January 6 Hearing

The polls wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Yet, despite your massaging of statistics the country remains significantly more literate than yours. Jan 6 is the most compelling evidence yet of the continuing descent into falsehood, lies, ignorance and violence in the US. But you'd rather avoid talking about that, notwithstanding the subject of the thread.

The issue is that most people are aware of January 6th and agree that it was embarrassing. It’s attempting to used as voter fodder for the Democratic Party ahead of midterms. People cared about this over a year ago, now not so much. The people who do care about it now already have their political loyalties in place: the hardcore trump fans will continue to hold their position and the hardcore left would never vote for the republicans anyway.

I’ve said it before and it holds true…people care about their ever increasing grocery bill, energy bill, and inability to fill their gas tanks due to rising gas costs. Even the leak of roe v wade possibly being overturned didn’t get the needle moving for the dems, and it’s because people are suffering financially and the blame gets to be laid at the feet of the party in power…the democrats.

other piece of all this is that is also seems they are worried about trump running again in 24 and the dems really don’t have anyone they can run against him. The Democratic Party bench is very weak and Biden isn’t a valid option in 24. Kamala Harris isn’t either. Who else is there? Bernie or warren?

I’m right down the middle politically and this January 6th deal doesn’t move the needle for me, and most of the people I know, in terms of voting choices. It honestly doesn’t even rank in the top 5 of pressing issues I consider when voting.

Troothsayer... wrote:

Ex L wrote:

You are not right down the middle politically if January 6th doesn’t move you.

Many Republicans and conservatives were very disturbed on how that day played out and Trump’s role in leading a hugely unethical attempt to hold onto power he rightfully lost.

You can’t shrug at that.
You either believe in consequences for wrongful actions or you didn’t see that as wrong.
If you didn’t see that as wrong, you hoped it would have worked.

As far as the economy, wages are up and unemployment is down at the moment.
Those are two big factors of how the economy is viewed.
Yes, inflation is up and that’s because people have money and demand is up.

Tougher immigration has kept the US from having enough low wage workers to keep supply up with demand.

Yeah, January 6th should move you, but Seattle was taken over and held down by the Left Wing Loonies for 2 months and 1 day. Didn't bother you or move you, eh? Another Bias LW Nutjob who says "yeah, you're deflecting---look squirrel!" You morons are so biased you can't see anything but January 6th, how convenient...but you're all honest folks, eh?

The snippet from the article below means nothing, but January 6th!!!!

At least 25 people were KILLED during the riots in several cities. ALL BUT 1, I repeat, all but 1, were killed by fellow civilians. Oh no, don't talk about that, we're talking about January 6th, look over there!!!!! You libbys are so biased that we need a new word for it, bias isn't strong enough.

*******There has been a great deal of civil unrest in the United States. In 2020, demonstrations across the country were organized by an activist movement called Antifa. The Antifa movement has been a powerful force in the United States and displayed its power when it recently took control of major segments of cities like Seattle and Washington DC as “Autonomous Zones”. These zones are “cop-free” and are being policed by Antifa organizations.
These demonstrations quickly turned into riots, burning thousands of police vehicles across the country in major US cities like New York, Atlanta, Chicago, and Los Angeles. These riots and how they are described in the media will only hurt officers in the long run and strengthen ANTIFAs mission.

More Than 2000 Officers Injured in Summer's Protests and Riots

Troothsayer... wrote:

Ex L wrote:

You are not right down the middle politically if January 6th doesn’t move you.

Many Republicans and conservatives were very disturbed on how that day played out and Trump’s role in leading a hugely unethical attempt to hold onto power he rightfully lost.

You can’t shrug at that.
You either believe in consequences for wrongful actions or you didn’t see that as wrong.
If you didn’t see that as wrong, you hoped it would have worked.

As far as the economy, wages are up and unemployment is down at the moment.
Those are two big factors of how the economy is viewed.
Yes, inflation is up and that’s because people have money and demand is up.

Tougher immigration has kept the US from having enough low wage workers to keep supply up with demand.

