Passant wrote:
https://i.ibb.co/3yVWXBp/01.jpg
katir and pogacar both got that good recovery on their side and NOTHING else
LRC note: This thread was deletd by a volunteer mod in 2023 but now given the fact that Katir has been suspended we have re-instated it.
Passant wrote:
https://i.ibb.co/3yVWXBp/01.jpg
katir and pogacar both got that good recovery on their side and NOTHING else
Phil Ken Sebben wrote:
What do you guys know about his agent Miguel Mostaza Martinez? Which coach/group is Katir with?
I found this Spanish opinion piece from 2013. The Google translation is ridiculous though. Maybe somebody can translate the gist of it more clearly?
A shame of athletics
Miguel Ángel Mostaza is a character in athletics. He has been president for as long as Odriozola. He started as a physical therapist, and when he saw that our English athletes, nothing, his eyes were opened. At that time - in the 1980s - González began to be paid to run abroad, and it was very good for him to have someone accompany him. If, in addition to giving him massages, he was a translator, the better. Mustard became his inseparable companion. And something else: he managed his contracts, he looked for careers, in a word, he acted as his representative. And he became an agent. He became so powerful that he was only capable of organizing a track meet. It currently has the representation of 82 Spanish athletes.
Elbendir is no longer among them. Years ago it stopped interesting. Not so Bezabeh, who after serving his doping sanction can now run, and Mustard continues to be his representative. Go this to place Mustard, the man who launched himself for the As.tv camera when he recorded him while Elbendir claimed debts from years ago, and whose aggressiveness infected his companions, who threw themselves to shake and immobilize the athlete, who remained impassive and stunned at the scene. The scandalous images are sure to help someone address Elbendir's claims once and for all. Too bad the price is going to be so expensive. Mustard is part of Spanish athletics, and what a place it is!
How is the man recovering from national record races one after the other?
The Monaco --> Gateshead turnaround was no problem either for McSweyn or Grace.
It appears that Katir's manager has had at least two athletes involved in doping scandals, Alemayehu Bezabeh, the Egyptian born Spanish 5000m record holder was arrested as part of Operation Galgo, but the Spanish athletics federation decided there was insufficient evidence that he doped. And Mohamed Marhoum, like Katir a Moroccan born Spaniard who was European cross country champion and suspended for doping. He also managed Cacho, who we learned earlier this year from his coach that he was doped for the Barcelona Olympics. And here is what Katir's manager has to say on the subject of whether convicted dopers should be banned for life.
After being sanctioned for two years, he was a silver medal at the World Cup in Paris. He even broke the Spanish marathon record in Hamburg with 2 hours, 6 minutes and 50 seconds. But that has been almost ten years in which society changed and hardened penalties.Miguel Ángel Mostaza , the reference manager of Spanish athletics, accepts that this question is no longer the same. "But what I continue to deny despite is that there is no life after doping," he rebutted. " How can there not be? It would be wrong . I think we all have the right to make mistakes, a second, a third and even a fourth chance. If there were no forgiveness, we would go crazy. Who does not have something to regret a misfortune? "
Yes, the manager of Katir has publicly stated that dopers can be caught four times and still should be given another chance to compete!
https://www.publico.es/deportes/vida-despues-del-dopaje-al.htmlDQ wrote:
National record runs. 4:27 doesn't quite stretch to 4:16. Stewy ran his 2nd best, doesn't have a 1250 in the legs this summer.
I mean McSweyn was barely off (less than a second) and the pace was worse than in his NR from last year (4:59.47 then vs. 5:03.74 today). Today's effort with a 2:25.2 last K might even have been stronger. The 12:50 legs? A 5k race 1 month before doesn't bury an elite athlete like that.
Number 12 wrote:
Phil Ken Sebben wrote:
What do you guys know about his agent Miguel Mostaza Martinez? Which coach/group is Katir with?
I found this Spanish opinion piece from 2013. The Google translation is ridiculous though. Maybe somebody can translate the gist of it more clearly?
https://as.com/opinion/2013/07/29/portada/1375051379_154312.htmlA shame of athletics
Miguel Ángel Mostaza is a character in athletics. He has been president for as long as Odriozola. He started as a physical therapist, and when he saw that our English athletes, nothing, his eyes were opened. At that time - in the 1980s - González began to be paid to run abroad, and it was very good for him to have someone accompany him. If, in addition to giving him massages, he was a translator, the better. Mustard became his inseparable companion. And something else: he managed his contracts, he looked for careers, in a word, he acted as his representative. And he became an agent. He became so powerful that he was only capable of organizing a track meet. It currently has the representation of 82 Spanish athletes.
