agip wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://www.westernjournal.com/biden-describes-filibuster-jim-crow-relic-side-used-last-year-report/what would you call a bunch of mostly Southern conservatives trying to reduce the number of black people who vote? I mean what's a better term than Jim Crow?
What are the items that will reduce the number of legal black voters in Georgia?
agip wrote:
Looks like Gaetz wants to move up the GOP ladder into show business.
There is no higher calling for a trumpist than making the libs cry on the teevee . It's the holy grail.
https://www.axios.com/matt-gaetz-retirement-congress-newsmax-e1a0e6bb-0279-4e97-ab22-508e28f4347a.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=politics-breaking
He's a permanent lying guest on NM, no surprise
Not all areas are the same wrote:
agip wrote:
what would you call a bunch of mostly Southern conservatives trying to reduce the number of black people who vote? I mean what's a better term than Jim Crow?
What are the items that will reduce the number of legal black voters in Georgia?
Cant hand out water!!!111!!! Ahhhhhhhbhh!!!1.1!! That’s the end of democracy. Lol
don't forget wrote:
Conservatives can not help it. Research shows that being conservative and having low intelligence makes them prejudice.
https://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
"People who give in to racism and prejudice"... so we have proof at least 74 million voters are low IQ. Yup.
In last year's general election, a record 1.3 million Georgians -- or more than a quarter of the 2020 electorate -- voted absentee amid the coronavirus pandemic. And a greater share of Black Georgians than White residents cast their ballots remotely.
In all, about 200,000 Georgians lack a driver's license or state identification card..., - The New Georgia Project, Black Voters Matter Fund and Rise, Inc. -- argues that Black voters are less likely than other voters to have the identification now required.
An analysis of data collected by Georgia Public Broadcasting and ProPublica found a significant disparity in who had to wait the longest: The average wait time after the 7 p.m. scheduled poll-closing time was 51 minutes in polling places that were 90% or more non-White. But it was just six minutes in polling places where 90% of the voters were White.
Previously Georgia voters could cast provisional ballots if they showed up at the wrong precinct, and their votes still would count once the board of elections determined that they had cast their ballots in the right county.
The new law tosses out all out-of-precinct votes cast before 5 p.m.
The lawsuit brought by the voting rights groups argues that Black voters are more likely than White voters to move frequently. As a result, they are more likely to change precincts and show up at the wrong one on Election Day, activists argue.
Fulton County, where roughly 45% of the population is African American, bought RV-sized mobile voting units to encourage early voting and reduce long lines on Election Day.
The law now bans their use.
he law now requires officials to house drop boxes for absentee ballots inside early voting locations, which limits their usefulness. The law also specifies that early voting hours must run from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., but it gives county registrars the flexibility to extend hours to 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.
Voting advocates argue that Black voters are more likely to work multiple jobs than Georgians of other races and limiting their access to drop boxes closes off yet another avenue to the franchise.
The law says any Georgian can challenge the voting eligibility of an unlimited number of voters. Activists say this will make it to easier for conservative groups to attempt to purge large groups of Black voters or others they think will support Democrats.
The NAACP Legal Defense Fund argues it could lead to "unchecked voter intimidation."
Attempts to challenge voters' eligibility are not new. Ahead of January US Senate runoffs, Texas-based conservative organization True the Vote paired up with the Georgia Republican Party and tried to challenge more than 360,000 Georgia voters that it said may have changed addresses. Most counties declined to take up the matter.
Georgia's law adds a new provision that allows the State Elections Board to sanction counties that refuse to comply with the provision allowing unlimited challenges.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/georgia-voting-law-black-voters/index.html
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
So the name of the cartoon should be, "Lies, Damn lies, and statistics"?
sorta...sure yeah but to me it's more 'beware big macro theses backed by studies of massively complex economic and social systems. All such studies are flawed.'
I mean we can't even measure inflation correctly, so virtually every metric based on dollars over time is fatally flawed. Income, costs, inequality, everything,
And since we can't really know the effect of immigration policy, we need to set policy based on moral principles.
If you are a Bible-believing Christian then you are strongly pro-immigrant. Most other ethical systems would value immigrants as well.
