You are ridiculous. I am not normalizing anything. Yes it happens everywhere and everywhere it is equally bad. It is not an excuse. Are you ready to say Americans, British, Germans, French ... invaded -...pick one...-, they are subhuman barbaric murderers, all many millions of them should be wiped from the face of earth? If you are not, then shut up about Russians, too.
Umm, you are trying to but can only seem to convince Carmine who is either you or Adult in the room. Only you know that.
Nope, I don’t think any innocent civilian should be raped and killed. Russia is busy doing that right now. I will not be quiet about it.
You can keep defending it to no fanfare.
The only ones defending war crimes here seems to be you and your cadre of Ukraine apologists, who see any and all inhumane actions are reasonable.
You do not need to execute bound prisoners, teens, to defend your country.
Seeing many unconfirmed reports that the Slava-Class Cruiser “Moskva” - flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet - was struck by two Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles off the coast of Odessa and is sinking with 500+ aboard.
Ukraine claimed Wednesday a navy missile battery struck the Moskva, the flagship of Russia's Black Sea fleet, off the coast of Odessa. On Thursday, the Russian government said the warship had sunk.
Seeing many unconfirmed reports that the Slava-Class Cruiser “Moskva” - flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet - was struck by two Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles off the coast of Odessa and is sinking with 500+ aboard.
More Ukrainian propaganda. The Moskva was simply recommissioned by Putin as a submarine.
Seeing many unconfirmed reports that the Slava-Class Cruiser “Moskva” - flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet - was struck by two Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles off the coast of Odessa and is sinking with 500+ aboard.
Let's hope it's true. Probably be a lot of dead Russian scumbags if so.
Why don't we bring up hypocrisy from whatever POS country you belong to? Why should you care about Middle Eastern lives when your country is or has killed people indiscriminently?
The subject is Russia / Ukraine. Are you too dumb to address the topic? I think you have already shown you are.
Your logic:
The US is killing people...therefore Russia should be allowed to kill people.
The argument is to point out hypocrisy, not to justify Russian killing.
Noting that is not "dumb".
Concern for civilians casualties is not borne from valuing human life when it is selective. It's posturing to reinforce bias and further agenda.
Otherwise, these same posters might rail against civilian death elsewhere on much larger scales. But they do not.
Apparently, Ukraine Lives Matter. Others not so much.
We are allowed to disagree with our government.
For example, I look back at history and I do not agree with the US dropping the bomb on Japan. I know many here would argue with me about that.
Nothing can ever justify doing that to children. Ever.
But this isn't the US / Japan thread, or the US / Israel thread. Is it? Yeah, I said you were smart at one point. I was very wrong about that. You only have one falicious argument. you have nothing else. Equating soldiers to children is not a good argument either.
You are not at all concerned about children anywhere. You have a very clear agenda. As an atheist I would think you would be the kind of person that would want to preserve life because you believe that is all there is. Right?
Again, this is the Russia / Ukraine thread. You guys should find another argument for killing people other than the whataboutism movement.
An Iowa man opposed to America giving military aid to Ukraine confronted Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) this week and spouted several pro-Putin conspiracy theories about the nature of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.In a video of a...
Only indirectly. The reports are saying that Ukraine’s homegrown Neptune misses were used. While they’ve had these all along it was only in small numbers so they were wisely being used sparingly. Now that they have something coming in to boost that capability they might’ve felt more comfortable letting a few fly at a high value target.
No, I am agreeing with you. Just like the Russians invading Italy in 1943.
Any thoughts on who destroyed the German Army?
The United States thru lend lease. Without our arsenal of democracy providing the UK and USSR without the goods needed to defeat the Nazis, Europe would look much different today. And not for the better. Study history. The USSR did not defeat the Nazis in a vacuum. Without American help the USSR wouldn't have lasted 2 years. The list is endless.
The United States delivered to the Soviet Union from October 1, 1941, to May 31, 1945 the following: 427,284 trucks, 13,303 combat vehicles, 35,170 motorcycles, 2,328 ordnance service vehicles, 2,670,371 tons of petroleum products (gasoline and oil) or 57.8 percent of the high-octane aviation fuel, 4,478,116 tons of foodstuffs (canned meats, sugar, flour, salt, etc.), 1,911 steam locomotives, 66 diesel locomotives, 9,920 flat cars, 1,000 dump cars, 120 tank cars, and 35 heavy machinery cars. Provided ordnance goods (ammunition, artillery shells, mines, assorted explosives) amounted to 53 percent of total domestic consumption. One item typical of many was a tire plant that was lifted bodily from the Ford Company's River Rouge Plant and transferred to the USSR. The 1947 money value of the supplies and services amounted to about $11 billion.
The above paragraph was from wiki. From memory, the US supplied the USSR 3 complete oil refineries.
Also, and as an aside, when the American army landed ashore on North Africa and were in control of their own space, Coke A Cola sent 2 bottling plants there to quench our soldiers thirst.
Seeing many unconfirmed reports that the Slava-Class Cruiser “Moskva” - flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet - was struck by two Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles off the coast of Odessa and is sinking with 500+ aboard.
Seeing many unconfirmed reports that the Slava-Class Cruiser “Moskva” - flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet - was struck by two Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles off the coast of Odessa and is sinking with 500+ aboard.
The unaccountable coterie of neocons and liberal interventionists who orchestrated two decades of military fiascos in the Middle East are now stoking a suicidal war with Russia. By Chris Hedges ScheerPost.com The same cabal o...
