just using broad brush strokes because it’s easier to assume everyone you disagree with is evil. like i said, I don’t judge an entire voter base or political party on the violence portrayed during the BLM protests or when a psycho shoots up a congressional softball event. I can think through things rather than just label everyone evil or bigoted. You obviously can’t.

If the majority of Dem politicians and their voters had stated that the guy doing the shooting was right then maybe you'd have a point but they didn't and you don't.

The issue is less the insurrection and more the attempt to reverse the election but you're just too brain dead to see this.

I honestly don’t think a “majority” of GOP voters and politicians agree with the actions on January 6th. Where do you get that idea. Most I’ve seen condemn the actions but also think that these hearings are obviously political theater. So, you want to judge an entire party based on the actions of a few, why shouldn’t I do the same for other political parties? You’re “majority” argument isn’t based on reality.

I don’t think all Republicans agree with what happened with Trump trying to overturn the election.

something like 1/3 will not find fault with anything Trump did or does. they are cult members. they will say no one cares about Trump’s attack on democracy. They think trump made a big perfect call.

something like 1/3 don’t follow the news much and don’t like Biden. If they watch the hearings they might see what was going on and see Trump and his inner circle were at minimum morally guilty of trying to commit criminal conspiracy to obstruct Congress and defraud the United States even if Trump may not be criminally charged. if they listen to anything news related, they may only listen to right wing radio and never watch the hearing and what has been presented. they will say inflation, crt, crime, border issues, trans issues, are more important than the hearing because trump will not be criminally charged the hearings are a nothing burger.

about 1/3 of Republicans see Trump for what he is and they are losing their party. Conservatives who respect the rule of law like Cheney are being pushed out to make room for people people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Gohmert and others. they understand that democracy is fragile. they expect an orderly transition of power.

In other words, you don't want to know what's revealed at the hearing because you are afraid it contradicts with your fragile belief.