If you are heartless and selfish then maybe you decide based on whether or no you think you might benefit financially from immigration.
agip wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://www.westernjournal.com/biden-describes-filibuster-jim-crow-relic-side-used-last-year-report/what would you call a bunch of mostly Southern conservatives trying to reduce the number of black people who vote? I mean what's a better term than Jim Crow?
Fascist.
Not all areas are the same wrote:
agip wrote:
what would you call a bunch of mostly Southern conservatives trying to reduce the number of black people who vote? I mean what's a better term than Jim Crow?
What are the items that will reduce the number of legal black voters in Georgia?
Agip (she/her transgender democrat) has heard no water allowed to be given and nothing more.
Hambo wrote:
Not all areas are the same wrote:
What are the items that will reduce the number of legal black voters in Georgia?
Cant hand out water!!!111!!! Ahhhhhhhbhh!!!1.1!! That’s the end of democracy. Lol
It may not be, but it pushes it closer to the edge of the cliff. This minor change may translate to thousands of people who had trouble standing in line for 5 hours under previous voter suppression rules, and now may opt out as the line conditions just became more difficult. You know most of those voters are likely to be minorities based on the counties they live in, and of course they are likely to vote democrat. To summarize, Rs only want to limit democracy and have no short term incentive to help more people vote. In a state like GA, the GOP is effectively preventing a close result in Dems' favor.
Trollminator wrote:
Hambo wrote:
Cant hand out water!!!111!!! Ahhhhhhhbhh!!!1.1!! That’s the end of democracy. Lol
It may not be, but it pushes it closer to the edge of the cliff. This minor change may translate to thousands of people who had trouble standing in line for 5 hours under previous voter suppression rules, and now may opt out as the line conditions just became more difficult. You know most of those voters are likely to be minorities based on the counties they live in, and of course they are likely to vote democrat. To summarize, Rs only want to limit democracy and have no short term incentive to help more people vote. In a state like GA, the GOP is effectively preventing a close result in Dems' favor.
If you actually read the bill you will learn that water can be given out. In short, you are clueless, again!
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://www.westernjournal.com/biden-describes-filibuster-jim-crow-relic-side-used-last-year-report/
Abolishing the filibuster is not only quickly becoming the D's only way to prevent R's obstruction and further destruction of our democracy, it is going to plunge trump lovers into a whole new depth of despair. There is no justification for an ever shrinking minority to have so much representative power in government. It is simply anti-democratic.
The passing of a federal voting rights law will be very very ugly for trumpers... if you don't like me on the thread now it will be impossible to tune in then.
Not all areas are the same wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
It may not be, but it pushes it closer to the edge of the cliff. This minor change may translate to thousands of people who had trouble standing in line for 5 hours under previous voter suppression rules, and now may opt out as the line conditions just became more difficult. You know most of those voters are likely to be minorities based on the counties they live in, and of course they are likely to vote democrat. To summarize, Rs only want to limit democracy and have no short term incentive to help more people vote. In a state like GA, the GOP is effectively preventing a close result in Dems' favor.
If you actually read the bill you will learn that water can be given out. In short, you are clueless, again!
Stop trump lover. It does not in any way guarantee self-service water. The whole thing is just designed to suppress votes.
I guess one could get around the rule by selling water and food for 1 penny, assuming engaging voters in business while they wait to vote is allowed.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Exa0IYfWEAgEO7H?format=jpg&name=largeTo give you all an appreciation for just how absurdly far the GOP has gone with this, water could be given out only if if done more than 150 feet away from the furthest edge of the polling building, and at least 25 feet away from voters who are standing in line. They literally carved out as much as they could without directly infringing on other rights. Without question they are looking for small D voter decreases across the board.
Trollminator wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://www.westernjournal.com/biden-describes-filibuster-jim-crow-relic-side-used-last-year-report/Abolishing the filibuster is not only quickly becoming the D's only way to prevent R's obstruction and further destruction of our democracy, it is going to plunge trump lovers into a whole new depth of despair. There is no justification for an ever shrinking minority to have so much representative power in government. It is simply anti-democratic.
The passing of a federal voting rights law will be very very ugly for trumpers... if you don't like me on the thread now it will be impossible to tune in then.
For the filibuster to be an effective governing tool, both sides must agree to use it judiciously. I don't see a situation where that will ever happen again.
