I would very much appreciate if Rojo and Wejo, when this thing settles down a bit, publicly acknowledge that their reporting and discourse has not been the same with NOP and Houlihan and BTC.
They never gave NOP the benefit of the doubt, despite the fact that there was never an actual positive test result like there is now.
It hasn't been balanced and still isn't being covered objectively, so to read them admit that is so would go a long way for me as a daily visitor of their site.
Thanks.
Unsure, but leaning guilty...
Read her insta post and thought that maybe it was believable. but what's weird is her test was several hours after eating a burrito. she was eating a burrito in the first place? her improvements and final kicks in recent races are a tad suspicious if I'm being honest...
BanHammer wrote:
I very much respected their group but now what group is left to root for? Team boss? Tin-Dbags?
Collegians and Hobbs
Schumacher is done wrote:
Guilty and have also suspected since indoors 2020.
Ok I would like to amend my opinion after gathering more evidence.
Based on the evidence I would now say that I lean towards guilty but there is a reasonable possibility of innocence. So much so that I think WADA should drop the case. Unfortunately if this happens the micro dosers win again and the sport will be less clean as a result.
Avocado's Number wrote:
Yes. And though she's obviously very knowledgeable about the subject, my impression is that she has been invested in a certain position in these cases for a very long time. I just noticed, from the heading of a more recent thread, that she and her lab were involved here, which didn't surprise me. When I mentioned earlier that I wanted to see which lab and experts were involved in this case, I was most specifically interested in whether she and her lab were involved.
Yes certainly seems to be one of those experts who thinks if they change their mind it invalidates all their prior work.
Updating on new evidence is the hallmark of a good scientist, IMO.
This incident is a train wreck for the sport. Combines both the ineptitude of a governing body that never invested in technology and applying biological passports / testing program that’s doesn’t require athletes to abandon freedoms, legal due process, and question their career path.
Couple this with a desire of track or endurance athletes to burn careers at the stake based on one test… there is a reason “professional” sports don’t allow the regulators (both good and ill intentioned) to destroy their sport from the outside.
Running needs a stronger voice and this poll ain’t it.
Sadly, I have to vote guilty.
Update on nandrolone and norsteroids: how endogenous or xenobiotic are these substances?
V Bricout, F Wright - European journal of applied physiology, 2004 - Springer
For Le Bizec et al. (1999, 2002), although some edible
specialties (e.g. wild boar testicles) are indeed rich in
nandrolone and could lead to an increase in nandrolone
metabolites in urines after consumption, only unusual
quantities (100+ kg) would induce modification over
the IOC’s cut-off limit of 2 ng ml–1 urine.
She ran a 14:23 for 5000m. Come on. She’s cheating.
Admittedly, I would have believed her when I was younger and naive.
Very guilty. 100%. Can’t have that kind of progression without doping. Ban should be for life.
come on, seriously? wrote:
She ran a 14:23 for 5000m. Come on. She’s cheating.
Admittedly, I would have believed her when I was younger and naive.
Another one to keep a burrito eye on is a female who drops 20-30 secs off her 5K each race she runs this year after coming from obscurity before that with no past to speak of. Now contending for top 3. The truth will come out. Always does. Karma
round and round wrote:
I would very much appreciate if Rojo and Wejo, when this thing settles down a bit, publicly acknowledge that their reporting and discourse has not been the same with NOP and Houlihan and BTC.
They never gave NOP the benefit of the doubt, despite the fact that there was never an actual positive test result like there is now.
It hasn't been balanced and still isn't being covered objectively, so to read them admit that is so would go a long way for me as a daily visitor of their site.
Thanks.
This. +1
Where the f*ck is the poll?
Guilty
Polygraphs are hundred percent accurate! It's rock solid science!
It's all based on the science of the fact that a liar will perspire. A liar will always perspire. And quite often their pants will be on fire if you see someone's pants on fire, they are certainly lying
Polygraph testers are people who are trained to spot people with their pants on fire
The fact that there were no smoke alarms going off at the press conference was an excellent sign
Also guys whether it was 2.5 times or 5 times the legal limit
You have to understand that the legal limit is already artificially High to allow dietary sources
If you were 10% over the legal limit that would be a big deal, but maybe you could find an excuse and they might let you slide
To be 250% over a limit that is already artificially high is huge. It is astronomically improbable
If it's 500% over the limit, forget about it don't even get me started
Think of it like speeding! She basically got caught going 255 (because limit is a bit high) miles per hour! And is trying to claim that the speedometer was off and it felt like she was going about 65!
510mph if it was 5x the limit
Freedom is a path seldom walked by the multitudes wrote:
Think of it like speeding! She basically got caught going 255 (because limit is a bit high) miles per hour! And is trying to claim that the speedometer was off and it felt like she was going about 65!
510mph if it was 5x the limit
what car she has
Freedom is a path seldom walked by the multitudes wrote:
Also guys whether it was 2.5 times or 5 times the legal limit
You have to understand that the legal limit is already artificially High to allow dietary sources
This is the main reason I'm leaning guilty.
Leaning towards guilty. Occam's razor. Yet another elite athlete being caught taking PEDs seems more likely than the bizarre contaminated burrito alternative.
Besides, Scott Fauble would have tested positive many times by now if contaminated burritos were a thing.