Elbendir is no longer among them. Years ago it stopped interesting. Not so Bezabeh, who after serving his doping sanction can now run, and Mustard continues to be his representative. Go this to place Mustard, the man who launched himself for the As.tv camera when he recorded him while Elbendir claimed debts from years ago, and whose aggressiveness infected his companions, who threw themselves to shake and immobilize the athlete, who remained impassive and stunned at the scene. The scandalous images are sure to help someone address Elbendir's claims once and for all. Too bad the price is going to be so expensive. Mustard is part of Spanish athletics, and what a place it is!
Ethiopian-turned-Spaniard Alemayehu Bezebeh-- caught carrying around his own blood-- had the same agent as Katir.
https://www.letsrun.com/2010/transfuse-1213.phpNumber 12 wrote:
He also managed Cacho, who we learned earlier this year from his coach that he was doped for the Barcelona Olympics.
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Nice work!
Number 12 wrote:
He also managed Cacho, who we learned earlier this year from his coach that he was doped for the Barcelona Olympics.
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(Fixed. I'm a sloppy moran.)
Can you show us first year elite sub-13 runners (1250) who banged out sub-330-730-1300 in the same season?
Ghost1 wrote:
https://www.europapress.es/deportes/noticia-mohamed-katir-logra-record-espana-3000-metros-semana-gloriosa-20210713222557.html
I'm not going to strain my limited Spanish to read some puff piece about this POS doper.
Translate it or GTFO.
DQ wrote:
Can you show us first year elite sub-13 runners (1250) who banged out sub-330-730-1300 in the same season?
Here is the complete list:
Does WADA still publish their testing records? Who got tested when and how often. I remember having this bookmarked some years ago but cannot find it on their site now.
Might be interesting to see how many times Katir was tested in 2020.
Phil Ken Sebben wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:
https://www.europapress.es/deportes/noticia-mohamed-katir-logra-record-espana-3000-metros-semana-gloriosa-20210713222557.htmlI'm not going to strain my limited Spanish to read some puff piece about this POS doper.
Translate it or GTFO.
Ghost1 is a good man. You are a turd.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/406/658/2d4.pngSemiler wrote:
DQ wrote:
Can you show us first year elite sub-13 runners (1250) who banged out sub-330-730-1300 in the same season?
Here is the complete list:
- everyone fooled by Katir's "charm"
DQ wrote:
Can you show us first year elite sub-13 runners (1250) who banged out sub-330-730-1300 in the same season?
I've said his progression is huge and worth scrutiny. I don't think running 3 fast races in a month-plus is the unbelievable part about it.
Number 12 wrote:
I found this Spanish opinion
You EPO theory is crumbling
Watch the spectacle...
ImpaIa31 wrote:
Phil Ken Sebben wrote:
I'm not going to strain my limited Spanish to read some puff piece about this POS doper.
Translate it or GTFO.
Ghost1 is a good man. You are a turd.
Oh? He seems sorta like a Katir apologist lately.
Here is the Google Translate of the article, whose site blocks the copy command, so I pulled it from source:
"The Spanish athlete Mohamed Katir has conquered a new Spanish record on Tuesday, the second in four days and the third in just a month, thanks to a time of 7: 27.64 that supersedes the current mark of Isaac Viciosa (7: 29.34). since 1998.
Katir, born in Morocco 23 years ago, shone again in the Diamond League, at the meeting held in Gateshead (England), showing that he arrives in Tokyo in the best possible shape and with morale through the roof.
He is the current national record holder of 1,500 meters - he beat Fermín Cacho's record last Friday - also in 3,000m, achieved this Tuesday, and in 5,000m, a record that he achieved on June 10. This will be the test in which he will compete in the upcoming Tokyo Games.
The runner based in Mula took the victory ahead of Australian Stewart McSweyn, second, and Andrew Butchart, who completed the podium. Also Spanish Fernando Carro and Sergio Jiménez finished in eleventh and thirteenth position, respectively.
The feat achieved this Tuesday by Katir makes him the fifth runner in history capable of holding the three Spanish records of 1,500, 3,000 and 5,000m after Pere Prat (1916), Juan Muguerza (1921-1924), Joaquim Miquel (1924 -1925) and José Luis González (1985-1993), as reported by the Royal Spanish Athletics Federation."
Great thanks for sharing!