Yeah, January 6th should move you, but Seattle was taken over and held down by the Left Wing Loonies for 2 months and 1 day. Didn't bother you or move you, eh? Another Bias LW Nutjob who says "yeah, you're deflecting---look squirrel!" You morons are so biased you can't see anything but January 6th, how convenient...but you're all honest folks, eh?

The snippet from the article below means nothing, but January 6th!!!!

At least 25 people were KILLED during the riots in several cities. ALL BUT 1, I repeat, all but 1, were killed by fellow civilians. Oh no, don't talk about that, we're talking about January 6th, look over there!!!!! You libbys are so biased that we need a new word for it, bias isn't strong enough.

*******There has been a great deal of civil unrest in the United States. In 2020, demonstrations across the country were organized by an activist movement called Antifa. The Antifa movement has been a powerful force in the United States and displayed its power when it recently took control of major segments of cities like Seattle and Washington DC as “Autonomous Zones”. These zones are “cop-free” and are being policed by Antifa organizations.
These demonstrations quickly turned into riots, burning thousands of police vehicles across the country in major US cities like New York, Atlanta, Chicago, and Los Angeles. These riots and how they are described in the media will only hurt officers in the long run and strengthen ANTIFAs mission.

More Than 2000 Officers Injured in Summer's Protests and Riots

Ronald Dump wrote:

The polls wrote:

The issue is that most people are aware of January 6th and agree that it was embarrassing. It’s attempting to used as voter fodder for the Democratic Party ahead of midterms. People cared about this over a year ago, now not so much. The people who do care about it now already have their political loyalties in place: the hardcore trump fans will continue to hold their position and the hardcore left would never vote for the republicans anyway.

I’ve said it before and it holds true…people care about their ever increasing grocery bill, energy bill, and inability to fill their gas tanks due to rising gas costs. Even the leak of roe v wade possibly being overturned didn’t get the needle moving for the dems, and it’s because people are suffering financially and the blame gets to be laid at the feet of the party in power…the democrats.

other piece of all this is that is also seems they are worried about trump running again in 24 and the dems really don’t have anyone they can run against him. The Democratic Party bench is very weak and Biden isn’t a valid option in 24. Kamala Harris isn’t either. Who else is there? Bernie or warren?

I’m right down the middle politically and this January 6th deal doesn’t move the needle for me, and most of the people I know, in terms of voting choices. It honestly doesn’t even rank in the top 5 of pressing issues I consider when voting.

So if they guy the committee says did all of what they say he did ends up on the ballot, then he's your guy?

2:18 at the casino and way off the grid... wrote:

Troothsayer... wrote:

Yeah, January 6th should move you, but Seattle was taken over and held down by the Left Wing Loonies for 2 months and 1 day. Didn't bother you or move you, eh? Another Bias LW Nutjob who says "yeah, you're deflecting---look squirrel!" You morons are so biased you can't see anything but January 6th, how convenient...but you're all honest folks, eh?

The snippet from the article below means nothing, but January 6th!!!!

At least 25 people were KILLED during the riots in several cities. ALL BUT 1, I repeat, all but 1, were killed by fellow civilians. Oh no, don't talk about that, we're talking about January 6th, look over there!!!!! You libbys are so biased that we need a new word for it, bias isn't strong enough.

*******There has been a great deal of civil unrest in the United States. In 2020, demonstrations across the country were organized by an activist movement called Antifa. The Antifa movement has been a powerful force in the United States and displayed its power when it recently took control of major segments of cities like Seattle and Washington DC as “Autonomous Zones”. These zones are “cop-free” and are being policed by Antifa organizations.
These demonstrations quickly turned into riots, burning thousands of police vehicles across the country in major US cities like New York, Atlanta, Chicago, and Los Angeles. These riots and how they are described in the media will only hurt officers in the long run and strengthen ANTIFAs mission.

More Than 2000 Officers Injured in Summer's Protests and Riots

Would it kill you to stay on the thread topic? It's about January 6th and only January 6th.

The polls wrote:

Ex L wrote:

You are not right down the middle politically if January 6th doesn’t move you.

Many Republicans and conservatives were very disturbed on how that day played out and Trump’s role in leading a hugely unethical attempt to hold onto power he rightfully lost.

