Multiple shot at Dallas ICE facility attack

Why do Mexicans drink their beer warm? They are avoiding/anti-ICE.

But, but, the Epstein Files!

With all due respect, you need to consider the source. Ken Klippenstein is an online agent provocateur. I’m not saying he’s wrong here, I will not read his substack, but that’s like bringing an Alex Jones link to the thread.

Since you won't read it, I'll give you the gist: shooter was a "nihilistic edge Lord who has visited 4Chan." That website has 25 million unique visitors per month, including those nihilitistic edgelords at the FBI and other less impressive law enforcement agencies.

Also, "anti-ICE" could mean a lot of things. One of them, of course, given the context, is that the shooter actually *was* anti-ICE...but, for the sake of argument, let's set that aside.

All arguments here are pointless when we use logic like this...and every single one of us uses logic like this (start with your conclusion, dismiss possible contradictions, buttress evidence that proves your claim in light of the dismissal, and...Bingo! Things are exactly as I see them!!!) If we has the capacity for true reason, we would save our breath.

I normally don't read those types of sub stacks but did read the above and the comments afterward. This comment is on point:

"Nihilistic alienated young men now re-direct from schoolchildren to political or politically adjacent targets. The "left" and the internet will be blamed, not guns or alienating society."

what a junk article

I understand and agree. I’m not lazy, I’ve just been burned by that guy before. He did this EXACT same thing with the Kirk shooter and it turned out wrong and oddly curated. He gets a ton of readers because he feeds the left red meat and I used to read it.

I agree with your post, FWIW.

I also think we need to look deeper into this phenomenon. I’m not sure these “friends and acquaintances” being interviewed post-event are always good actors. I think a lot of them are continuing the ruse/joke for lulls. When you’re dealing with nihilists, nothings off the table.

That was my only point.

I never called you lazy. We can dig deeper on the "friends and acquantainces" angle. He "spoke" to them, but did so on the condition of anonymity. That means there is no way to independently verify their friendship, or draw their very likely political motivations into question.

Remember the age before the Internet when an axe murderer was discovered in a quiet neighborhood? Media outlets would consistently interview neighbors who were stunned to find that the guy (sorry Lizzie Borden, it was also a guy) used an axe to murder someone to death. The most common comment was "he was quiet and kept to himself." Yeah...probably because of the axe-murdering!

Sounds like this loser should be on a watch list.

It is totally a coincidence that these young men all spout Democrat slogans and loathe religion... like democrats...

Klippenstein is not a journalist he's ideologue and a fool.

Yes! I do remember (still happens on local news channels after crimes). I guess what has changed is that now these independent journalists like KK are interviewing online connections - so Discord and TikTok followers/groups, etc. - and those kinds of connections are much less likely to be honest and forthright. Heck, they are probably harboring the same opinions and motivations, hence my comment about continuing the “joke.”

To go back to the “they’ll blame it on the internet” comment above, I think that’s accurate. We’re dealing with a situation where people think that complicity in a horrible crime isn’t real because they’re only talking about it over Xbox.

It’s been brought up before in recent days: I think we should look at repealing Section 230. It’s completely anachronistic in today’s online environment. I DO understand the free speech arguments, but free speech never meant a person could open a forum for people to discuss assassination plots without recourse. We need to tamper down this nihilism and rampant hopelessness among terminally online people (men). Maybe repealing S230 will help eliminate the doomscrolling and apathy? I think it could.

Back to work for me, but I appreciate your thoughts and discussion. Thank you.

(note: had to change my name)

lol the delusion of the article is so unbearable. Opposed to looking at direct messages from the beast himself , you take word from friends that knew him “I never thought he would be that guy”. Well guess what nobody usually thinks a family or friend is mentally ill about to prepare a terrorist attack. The denial , deception , and finger pointing from left wing is absurd

lol. Absolutely desperate for the shooter to be a “democrat”. Maybe find something better to do with your day.

Another day goes by, another lunatic dem shooting someone and killing themselves because they don't like something.

Why are left wingers and democrats trying to hard to not make this guy what he was? He was a far left mentally ill terrorist who decided to shoot up an ice van. In his final moment of life he killed himself thinking he got two government officials. It’s that simple, just say he’s a degenerate , he’s a terrorist , we condemn this, he’s not one of us.

Yep. Totally insane to think people that repeat the exact same messages as democrat leaders are aligned with the democrat party.

Maybe dont be a moron.

They cant. They agree with him.

He is one of them.

If this incompetent moron had succeeded in killing ICE agents tens of thousands of democrats would have been on BlueSky and Tik Tok celebrating the dead "fascists" just like they did with Kirk.

This is who the Democrats are now.

Lot of assumptions here.

Far left?

Mentally ill?

Terrorist?

Thought he killed a government official?

How do you know this? You've drawn four conclusions from what?