imo the guy was kinda cringe, but molly seidel had an UNFATHOMABLE amount of cringe in this situation. honestly my biggest problem was her response wasn't even funny, like it was just straight up a boring response a girl with no brain/social prowess would give you (yet the guy also didn't have a bunch of intelligence)guy 2molly 0
thats just my opinion tho, don't necessarily have to subscribe to it
I couldn't beat top D3 guys, but I could beat some D3 guys.
underestimating D3 wrote:
appleapple wrote:
some D3 guy I could run circles around.
If you’re a woman who could beat D3 guys, we’d have heard of you.
Probably not even medium D3 guys. But I matched with at least two D3 runners who I was faster than in our events, which they never even considered as a possibility.
actuallyagreewithLRCforone wrote:
Unrelated but someone called me fragile for unfollowing her. I generally have been uncomfortable hanging out with people who talk behind others back and people who have to put others down to feel good about themselves. That is me. I follow pro runners and other endurance athletes because I love running and like to learn. I'm thankful many are willing to share their stories. I don't have to follow if the person doesn't fit into 'what I care to see/hear', she's not my lifelong friend and she won't miss me. I wish her the best. Just sharing an opinion on an open forum.
This thread has really gone off the rails. I think a lot of women would benefit from having a brother or a son and a lot of men would benefit from having a sister or a daughter. Drives me crazy that it has to be such insane interaction.
That was probably me. I can kinda see where you are coming from but you came here to complain about her post and had to throw in that you unfollowed her because of it. That seems like some straight fragility to me, just as much as all the triggered men in here defending this bumble guy. Her post was 'talking about him behind his back' 'putting him down to make her self feel good' ok, talk about reading a bit too much into a post just meant to be funny. I mean, I hear where you're are coming from. We all follow people for different reasons. Personally this actually made me follow her. Refreshing to follow a pro runner that is not pandering to me with another motivational positive post every post. I've been running longer than a lot of these people have been alive, I dont need to follow them for their running advice or their overly positive bs. But coming here to tell everyone I started following her for this post was certainly not the first thing on my mind.
appleapple wrote:
Probably not even medium D3 guys. But I matched with at least two D3 runners who I was faster than in our events, which they never even considered as a possibility.
post PRs, or slightly obfuscated PRs. i'm honestly curious. i consider myself to have been extremely mediocre in d3 but my times would've at least been in the mix at nationals for d1 women, especially in my era. 4:11 1500, 9:01 3000. the guys you matched with were truly delusional if they were that slow.
The thing is that Molly wasn't joking around. She came down pretty harsh on the guy when she could have just shrugged it off. Gentler ways to ground the conversation. Didn't look like she was too interested anyway. The text ratio was not in the guy's favor. Pair her response with the picture of her looking exasperated. The post was along the lines of "oh my god, these microagressions are killing me". If this is an example of toxic masculinity, then we've got bigger fish to fry.
runnereunner22 wrote:
Tony Hawk can post about this stuff every damn day on twitter and it's so hilarious. But if Molly makes two posts MONTHS apart (and the airplane guy wasn't even a flirting situation) then it's attention seeking and over done?
This is why she has 207k insta followers: fellow women and non crazy men love her and find her relatable.
And these responses in this thread are why 207k women and non crazy men found her post relatable and hilarious when she pokes fun at it: cause we're all used to and dealing with men like the men in this thread
The difference with Tony Hawk is that he's unfailingly gracious and funny about it.
Molly would be within her rights to take exception to the unimaginative joke qua joke. But, it's evident from the emoji at the end of the guy's question/joke that he knows she's faster than he is. I sympathize, though, because I can remember being thin-skinned about strangers appreciating my ability when I was young and fast. When you're in competitive mode it can be difficult to act out of generosity as a first impulse, or so it seemed in my case.
NavidsonRecord wrote:
Molly should just date someone she already knows in real life. Joe is hot. He's married but Emma is hot too. So it's kinda like a two for one. A hot husband and a hot sister-wife. It's been, what, 10 years since HBOs hit TVshow Big Love? The people are starved for non-monogomous love stories.
Honestly, Molly and Emma could probably have multiple husbands. Like, the men have to be loyal to them but they can just marry whoever they want to. I'd marry them even if it meant having to share them with brother-husbands.
I kid, I kid. My ancestors were Mormon polygamists so I'm allowed to joke about polygamy.
In the USA we have de facto polygamy. A man can father children with multiple women, he will be legally financially responsible for the support of both the woman and the child. The only difference is that he can only call one his wife, but financially and ethically he has the same obligations and duties.
Sleazy Letsrunner with Game wrote:
Joking or not that guy was a moron. You don’t start off getting to know someone with an insult. Be nice and friendly.
Therein lies a the problem - we have VERY different understandings of the word "insult."
The winking emoji implies he was trying to be nice and friendly with a (crappy) light hearted joke. Sheesh! Lighten up Francis as the old timers say.
Del Preston wrote:
The thing is that Molly wasn't joking around. She came down pretty harsh on the guy when she could have just shrugged it off. Gentler ways to ground the conversation. Didn't look like she was too interested anyway. The text ratio was not in the guy's favor. Pair her response with the picture of her looking exasperated. The post was along the lines of "oh my god, these microagressions are killing me". If this is an example of toxic masculinity, then we've got bigger fish to fry.
