looks like letsrun discussion is may pay dividends for justice. people involved read such things. these kind of discussions played a part in overturning Magnus Carlsen being expelled for "belligerent" behavior, for wearing jeans at the world blitz champs. where the boards put forth pretty much the whole debacle with pro examination.
in the morning it was sorted.
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here
near the start, my post, saying wrong dude meets wrong cops, was down voted like 10 to 1
then subsequent posts upvoted like 20 to 1
meanwhile the narrative turned, where Kerley may be let off, and the police may be let off,
with appropriate diplomacy.
the cops DEFINITELY dont want to continue down the path to convict an olympic athlete, and in the case of the united states, it is important to note that Kerley is black, and politically there is no bigger NONO.
ok Kerley's side, and it doesn't appear so, if he has an open and shut case against the cops, and there is a sizable check in it, why not sue?
we'll see of cooler heads come together and ... water under the bridge.
Simple solution - do as the police say & there'll be no issues
That's not a difficult thing to do.
Do what they say if either of these things is true:
1) It's a lawful order...and you'd better be sure about what is and what isn't.
2) They have a gun pointed at you and you are risking your life just to be right.
Also, if you KNOW it is an unlawful order (like they are going to arrest you for something you are allowed to do), comply, let them arrest you, and then, if they violated your Constitutional rights, their qualified immunity is gone, and you can sue them (even though the city or org they work for will likely pay), they will lose their jobs, etc. If I were in that situation, I would calmly warn them that they will lose their qualified immunity and that I will sue them before I would then turn around and let them handcuff me. I would definitely sue too, not because I need the money, but there is FAR TOO MUCH police misconduct (even if it's just due to ignorance) that this would need to happen.
"Rewatching the video multiple times, and it doesn't get any easier to look at. The police should never have ended that situation that way. Even if Kerley should not have been as frustrated as he was = he was not the aggressor, and he didn't throw punches. He didn't cause any pain/harm to any officer, and yet he was the one who is getting charged for exactly what the cops did to him. They are not excused in their actions. Not all cops are bad. But cops like these showcase the worse qualities of cops: headstrong, brash, and overly physical. It happens all the time, only this time it happened to a celebrity. To look at that and call Kerley the thug is the clear-as-day example of modern-day racism. You won't say the n-word, but you will see people as less than human. No excusing that, even if you don't like how they interview. Whatever."
You are very clear and exact in what you are saying. The police are all tuned up over New Orleans and should be rightfully so, but you don't go grabbing and shoving a man, because like a robot or a trained dog he doesn't do instantly and exactly what you say. They don't actually care about "de-escalation" and chilling out the situation, that would make their job boring and uneventful, they want a gladiator match to prove their worth to their peers. You bet there's racist motivations here - They saw he was big, fit, strong and confident - They don't like that in a "Black Man" and want to put 'Bo' back in his place! I'm so sick of this infantile Jim Crow $hit - Most REAL Officers are way, way, way better than this!!! There are 1000 things that they could have said differently to him to clam the situations.... but NOPE deliberately didn't. Punching him while he was down, was so cheap ass, truly weak and absurd and exactly what's wrong with the "Blue Stripe mentality."
In this police statement about the incident, the police do not come off well. Their own statement makes it seem like they needlessly escalated a situation to violence and made a criminal out of a man walking to his car. As far as Fred Kerley’s conduct, I’m going to wait to hear his side of the story.
I have family members in law enforcement and they are for the most part very stubborn people. In their world they are always right. These guys egos get in their way and rarely cut breaks. They hate being challenged so yes Kerley could have approach this differently but some people here pretend that cops don't do anything wrong. Cops seem to almost always lack deescalating skills.
replace the word cops with school teachers and it still makes perfect sense.
Bringing in yet another article. This one with details of his court hearing today. It makes no mention of the new domestic violence or robbery charges, but does note that the battery on a police officer charge is a felony, while the others are misdemeanors.
“This seems like a total misunderstanding,” Sanford said. “Mr. Kerley is a record-breaking athlete. He has served in the Olympics for the United States track and field (team). He is a model citizen in our community. This is nothing more than an overreaction by the police.”
So was Oscar Pistorius. I guess he should have been let go, too. After all, he's an Olympian!
His attorney says that he “served” in the Olympics? As if he joined the military and went to war for America? That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever ever heard.
“This seems like a total misunderstanding,” Sanford said. “Mr. Kerley is a record-breaking athlete. He has served in the Olympics for the United States track and field (team). He is a model citizen in our community. This is nothing more than an overreaction by the police.”
So was Oscar Pistorius. I guess he should have been let go, too. After all, he's an Olympian!
His attorney says that he “served” in the Olympics? As if he joined the military and went to war for America? That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever ever heard.
Sadly you don’t know what the word “served” means, but his lawyer does. Please get some education.