The best argument for ditching the filibuster now is simply that if Democrats don't do it then Republicans will as soon as they get the chance.
Monkeys Skyping wrote:
CountChocula wrote:
. . . Do you blame them for not releasing the Phase 3 data? In the trial in Brazil, Sinovac showed 50.38% effectiveness (keep in mind that 50% is the treshold to be considered a vaccine, because if you are below 50% that means more people in the vaccine group tested positive than in the placebo group). . . .
50% effectiveness means that there are half as many cases in the vaccine group as the control group. Annual flu vaccines are typically in the 40 to 60% effectiveness range.
Looking back at the data (copied straight from the Pfizer study) I realize that I did confuse efficacy with effectiveness, but that does not change the methodology:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577Using data from Table 2 in the linked paper, 9 subjects in the vaccine group tested positive for coronavirus and 169 subjects in the placebo group tested positive for coronavirus.
9/(9+169) = 5.06% (the chart says 94.6% efficacy and I admit that I don't understand the slight difference).
If I'm wrong I'll gladly admit to being wrong, as it would make me feel better about those vaccines, but my understanding is that 50% efficacy means 50% of positive cases came from the vaccine group.
Effectiveness is measured in the real-world setting instead of a controlled trial, and it's usually lower. So perhaps that is the reason that flu vaccines are a lower effectiveness.
Coyotes are getting rich due to Biden.
Trollminator wrote:
Not all areas are the same wrote:
If you actually read the bill you will learn that water can be given out. In short, you are clueless, again!
Stop trump lover. It does not in any way guarantee self-service water. The whole thing is just designed to suppress votes.
I guess one could get around the rule by selling water and food for 1 penny, assuming engaging voters in business while they wait to vote is allowed.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Exa0IYfWEAgEO7H?format=jpg&name=largeTo give you all an appreciation for just how absurdly far the GOP has gone with this, water could be given out only if if done more than 150 feet away from the furthest edge of the polling building, and at least 25 feet away from voters who are standing in line. They literally carved out as much as they could without directly infringing on other rights. Without question they are looking for small D voter decreases across the board.
Under the new Georgia law, it is illegal to even give my own mother a drink of water while waiting to vote.
When you make it illegal to give a thirsty person a drink, it becomes pretty obvious that you are dealing with lawmakers who are evil.
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Coyotes are getting rich due to Biden.
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/latino/jorge-bonilla/2021/03/28/coyotes-univision-business-booming-due-biden-benefit
I'm getting rich due to Biden too.
Fat hurts wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Stop trump lover. It does not in any way guarantee self-service water. The whole thing is just designed to suppress votes.
I guess one could get around the rule by selling water and food for 1 penny, assuming engaging voters in business while they wait to vote is allowed.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Exa0IYfWEAgEO7H?format=jpg&name=largeTo give you all an appreciation for just how absurdly far the GOP has gone with this, water could be given out only if if done more than 150 feet away from the furthest edge of the polling building, and at least 25 feet away from voters who are standing in line. They literally carved out as much as they could without directly infringing on other rights. Without question they are looking for small D voter decreases across the board.
Under the new Georgia law, it is illegal to even give my own mother a drink of water while waiting to vote.
When you make it illegal to give a thirsty person a drink, it becomes pretty obvious that you are dealing with lawmakers who are evil.
It has become pretty obvious that you’re an idiot.
The law does not prohibit anyone from giving a person something to drink. People who are waiting in line are free to walk a mere 25 feet to have someone give them a drink.
You’re too stupid to understand that though.
Democrats used the filibuster 300 times last year and now it's a Jim Crow relic.
How stupid do you have to be to believe this?
Hambo wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Under the new Georgia law, it is illegal to even give my own mother a drink of water while waiting to vote.
When you make it illegal to give a thirsty person a drink, it becomes pretty obvious that you are dealing with lawmakers who are evil.
It has become pretty obvious that you’re an idiot.
The law does not prohibit anyone from giving a person something to drink. People who are waiting in line are free to walk a mere 25 feet to have someone give them a drink.
You’re too stupid to understand that though.
That is called a restriction. It says you cannot be given water within 25 feet of the line. In other words, it is ILLEGAL to be given water while in line. If you are 25 feet away from the line you are not in line. That exact distance was inserted for a reason. Put your third tier school education to work for once.