Walmsley Making UTMB and Interval Session

One thing I don't understand about JM is his physical appearance. Is it just me or does it appear that he has lost like 20 lbs in a few months?

I love that this thread has 3x more activity AFTER UTMB finishes. Classic LetsRun...

No big Walmsley fan wrote:

he still annoys the heck out of me.

Try seeing a therapist.

You're easily annoyed wrote:

No big Walmsley fan wrote:

he still annoys the heck out of me.

Try seeing a therapist.

I just made an appointment.

Stra wrote:

Rushing the pace at the start then waiting other people to come... Hilarious.

Killian has done that every year at Hardrock.

"Jim looked very calm and confident-he made sure to chew his food slowly as Francois came in and to stare him down."

I would never want to be associated with any sort of "race" in which a tactic of food chewing is taken seriously. Can you imagine Kipchoge saying "Well ay 21 miles into Berlin I knew blowing a bubble with the 7 pieces of Bubble Yum I had been working for a couple miles would psych out the Ethiopians..."

Obviously stuff like this are just a long painful power hikes, not foot races.

Aside from his inability to correctly find the pace for 100 milers, his salient characteristic is his bouncy stride. Seems like a deal-breaker for courses like UTMB. What makes Jim so interesting and frustrating is his talent seems substantial, yet he eschews coaching or outside input. Kind of an ultra version of Ryan Hall.

Hdhdjdjd wrote:

Is any idiot in his camp willing to suggest that guy bounces more than a miler when he runs. Way too much vertical oscillation even for a marathoner much less 100miler. Might be a reason why he gets pounded on the mountains. Needs a true little shuffle.

No big Walmsley fan wrote:

You're easily annoyed wrote:

Try seeing a therapist.

I just made an appointment.

William Knilley wrote:

Obviously stuff like this are just a long painful power hikes, not foot races.

Hiking is not on foot?

From the dictionary:

Definition of footrace

: a race run by humans on foot

For every foot race the winner is the one who gets to the finish line first on foot.

100 meters you sprint all out the whole way. 10k you have to pace yourself. A marathon is (relatively speaking) a jog where most take water and nutrition (Bill Rodgers famously walked through the water stops while winning the Boston Marathon). A 100 mile ultra in the mountains you have to hike some and eat and pee and stuff.

At what distance exactly does it stop being a foot race?

The comment was obviously playing the situation up. 4+ hour races are just as legitimate as any of the track events. I would argue that they are more legitimate than at least a couple of the track events since the track events all test similar energy systems but NONE of them test the long distance energy system.I'm sorry that you're so uninformed.

William Knilley wrote:

"Jim looked very calm and confident-he made sure to chew his food slowly as Francois came in and to stare him down."

I would never want to be associated with any sort of "race" in which a tactic of food chewing is taken seriously. Can you imagine Kipchoge saying "Well ay 21 miles into Berlin I knew blowing a bubble with the 7 pieces of Bubble Yum I had been working for a couple miles would psych out the Ethiopians..."

Obviously stuff like this are just a long painful power hikes, not foot races.

WHY IS THIS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL SECTION

Your ignorance is refreshing.. wrote:

Stra wrote:

Rushing the pace at the start then waiting other people to come... Hilarious.

Killian has done that every year at Hardrock.

This is not true. Killian has never rushed the pace at Hardrock. He has waited for others at aid stations because he was tired of running alone. But that's not because he "rushed the pace." He was just that much faster than everyone else.

Everything over 5k tests the long distance energy system lol

That's why it's 98-99% AEROBIC.

There is NO track event less relevant than ultras bc ultras have ZERO competition. Remember that walmsley couldn't hack it at marathon so loved up- you never see the reverse from an ultra lol.

bkrunner wrote:

Killian has never rushed the pace at Hardrock. He has waited for others at aid stations because he was tired of running alone. But that's not because he "rushed the pace." He was just that much faster than everyone else.

Hdhdjdjd wrote:

Everything over 5k tests the long distance energy system lol

That's why it's 98-99% AEROBIC.

There is NO track event less relevant than ultras bc ultras have ZERO competition. Remember that walmsley couldn't hack it at marathon so loved up- you never see the reverse from an ultra lol.

WRONG. Of course competition is low, but every event has to start somewhere.

Competition is low, but there's always the stopwatch. Yannis Kouros' records still stand.

Btw, that's the greatest ultra runner of all time, not Kilian or any other.

A lot could be learned from Kouros' training and how it went against the current paradigm in ultra running: never did training runs over 12 miles.

You know how stupid you sound saying "pacing" for a 100-miler in the mountains, right?

Walmsley's 5th place after basically just bonking from not eating shows me he's he's a legit 100 miler. If he didn't already prove it being an hour under record pace and getting lost at 90 miles at western states, this seals the deal. This UTMB was also significant in that its the first time I ever seen Kilian Jornet struggle legitimately from the race competition of such a long race, not some easily explained miscellaneous ultrarunning reason like gastro problems or overheating. It might be that Walmsley's early pace did him in.

Hdhdjdjd wrote:

Remember that walmsley couldn't hack it at marathon so loved up- you never see the reverse from an ultra lol.

Walmsley can't hack it at ultras either.

Unless it's a training run.