Talkin' HEPS XC, 2009!

predictions for regionals? did columbia pull princeton's old trick of peaking for heps, or can they get it done when it counts? will princeton perform now that they have a fire under their asses? can brown have 3 guys advance to nationals? what other individuals have a shot?

pwnt? wrote:

where do you go? community college?

ivy brat

looking ahead wrote:

predictions for regionals? did columbia pull princeton's old trick of peaking for heps, or can they get it done when it counts? will princeton perform now that they have a fire under their asses? can brown have 3 guys advance to nationals? what other individuals have a shot?

Chenoweth can qualify. Perhaps Edelman (Cornell) as well.

As for the women, I think there is a chance that the Harvard women could send one to two runners (Richardson and/or Silva). Drouin and Quinn from Columbia have good chances to qualify as well. Princeton would definitely qualify unless they all come down with swine flu or something horribly unexpected, but I think they will be the only Ivy women team qualifying for nationals.

With the way Providence ran at their conference meet, anyone think Columbia could potentially take them down at regionals? Could this get Columbia to nationals?

Do the Princeton men have any chance at making nationals as a team?

So who do we have to kill (or threaten to kill) to get the tie-break rule changed? Had Princeton and Columbia tied for xc that would be on thing, but imagine if Princeton and Cornell were to tie for one of the track titles. There would likely be riots. Changing this rule is a matter of preserving public security.

Princeton and Brown tied for Outdoor Heps in 1998. It may have been related to the fact that it was 45 and pouring rain, and that everyone just wanted to go home, but there were no riots. (Incidentally the men's meet was decided by only 2 points . . .)

[quote]odds wrote:

With the way Providence ran at their conference meet, anyone think Columbia could potentially take them down at regionals? Could this get Columbia to nationals?

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I'm pretty sure they are in different regions. For Columbia to advance from regionals, they would probably need to beat Iona and Providence.

In the Northeast Region, Columbia will have to beat Iona, Syracuse, and Providence.

Princeton is ranked 3rd in the Mid-Atlantic Region behind Georgetown and Villanova.

There will be a great women's race between Villanova, Princeton, and West Virginia (as well as Penn State who really put it together at Big Ten's).

Yeah...gotta wonder how Penn could go from 3rd in xc one year, to two abysmal last place finishes in the past two years...also they've been blanked in the distance events indoors and outdoors since he took over. Meanwhile Steve Walsh is building his legacy at Providence. Is Charlie grooming Bonnette to be an eventual replacement? I certainly hope not based on these recent results. It's nice to see Robin Martin coming to meets, does he have a role there now?

Kme wrote:

In the Northeast Region, Columbia will have to beat Iona, Syracuse, and Providence.

Princeton is ranked 3rd in the Mid-Atlantic Region behind Georgetown and Villanova.

There will be a great women's race between Villanova, Princeton, and West Virginia (as well as Penn State who really put it together at Big Ten's).

Columbia's better chance is probably to hope that Princeton qualifies at regionals and pick up at large points by virtue of the Heps win.

The Mid-Atlantic women's Regionals will be insane, 4 teams from the National top 10!

The only chance Columbia legitimately has is to beat either Iona Syracuse or Providence. All three teams have enough points that if Columbia takes down any one of them they could quite possibly be one of the first teams pushed in. Princeton making it and getting Columbia a point is both unlikely and may not even be enough to push them in anyways.

Based on Kolas, it looks like if Princeton got an auto, Columbia would be the third team out (they would move past Lamar on head-to-head to tie for #32 with A&M, but Princeton advancing would bump them back to tie for #33 so they'd be out), so unless something strange happens with blocking in another region (or not so strange, ex. S. Illinois beats Tulsa in the MW, then neither Tulsa nor Minnesota would advance and Columbia could get in finishing 4th behind Syracuse-Iona-Providence even if Princeton didn't get an auto) if

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they would make Nationals, but if

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it would be beyond their control, but they might make nationals pending other region's results.

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Some real nice race footage, interviews, and award footage here :

http://www.sportingnewsct.com/content/view/2819/255/

Turn the Player on, choose the on-demand function, and then scroll down for the IVY LEAGUE coverage. Both Men's and Women's are buried on the player.

There's a good article on the main Letsrun.com page today with Liz Costello answering questions. I didn't realize the Heps course this past year was 20m short of a real 5K.

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I heard there was fight between Cornell and Columbia after regionals??? any idea what happened?

Congrats to the following Ivy Leaguers in qualifying to Nationals this year:

Princeton women

Dan Chenoweth (H)

Nate Edelmen (Cornell)

Christain Escareno (B)

Rob Speare (Pr)

Kaitlyn Kuzmuk (H)

Claire Richardson (H)

I think that next year, the Harvard women could make it to Nationals as a team. Sammy Silva was just outside of qualifying (she's a freshman) and as a team they came 5th. They're not losing anyone to graduation either, so they could be stronger next year if Saresky can get in some more good recruits and everyone stays healthy.