You can’t shrug at that.
You either believe in consequences for wrongful actions or you didn’t see that as wrong.
If you didn’t see that as wrong, you hoped it would have worked.

As far as the economy, wages are up and unemployment is down at the moment.
Those are two big factors of how the economy is viewed.
Yes, inflation is up and that’s because people have money and demand is up.

Tougher immigration has kept the US from having enough low wage workers to keep supply up with demand.

Dude, did you not read the first sentence? Problem is that a lot of time has gone by and more pressing matters are going to affect the polls, not this January 6th theater. I understand people are really into this and that’s fine for them. But most people are over it. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t a pathetic display, but time has passed and people are in bad shape due to current issues.

joedlrtt wrote:

Ronald Dump wrote:

So if they guy the committee says did all of what they say he did ends up on the ballot, then he's your guy?

First, this is a spectacle with no due process. One side of an issue with, in some cases, intentional misinformation. Do I like Trump? Not really. Do I think there are better candidates on the Republican side? Sure. If I am given the choice between Trump and whomever the Democrats put on the ticket, I still vote for Trump, even if he orchestrated the whole thing. Because Trump is less of a threat to our nation and world than the Democrats and their neo-Keynesian economic theories. The suffering and death due to the Democrats failed leadership over the past 18 months is far more worrisome than a single protest gone awry. This, like the Supreme Court leak, is just another desperate attempt to deflect from the policy failures of the Democrats.

dafuq wrote:

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

That quote was from two days ago, before the footage I linked to was released. Contrary to this statement, the "tourists" were, in fact, shown two separate tunnels that led to the Capitol and were taking pictures of security checkpoints and stairwells. Who takes pictures of security checkpoints? Who comes to DC to tour service tunnels in office buildings rather than the Capitol building itself? This is objectively suspicious behavior and Republicans said explicitly that there were no tours given on January 5, especially ones that included people with M.A.G.A. hats. We've got suspicious behavior coupled with an attempt to cover up the suspicious behavior. Smoke, fire.

Yes, no evidence that Trump was involved in the insurrection, other than the fact that he convened it, his friends helped pay to shuttle people up there, he riled the crowd up before hand, he wanted to participate in march, he didn't lift a finger to protect Congress/his VP when his minions were sacking the Capitol, and he told all the rioters that he loved them afterwards. Oh, and his good buddy Roger Stone was paying the Oathkeepers (several of whom have been arrested on seditious conspiracy charges) to provide "security" and was paling around with them on Jan. 5.

The quote from the police chief was about the video footage (which was obtained from the capitol police), none of which shows them in service tunnels. He literally said there was no footage of the group inside any service tunnels, which he pointed out are guarded and not publicly accessible. Since you claim to know more about what happened that day, you should probably call the capitol police chief and fill him in. We believe in you!

The polls wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

People aren't "over it", as you claim. Jan 6 was the product of lies that the Republican Party still adheres to, which is that the election was stolen. The perpetrator remains the front runner for the Republicans. Jan 6 was a direct assault on your democracy - which separates it from most other Western democracies. If people are "over it" they are "over" living in a democracy.

I guess we will see come November, but some recent special elections in Texas prove I’m right. Republicans flipped a 150 year old democratic strong hold. If people truly cared about January 6th still, I doubt that we would have seen such a strong flip in the voting trend.

the theater of the January 6th hearings is an obvious attempt to paint all republicans in a bad light in the run up to the midterms. I’m not a Nostradamus but I can tell you it’s not going to work. We are already seeing that in these special elections.

I know people are passionate about this stuff, but don’t let being a partisan ruin your ability to see things objectively.

Armstronglivs wrote:

The polls wrote:

I guess we will see come November, but some recent special elections in Texas prove I’m right. Republicans flipped a 150 year old democratic strong hold. If people truly cared about January 6th still, I doubt that we would have seen such a strong flip in the voting trend.

the theater of the January 6th hearings is an obvious attempt to paint all republicans in a bad light in the run up to the midterms. I’m not a Nostradamus but I can tell you it’s not going to work. We are already seeing that in these special elections.