She made public a private conversation. She is so thirsty for publicity it's crazy. Don't forget about me today!
Del Preston wrote:
The thing is that Molly wasn't joking around. She came down pretty harsh on the guy when she could have just shrugged it off. Gentler ways to ground the conversation. Didn't look like she was too interested anyway. The text ratio was not in the guy's favor. Pair her response with the picture of her looking exasperated. The post was along the lines of "oh my god, these microagressions are killing me". If this is an example of toxic masculinity, then we've got bigger fish to fry.
I think the general points made by some of the women on LRC actually may be right long-term (some guys are bros and can come on too strong with dumb pickup lines) but Molly, as much as of an awesome runner as she is, seems to have a chip on her shoulder and a slight sense of entitlement.
AP5000 wrote:
Del Preston wrote:
The thing is that Molly wasn't joking around. She came down pretty harsh on the guy when she could have just shrugged it off. Gentler ways to ground the conversation. Didn't look like she was too interested anyway. The text ratio was not in the guy's favor. Pair her response with the picture of her looking exasperated. The post was along the lines of "oh my god, these microagressions are killing me". If this is an example of toxic masculinity, then we've got bigger fish to fry.
She made public a private conversation. She is so thirsty for publicity it's crazy. Don't forget about me today!
This; if she has a background in social media or did communications as her major, she may know that being talked about (good or bad) gets her clicks. She probably will mention it on the next Citius or flotrack podcast.
Just a fine point - polyandry is alive and well in many parts of the world. Generally, I think its harder for women to play the role of deadbeat.
jecht wrote:Molly, as much as of an awesome runner as she is, seems to have a chip on her shoulder and a slight sense of entitlement.
Comes from having to work hard for success and inabilty to capitalize on her looks.
Basically living a life of a man, but not taking it too well...
yooooooo wrote:
Twelve pages long?
This thread is Twelve. Pages. Long???
You know there are actual things happening in the running world right now. It's not like Shelby-tests-positive-before-the-trials busy but, there's enough to think on then a jokey instagram post about online dating...
I perused through some of it and man, ya'll are really really mad. Over an instagram post. An instagram post!
If you don't like her my god, don't follow her. If you think she's a "skeleton with a man's face" well I'm sure there are other things to look at on the interwebs. If you think she's a narcissist because she made an instagram post, then you need to read more.
Yall are even getting your knickers in a bunch about how fast her mile time is? Really? When was the last time she raced the mile? She's a marathoner. She won an Olympic medal. Being proud of that doesn't make you a narcissist...
You guys have GOT to get a grip. Really. For your sakes as well as all of ours. You need to ask yourself why this post upsets you so much. What insecurity does it tap into that makes you lash out in such a bizarre way? You're not going to date Molly. Many of you claim to be married. Many of you openly talk about how unattractive you think she is. So why on EARTH does a joke a runner makes on instagram make you feel all these weird feelings? You could just keep scrolling.
You know the things that us women have to deal with on this site alone?
Middle aged men talking about high school girls going through puberty, talking about how they gained weight and got "pudgy" even though they are running as well as they ever have. Mary Cain talks about how when she was twelve, people on these boards were speculating that she was a boy. Leah Falland has a bit to contribute on the subject.
I've seen some of the worst descriptions of women on here that make "skeleton with a man's face" seem like a compliment
And yet when we raise our voices about it WE'RE being sensitive?
Here are some things to consider.
Molly is a good runner. She's a professional runner. She's an Olympic medalist. Using her high school times to somehow distort the fact that she's really good at running shows a level of insecurity I didn't think possible...
I don't know her, but narcissists are not anyone you think show's a bit of self indulgence or selfishness once in a while. There's a whole lot. more to being a narcissist than that. I'm not saying Molly even did that, but calling someone a narcissist or a sociopath is such a go-to these days on all sides of the spectrum it's just getting old and annoying.
When you attack her looks after she made a joke, it just says so much more about how weak and insecure you are. Again, you do not have to find her attractive or want to date her. But ask yourself, why on earth did that joke make you, presumably happily married men, so angry that you feel the need to come on here and write this about her?
She made sure the individual was anonymous. But none of your name calling is anonymous. Keep that in mind the next time you want to call someone a narcissist.
You can ALWAYS keep scrolling. You don't have to find her jokes funny. But if you don't usually the normal person thing to do is to.......keep scrolling.
Well done. There's a Grateful Dead line: "You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know". Pity the little boys who don't grow up.
As she has stated in her most recent IG post, "enough of this dating app nonsense"
how is an anonymized convo making something private, public? Have you ever repeated something funny someone said to you?
Lol you losers are still crying about her post? Hilarious.
i love how this thread has turned into an analysis of the caliber of this guys joke.
Point taken. I just looked it up and it's actually been 16 years since Big Love was on the air. What a wild show that was but very interesting. It'd make for a really good reality show. Like Nascar meets Marathon Training. Where all the husbands are working as a team to help her keep being awesome.
She's got a physical therapist husband, a massuese husband, a coach husband, a nutritionist husband, a chef husband, a driver husband, a therapist husband(who doesn't need a therapist), a husband who just cleans and does laundry, and then a trophy husband or two. How many husbands is that?? 9 or so? She needs at least 12. 12 is a pretty good number that's how many husbands Jesus had.
This thread is so crazy so I thought I'd up the ante.
All hail the Molly Seidel Matriarchy.