I know people are passionate about this stuff, but don’t let being a partisan ruin your ability to see things objectively.

What you're effectively saying is that Republican voters are still going with the lies. In every sense, the Republican Party has become an anti-democratic party. If they don't care about Jan 6 its supporters are happy with that.

Troothsayer... wrote:

Ex L wrote:

You are not right down the middle politically if January 6th doesn’t move you.

Many Republicans and conservatives were very disturbed on how that day played out and Trump’s role in leading a hugely unethical attempt to hold onto power he rightfully lost.

You can’t shrug at that.
You either believe in consequences for wrongful actions or you didn’t see that as wrong.
If you didn’t see that as wrong, you hoped it would have worked.

As far as the economy, wages are up and unemployment is down at the moment.
Those are two big factors of how the economy is viewed.
Yes, inflation is up and that’s because people have money and demand is up.

Tougher immigration has kept the US from having enough low wage workers to keep supply up with demand.

Yeah, January 6th should move you, but Seattle was taken over and held down by the Left Wing Loonies for 2 months and 1 day. Didn't bother you or move you, eh? Another Bias LW Nutjob who says "yeah, you're deflecting---look squirrel!" You morons are so biased you can't see anything but January 6th, how convenient...but you're all honest folks, eh?

The snippet from the article below means nothing, but January 6th!!!!

At least 25 people were KILLED during the riots in several cities. ALL BUT 1, I repeat, all but 1, were killed by fellow civilians. Oh no, don't talk about that, we're talking about January 6th, look over there!!!!! You libbys are so biased that we need a new word for it, bias isn't strong enough.

*******There has been a great deal of civil unrest in the United States. In 2020, demonstrations across the country were organized by an activist movement called Antifa. The Antifa movement has been a powerful force in the United States and displayed its power when it recently took control of major segments of cities like Seattle and Washington DC as “Autonomous Zones”. These zones are “cop-free” and are being policed by Antifa organizations.
These demonstrations quickly turned into riots, burning thousands of police vehicles across the country in major US cities like New York, Atlanta, Chicago, and Los Angeles. These riots and how they are described in the media will only hurt officers in the long run and strengthen ANTIFAs mission.

More Than 2000 Officers Injured in Summer's Protests and Riots

The polls wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

What you're effectively saying is that Republican voters are still going with the lies. In every sense, the Republican Party has become an anti-democratic party. If they don't care about Jan 6 its supporters are happy with that.

No, but I see that you’ve taken the narrative of the hearings hook, line and sinker. This is the goal of the hearings, to pain anyone who supports the Republican Party as anti-democracy. People with critical thinking skills can see this and understand that isn’t true.

What the special election proves in Texas is that a Republican running on border control and in direct opposition to the current Democratic Party agenda can win against a Democratic Party candidate in a district that has been, for the past 150 years, a Democratic strong hold.

it says Hispanic voters are moving to the GOP, regardless of what the January 6th committee messaging is. You can either choose to recognize that and accept it or keep your blinders on and continue with the dogma that republicans are anti-democracy. Just know that you’re in the minority, even if you think you’re in the majority. Objectivity, it’s key.

2:18 at the casino and way off the grid... wrote:

The polls wrote:

No, but I see that you’ve taken the narrative of the hearings hook, line and sinker. This is the goal of the hearings, to pain anyone who supports the Republican Party as anti-democracy. People with critical thinking skills can see this and understand that isn’t true.

What the special election proves in Texas is that a Republican running on border control and in direct opposition to the current Democratic Party agenda can win against a Democratic Party candidate in a district that has been, for the past 150 years, a Democratic strong hold.

it says Hispanic voters are moving to the GOP, regardless of what the January 6th committee messaging is. You can either choose to recognize that and accept it or keep your blinders on and continue with the dogma that republicans are anti-democracy. Just know that you’re in the minority, even if you think you’re in the majority. Objectivity, it’s key.

Relax on this one. She narrowly won an election for a vacant seat that a huge amount of red state money was thrown at. The libs are not even going to mention all the voter fraud on this one because they are going to win this one back in less than 6 months easily.